Cernovich NYC event aftermath - attendee attacked

Matt Forney

Woodpecker
Teep said:
Irenicus said:
Elster said:
Seriously man, respond to quoted text outside the quote box, it is inmensely confusing and downright discouraging to read posts like that.

Indeed. That's why I have stopped discussing with him.

Yet you write several paragraphs "discussing" with me right after saying that? :tard:

The fact that he is too lazy to properly format his response, but he is lazy to do his own damn research - he claimed that R. Spencer did not write any books, while he was involved with 3. And yes Teep, he is the correct Richard Spencer - only one Richard Spencer has anything to do with Radix Journal. Took me 40 seconds (yes, I timed it on stopwatch, just like in Basic).

*Sigh*

It's 2 books, the first was another Richard Spencer. I know English isn't your first language, but please try and follow along.

In any case, he has not promoted them at every single opportunity.


Teep, with an attitude like that, it is no wonder that Alt Right had achieved nothing of substance. I asked what did the Alt Right accomplish since it's inception TWO times already in this thread! TWO!! I never got any normal answer.

I already answered this. He brought European identity into the national discourse. That's huge, and frankly far more important than anything Mike has done.

Ill rather enjoy the company of the New Right, a movement that ACHIEVED SOMETHING (Sam explained what Mike ALONE did, not the entire movement), over the company of the Alt Right WHO ACHIEVED NOTHING AS OF 2018!!.


Enjoy in your irrelevancy with Spencer, Johnson (a homo) and other SPLC/ADL shills. New Right is winning, and will keep winning, and I (and others on this forum) will do our part.

Yea, winning, win, win. This is why the alt light is a laughing stock. You all have a vocabulary of about 7 words.

Avast, ye landlubbers!

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armenia4ever

Kingfisher
Okay, it's time to speak up here.

I've personally met Mike, and this was before #GamerGate really took off. He stopped through Chicago, and I got to a chance to chat with him personally. He's the real deal. He is "tough" in person. You may not agree with him or his "actions", but he knows how the game is played by leftists and he is willing to fight fire with fire.

Concerning his two most vocal critics on here; Teep and Killer Joe, let's be straightforward. What the fuck have you done for the "cause"? Or for the dissident right in general? Mike is out there IN person. He's not anonymous on a forum board. You may disagree with his issues with Spencer or how he has no interest in the JQ right now, but let's not diminish just how much he's done - and how much he is risking.

There are so many damn couch critics - as well as some on this forum - that are willing to CRITICIZE everyone for everything, but are they out there risking their asses? There's all this talk about rebuilding the West and trying to restore/put forth a new culture - well, what are you doing in that regards?

Mike has a wife, a daughter, and is dependent on no one. He's a self made man. That's exactly what we are trying to promote when we think of rebuilding the West. It takes ALOT of work.

You want to criticize Mike? Fine. But you best be out there fighting the fight, not lurking in the shadows repeating criticism and mantra we've heard from Counter Currents a bazillion times.

Consider what you or the alt right have right now: an ideology based on opposition. You are gonna form a stable cohesive identity for the future off that?

What happens if you get your own "ethnostate" or even village? Do you turn on each other because there was nothing else holding you together besides bashing Jews, minorities, and triggering leftists via memes online?

Sure, let's ask the important question, but let's have some damn solutions in mind that can be implemented by men now in their daily lives. At least Mike has been about doing that his entire life.
 

Matt Forney

Woodpecker
With regards to Cernovich, Spencer, and the alt-lite/alt-right shit-flinging, I can offer my two cents, seeing as I'm one of the only people on this forum who knows both of them personally.

Cernovich has always been good to me. I used to regard him as a mentor, as he gave me lots of useful advice on writing, working out etc. when I was younger. He helped promote my site when it was getting off the ground, and the core of Gorilla Mindset---positive affirmations---is something I know works, because it helped me deal with a false rape accusation during the worst period of my life. Cernovich hired me to edit his book Danger and Play: Essays on Embracing Masculinity nearly three years ago, and when I tried to offer him a discount on my usual rate, he declined and paid my full rate up-front (in excess of $2,000 for the whole book).

So Cernovich has never personally let me down. I wish I could say the same for other people who've had dealings with him.

