Theoretically you can be friends with anyone if both parties are wise enough to accept discussion, have an open mind and remain civil despite differences.
Can You Be Friends with Leftists?
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So that’s a no then?
"It is wrong for believers to join with the wicked and profane...
The caution also extends to common conversation.
We should not join in friendship and acquaintance with wicked men and unbelievers.
Though we cannot wholly avoid seeing and hearing, and being with such, yet we should never choose them for friends.
We must not defile ourselves by converse with those who defile themselves with sin."
-Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
Within the men's forums, there are several threads dedicated to compiling needs and resources for those needs. I'd provide more information here, but I am still learning what is needed and what I and others must do. I would encourage you to most of all to not despair, and keep moving forward each day. Give yourself reasons to live, and then live well.
Great quote.
This extreme divide in the world nowadays is a problem.
Then I got out of bed the day after that and a German guy tells me with alarm "war has broken out in Europe". So I said I'd check the news, which I did. He asked me which news source I was checking and I said "Russia Today".
Well, you should have seen the instant rage which was triggered, it was beyond belief. Really there would be zero chance whatsoever of discussing anything calmly or rationally with someone in that state. I told him then I would check "Die Welt" as well just for comparison.
I am still friends with some leftists and now frequently drop right wing truth bombs in the middle of their monologues to keep it real but with some of them there is just no chance.
Exactly this happened to me in the last few days. I had been hanging out with a couple of European guys staying where I was staying a few nights in a row. One evening they talked politics all evening and I stayed silent, silently disagreeing with everything they said.. "if Zemmour gets in..", "if Le Pen gets in..", "these covid denying idiots". The next day I was in a really upset and bad mood all day as it had made my soul sick. I have posted about this before, that to live these kinds of lies rots a persons soul.
Then I got out of bed the day after that and a German guy tells me with alarm "war has broken out in Europe". So I said I'd check the news, which I did. He asked me which news source I was checking and I said "Russia Today".
Well, you should have seen the instant rage which was triggered, it was beyond belief. Really there would be zero chance whatsoever of discussing anything calmly or rationally with someone in that state. I told him then I would check "Die Welt" as well just for comparison.
I am still friends with some leftists and now frequently drop right wing truth bombs in the middle of their monologues to keep it real but with some of them there is just no chance.
Maybe as an acquaintance, but probably not as friends. This is an interesting thread. I never really had friends throughout my entire life. I moved around constantly (as a child and adult) and I never put down roots in a local area to make lifelong friends. As a result I became an introvert, loner, rootless nomad by default. This has lead to me being an observer of humans, cultures, and behaviors. I vibe well with non-Westerners, conservatives/right-wingers, and traditional Christians. I cannot really vibe at all or even relate with NPC leftists and globalist types. The gap between us and them is enormous.
Yes you can absolutely be friends depending on how personal that relationship maybe.
I'm friends with some leftists and have a lot of liberal acquaintances. The thing is you just got to respect and acknowledge their beliefs and don't talk about it. And if it do comes up, be polite and don't be a dick and skip on to the next topic.
I play pick up basketball with dudes with leftist views and we're not going to be arguing with each other over Trump and Biden because were there to play basketball and have fun. I know dudes who are poker buddies with people who have different political views I'm sure.
The way I see it, it can work out if you share some the same hobbies and commonalities and purpose, just like in the Military.
I'm friends with some leftists and have a lot of liberal acquaintances. The thing is you just got to respect and acknowledge their beliefs and don't talk about it. And if it do comes up, be polite and don't be a dick and skip on to the next topic.
I play pick up basketball with dudes with leftist views and we're not going to be arguing with each other over Trump and Biden because were there to play basketball and have fun. I know dudes who are poker buddies with people who have different political views I'm sure.
The way I see it, it can work out if you share some the same hobbies and commonalities and purpose, just like in the Military.
TheOnceAndFutureKing
Woodpecker
Not a lady here, but I thought the topic was interesting. I think theoretically its possible, but it really depends on how mature the person is.
I have a close friend who I've known since high school, hes a left leaning libertarian, and me and him still get along well and hang out every now and then. The few times we had political disagreements, he was always very cordial and refrained from the usual leftist tactics of speaking in talking points and hyperbole.
I had another friend who was a leftist, but of the more SJW woke communist type. He became insufferable and constantly took passive aggressive jabs towards right wingers and Christians in front of me which would always rope me into a stupid fight where he would rely on rhetoric and moving the goal posts to cope with the fact that he was too immature and under educated to defend his own arguments. I got tired of it after a while and just quietly drifted from him.
The other major difference between the two was the former friend had a more poor/humble upbringing while the latter was a spoiled brat who became a trust fund baby. I think these factors shaped their personalities which is why I think it varies from person to person.
