Cancelling the nation of Russia

Sherman

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
One of the enduring themes of the democratic party and particularly the Hollywood branch has been their hatred of Joseph McCarthy. In the 1950s, Joseph McCarthy started an investigation of communist infiltration into the US government and cultural institutions. He ended up accusing anyone he didn’t like as being anti-American. The ironic thing is that the democratic party has now turned into the new “McCarthyism”. Anyone who shows any sympathy for Russia or Putin, is accused of being anti-American. Furthermore, the democrats are going even further than McCarthy. They are censoring and removing websites showing the Russian point of view and are committing economic warfare against anything Russian. McCarthy at his peak never went this far. This hypocrisy needs to be rubbed in their faces at every opportunity.
 

8ball

Kingfisher
Catholic
How is it going to be a brain drain? Where will Russians leave to where they can be treated like normal human beings? Pretty much every Russian in the (((west))) must denounce Russia if not give up their citizenship soon if they don't want to be canceled. It won't be a brain drain into our countries, at any rate. Russians will be forced to work together or perish.

I highly doubt the Yandex engineers who may all lose their jobs will turn down 200k salaries from google and will be glad to sit on unemployment because of patriotism.

Its very easy took look at things in a black/white lense from a position of comfort. Ultimately those Russians will make difficult decisions based on whats best for them and their families, and yes there will likely be a brain drain. There always is when an economic collapse like this occurs, if it doesn’t then this would be the first time in history.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
I could see a Russian brain drain to China being possible. But the West? Looking extremely unlikely right now, the risk of being persecuted for simply being Russian is too great. Russians who are already here will probably give up their Russian citizenship, but the ones in Russia probably have no way to even get out of Russia at this point, except to friendly countries like China.
 

Caduceus

Pelican
Anyone think these withdrawals of hundreds of western companies from Russia is happening way too fast ?
It almost seems like it was all planned months (or years) in advance.

Also, I know for a fact that Putin has been planning a disconnect from the global internet for many years now.
There were 2 news articles about this topic on BBC News back in 2019, the year before before COVID started.
See here:



Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
11 February 2019

Russia is considering whether to disconnect from the global internet briefly, as part of a test of its cyber-defences.

The test will mean data passing between Russian citizens and organisations stays inside the nation rather than being routed internationally.
A draft law mandating technical changes needed to operate independently was introduced to its parliament last year.
The test is expected to happen before 1 April but no exact date has been set.


The draft law, called the Digital Economy National Program, requires Russia's ISPs to ensure that it can operate in the event of foreign powers acting to isolate the country online.

Nato and its allies have threatened to sanction Russia over the cyber-attacks and other online interference which it is regularly accused of instigating.

The measures outlined in the law include Russia building its own version of the net's address system, known as DNS, so it can operate if links to these internationally-located servers are cut.

Currently, 12 organisations oversee the root servers for DNS and none of them are in Russia. However many copies of the net's core address book do already exist inside Russia suggesting its net systems could keep working even if punitive action was taken to cut it off.

The test is also expected to involve ISPs demonstrating that they can direct data to government-controlled routing points. These will filter traffic so that data sent between Russians reaches its destination, but any destined for foreign computers is discarded.

Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a mass censorship system akin to that seen in China, which tries to scrub out prohibited traffic.

Russian news organisations reported that the nation's ISPs are broadly backing the aims of the draft law but are divided on how to do it. They believe the test will cause "major disruption" to Russian internet traffic, reports tech news website ZDNet.

The Russian government is providing cash for ISPs to modify their infrastructure so the redirection effort can be properly tested.





Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

By Jane Wakefield
Technology reporter
24 December 2019

Russia has successfully tested a country-wide alternative to the global internet, its government has announced.
Details of what the test involved were vague but, according to the Ministry of Communications, ordinary users did not notice any changes.
The results will now be presented to President Putin.

The initiative involves restricting the points at which Russia's version of the net connects to its global counterpart, giving the government more control over what its citizens can access.
"That would effectively get ISPs [internet service providers] and telcos to configure the internet within their borders as a gigantic intranet, just like a large corporation does," explained Prof Woodward.
 
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CaliforniaBased

Robin
Catholic
I could see a Russian brain drain to China being possible. But the West? Looking extremely unlikely right now, the risk of being persecuted for simply being Russian is too great. Russians who are already here will probably give up their Russian citizenship, but the ones in Russia probably have no way to even get out of Russia at this point, except to friendly countries like China.
In the 1990s in a certain way, Russian expertise was already being sold to the Chinese.

You tell me if this MIG 1.44 is any different from the Chinese j20. The Russians also sold an incomplete second copy of their only aircraft carrier to China.

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Going strong

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
In the 1990s in a certain way, Russian expertise was already being sold to the Chinese.

You tell me if this MIG 1.44 is any different from the Chinese j20..

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Oh, the MIGs look just like the J20s?... so Trump was right, in a way, a couple of days ago.

Except it's not, "let's paint a Chinese flag on our American F-16s and bomb the Russians for a false flag"...

It might be instead, let's paint a Chinese flag on our Polish MIGs (that look like the Chinese J20s) and bomb the Russians for a false flag. Was this what Trump was warning us of?

 

GuitarVH

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Here's an op-ed about western cancel culture carried by an independent French columnist on RT.

Western cancel culture has gone nuclear in targeting an entire country​


Here's an amusing snippet from the article:

According to various reports, North American government officials have been demanding the removal of Russian vodka from store shelves. But it turns out that almost none of it imported to the continent is actually made in Russia. The brands – Smirnoff or Stolichnaya, for example – just sound Russian. A bar in the state of Maryland has also renamed the classic Russian Mule cocktail, rebranding it a “Kyiv Mule”. And Magic Mountain ski resort, in Vermont, tweeted a video showing a bar man dumping bottles of Stoli – already bought and paid for, presumably – down the drain, apparently unaware that the brand is actually Latvian, with operations in Ukraine.

Russian author Fyodor Dostoevsky was cancelled by the University of Milano-Bicocca, in Italy, which suspended a course about him before reinstating it after a backlash. But the joke was on them, because Dostoevsky was already cancelled, you could say, having passed away in 1881, so the odds are fairly low that he had any involvement in the current Ukraine conflict.

 
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