As for Richard Spencer, he used to suck up to me on the regular, and he even gave me free admission to one of his private events in the hopes that I'd write it up for Return of Kings (which I did). Then a year ago, he thoughtlessly threw me under the bus, blocking me from joining his site AltRight.com after his business partner Daniel Friberg had told me I would be part of the site (I was by far the most popular writer for Friberg's site Right On, which was merged into AltRight.com as part of the deal).

Spencer's sole reason for blocking me was to get revenge on Friberg for refusing to allow Mike Enoch to join the site. This was after Enoch had been doxed and revealed to be a fat, bumbling coward with a Jewish wife, who tried to throw his own fans under the bus by begging Salon to protect him from "neo-Nazis":

https://mattforney.com/mike-enoch-right-stuff-leadership/

Enoch was also the one who initiated the Hitler salutes at NPI's 2016 conference, the event that caused the alt-lite/alt-right schism and ended Richard Spencer's career before it even began.

That was Spencer's petty, childish justification for not letting me join AltRight.com: "If my friend can't be part of the site, YOUR friend can't either!" Spencer even went and publicly denounced me without telling Friberg; we were both stunned when we woke up the next morning and saw his Tweet.

From my perspective, there's no difference between the alt-lite and the alt-right. They're two sides of the same coin, two groups afflicted with Bitch Sickness (as AnonBosch put it a year ago), who fancy themselves Leaders of Men yet have the sneakiness and emotional incontinence of women.

Every sin that one side accuses the other of committing is one they commit themselves, from shilling and being "merchants" (see: the content paywalls that have been going up on every alt-right site) to disloyalty and "punching right" (see: Spencer screwing me over despite being one of the foundational writers of the alt-right, or his similar disavowal of Identity Evropa because they wouldn't bend the knee to him), to sexual degeneracy (you'll see this one soon enough, but some tradthots are gonna have to change careers when this shit goes public), to being too extreme (Nazi LARPing won't catch on with the general public, but neither will the alt-lite's embrace of aggressive homosexuality and hedonism).

It's a circus. A sideshow. A goddamn meat parade. It means as much as the latest antics of Chris-chan, DarkSydePhil, Channel Awesome or any other collection of lolcows. Men of good character are needed to lead revolutions, and men of good character are in short supply in both the alt-lite and alt-right, either because they've been driven out due to Mean Girls high school power games or they've quit in disgust.

The future leaders of Western civilization haven't yet emerged, and they likely won't until after the current collection of drama queens burns themselves out.
 
Some men live in the arena and other's don't. It's sad to see so many men with great talent refuse to engage with the real world on the big issues of the day. I was disappointed to see forum members spent WEEKS of their lives picking apart Mike in a different thread. The joke of it all being that these men claimed no ill will towards Mike and no dog in the fight. Jealousy is an ugly thing. I'm just a Golden Jew newbie on this forum but the cognitive dissonance on some issues is amazing. If some of the high iq/ability forum members that criticize other men who are out in the real world, making a difference off the internet, would have the confidence in themselves to engage with life, I think they'd be better off for it. And while it may seem like an unrelated issue, there is a distinct loneliness that emanates from these posters. Generally speaking, successful men with busy lives and close relationships don't spend pages and pages attacking other men. Is attacking successful men on the internet the equivalent of the crazy cat lady? Bitter and lonely people act out in all sorts of ways.
 
TheGoldenJew said:
Some men live in the arena and other's don't. It's sad to see so many men with great talent refuse to engage with the real world on the big issues of the day. I was disappointed to see forum members spent WEEKS of their lives picking apart Mike in a different thread. The joke of it all being that these men claimed no ill will towards Mike and no dog in the fight. Jealousy is an ugly thing. I'm just a Golden Jew newbie on this forum but the cognitive dissonance on some issues is amazing. If some of the high iq/ability forum members that criticize other men who are out in the real world, making a difference off the internet, would have the confidence in themselves to engage with life, I think they'd be better off for it. And while it may seem like an unrelated issue, there is a distinct loneliness that emanates from these posters. Generally speaking, successful men with busy lives and close relationships don't spend pages and pages attacking other men. Is attacking successful men on the internet the equivalent of the crazy cat lady? Bitter and lonely people act out in all sorts of ways.

Look at this word for word feminist language.