I have a close friend who I've known since high school, hes a left leaning libertarian, and me and him still get along well and hang out every now and then. The few times we had political disagreements, he was always very cordial and refrained from the usual leftist tactics of speaking in talking points and hyperbole.
I had another friend who was a leftist, but of the more SJW woke communist type. He became insufferable and constantly took passive aggressive jabs towards right wingers and Christians in front of me which would always rope me into a stupid fight where he would rely on rhetoric and moving the goal posts to cope with the fact that he was too immature and under educated to defend his own arguments. I got tired of it after a while and just quietly drifted from him.
The other major difference between the two was the former friend had a more poor/humble upbringing while the latter was a spoiled brat who became a trust fund baby. I think these factors shaped their personalities which is why I think it varies from person to person.
I can't stand to hang around them long enough to get to the making friends part. Once I realize the leftward thinking, especially the hard left ones, I am repulsed and disengage quickly. I used to try to hang in there with hopes of getting through to someone, but over the years I've learned there's no penetrating such thick skulls. I've found so called conservatives, the GW Bush types, are just as bad with their covid/vaxx ideas.
The lack of observational skills, lack of discernment and blind obedience, on both sides, is truly sad. It's like the majority of people cannot function without something (earthly) to worship...?
The lack of observational skills, lack of discernment and blind obedience, on both sides, is truly sad. It's like the majority of people cannot function without something (earthly) to worship...?
The Catalyst
Ostrich
My leftist friends generally all block or disassociated with me eventually for one reason or another(generally, triggering, but sometimes triggered for non political reasons). I still have some though but it does seem to follow a pattern.
You know, that question actually reveals so much more than it seems to at first glance.
"You can be friends with leftists..." reveals that you know their views. Leftists love to talk about their views, and they'll air their mental dirty laundry as loudly as possible in their social circles. They're very shameless about plugging their views in as many conversations as they can.
"... but once they know your views..." reveals that just to be friends with leftists today requires maintaining a certain level of subterfuge so that they don't know you - the real you. How are you friends with someone that doesn't know what you're really like? How is that a functioning friendship?
"... will they be friends with you?" - to ask the question is to answer it. The answer is a resounding no.
The only leftist that I have any kind of relationship really is one of my brothers in law who is a pretty reasonable kind of person in general. However, I don't talk a lot about such things with him, what I have noticed is he has a real resistance to going deep about anything and generally just laughs at everything. I've come to see this kind of behavior as sinful and a result of his atheism. The only way to maintain an atheistic position is to hide from the truth really and I see his flippant attitude as his way of preventing himself from ever having to think deeply about anything. I still keep him in my prayers and have a cordial relationship with him but its not deep in any way so its not much of a relationship really. More an acquaintance kind of thing really.
The TRS boys called this “hiding your power level” years ago, as in you should be careful about who you reveal how based/red-pilled you are… Personally, I’ve actually found the massive failing of the Biden Administration has made it much easier to talk to liberals because everyone hates Biden (and Newsom) or can at least acknowledge the governments massive failings. They can see they got scammed. I live in California, even the liberals here are like “WTH is going on in the White House?” It’s created a great opportunity, in a round about kind of way.
When Trump was president, no one admitted that they voted for him out of fear. Now I see “Let’s Go Brandon” flags and bumper stickers regularly.
I've met communists in places like Macedonia who have been anti-vaccinations, anti-lockdowns, anti-gayness and more anti-immigration than most on the so called "extreme far-right" in Western/Northern Europe and they were orthodox Christians. They seemed to just have a romanticized view of Tito and that's basically why they believed in left-wing politics. In fact, I think I have far more in common with them than most right wing normies in the West.
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I've only known one leftist in the West who had no problem with my views (because, as Elipe said, usually it's them having a big problem with you having another opinion) but he had also become a millionaire through entrepreneurship and seem to just been stuck in the political views he was taught by his parents. He was an old school leftist and not one of them them degenerates celebrating trannies etc.
So it's possible depending on what type. But the modern SJW type of leftist? No, it will just be toxic to be around someone like that and be a negative influence.
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I've only known one leftist in the West who had no problem with my views (because, as Elipe said, usually it's them having a big problem with you having another opinion) but he had also become a millionaire through entrepreneurship and seem to just been stuck in the political views he was taught by his parents. He was an old school leftist and not one of them them degenerates celebrating trannies etc.
So it's possible depending on what type. But the modern SJW type of leftist? No, it will just be toxic to be around someone like that and be a negative influence.
Easy_C
Peacock
My general experience has been no to SJW's, because they tend to be toxic all around and not just in terms of political views. It's also become much less the case with boomer liberals because that type has been conditioned to view anyone not vaccinated as an immediate, grave threat.