Shut the fuck up.
 
nomadbrah said:
TheGoldenJew said:
Some men live in the arena and other's don't. It's sad to see so many men with great talent refuse to engage with the real world on the big issues of the day. I was disappointed to see forum members spent WEEKS of their lives picking apart Mike in a different thread. The joke of it all being that these men claimed no ill will towards Mike and no dog in the fight. Jealousy is an ugly thing. I'm just a Golden Jew newbie on this forum but the cognitive dissonance on some issues is amazing. If some of the high iq/ability forum members that criticize other men who are out in the real world, making a difference off the internet, would have the confidence in themselves to engage with life, I think they'd be better off for it. And while it may seem like an unrelated issue, there is a distinct loneliness that emanates from these posters. Generally speaking, successful men with busy lives and close relationships don't spend pages and pages attacking other men. Is attacking successful men on the internet the equivalent of the crazy cat lady? Bitter and lonely people act out in all sorts of ways.

Look at this word for word feminist language.

Shut the fuck up.

Sorry I triggered you. Reality doesn't have an ideology.
 

kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
kekestani said:
Roosh said:
Teep has been banned. He was a liberal troll.

Only an inbred turk would deem repeated posts defending the alt right as "liberal trolling".

I don't mind the banning so much, but sloppy moderating I can not abide by.

Aww little soy boy came back to have the last word.

#sobrave
 

Captain Gh

Ostrich
Gold Member
kekestani said:
kaotic said:
kekestani said:
Roosh said:
Teep has been banned. He was a liberal troll.

Only an inbred turk would deem repeated posts defending the alt right as "liberal trolling".

I don't mind the banning so much, but sloppy moderating I can not abide by.

Aww little soy boy came back to have the last word.

#sobrave

I'm sorry. I don't understand nigger.

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kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
kekestani said:
kaotic said:
kekestani said:
Roosh said:
Teep has been banned. He was a liberal troll.

Only an inbred turk would deem repeated posts defending the alt right as "liberal trolling".

I don't mind the banning so much, but sloppy moderating I can not abide by.

Aww little soy boy came back to have the last word.

#sobrave

I'm sorry. I don't understand nigger.

Oh my, a racial slur !

How ever will I recover from this !

Surely this will doom me !

If I was black, I'd pull an Atlanta Man and STILL be slaying all that young tight hot white pussy.

Someones projecting their own fears. ;)

#wewazvikangz
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
kaotic said:
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Oh my, a racial slur !

How ever will I recover from this !

Surely this will doom me !

If I was black, I'd pull an Atlanta Man and STILL be slaying all that young tight hot white pussy.

Someones projecting their own fears. ;)

#wewazvikangz

Take that back!

I wuz Vikangz!

Don't put that loser in my longboat.
 

Captain Gh

Ostrich
Gold Member
kaotic said:
kekestani said:
kaotic said:
kekestani said:
Roosh said:
Teep has been banned. He was a liberal troll.

Only an inbred turk would deem repeated posts defending the alt right as "liberal trolling".

I don't mind the banning so much, but sloppy moderating I can not abide by.

Aww little soy boy came back to have the last word.

#sobrave

I'm sorry. I don't understand nigger.

Oh my, a racial slur !

How ever will I recover from this !

Surely this will doom me !

If I was black, I'd pull an Atlanta Man and STILL be slaying all that young tight hot white pussy.

Someones projecting their own fears. ;)

#wewazvikangz

Delete
 

Gmac

Peacock
Gold Member
Mike was a long-time contributor here who more than earned his keep and the respect of the bulk of the senior members here, including mine. Like him and his methods or not, he's added a lot of value to this community and to others in his career beyond. I personally know a number of men here who have benefited from his old game & fitness/health contributions and legal advice.

At the end of the day it really makes no difference what anyone thinks - so if you don't have anything nice to say, my advice is to not say it. I've been fortunate to have known Mike on and off the forum for years and to have worked with him in the real world. On a personal and professional level, he's legit and an extremely driven and motivated guy and will continue to "do himself, his way." I think some of you may need to just get over it, he's not going away anytime soon.
 

Matt Forney

Woodpecker
RedPillUK said:
Roosh said:
Teep has been banned. He was a liberal troll.

So he wasn't a an alt right Richard Spencer fan? That was a strange form of trolling. I don't get what he was trying to do.

If you really want to know what he was doing, see my post at the very beginning of this page.

Déjà vu.
 
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