Chick Tweets selfie taken at Auschwitz

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soup

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HawkWrites said:
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As a Jew with relatives who died in the Holocaust, I can't even begin to express how angry this makes me.

It's disgusting how self-centered people of my generation are. At least a million people died in that fucking camp, and all that little bitch can do is take a fucking selfie.

It's like Bieber hoping that Anne Frank would be a "belieber." WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

As a Jew with a similar situation I say to you: relax.

Do you really think some random little girl would take a picture like that if she understood the implications?

As a Jew myself, yes she would. Except she would phrase it in the "it's totes for Instagram so the world can see where I'm, like... visiting!" context.

People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.
 

HawkWrites

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soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
Truth Teller said:
As a Jew with relatives who died in the Holocaust, I can't even begin to express how angry this makes me.

It's disgusting how self-centered people of my generation are. At least a million people died in that fucking camp, and all that little bitch can do is take a fucking selfie.

It's like Bieber hoping that Anne Frank would be a "belieber." WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

As a Jew with a similar situation I say to you: relax.

Do you really think some random little girl would take a picture like that if she understood the implications?

As a Jew myself, yes she would. Except she would phrase it in the "it's totes for Instagram so the world can see where I'm, like... visiting!" context.

People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.

I don't see any inkling of Internet troll sophistication in her. I see someone who went to what she considers a "landmark" and a "historical place" without understanding the gravity behind why such a place would be marked with a designation such as those.

She also sounds like she has her head firmly up her ass in the video and I can't be sure of her age in order to make an accurate assessment. Assuming she's over 18, the true question evolves: WYB? For me, that big-ass forehead doesn't help.
 

soup

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HawkWrites said:
soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
Truth Teller said:
As a Jew with relatives who died in the Holocaust, I can't even begin to express how angry this makes me.

It's disgusting how self-centered people of my generation are. At least a million people died in that fucking camp, and all that little bitch can do is take a fucking selfie.

It's like Bieber hoping that Anne Frank would be a "belieber." WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

As a Jew with a similar situation I say to you: relax.

Do you really think some random little girl would take a picture like that if she understood the implications?

As a Jew myself, yes she would. Except she would phrase it in the "it's totes for Instagram so the world can see where I'm, like... visiting!" context.

People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.

I don't see any inkling of Internet troll sophistication in her. I see someone who went to what she considers a "landmark" and a "historical place" without understanding the gravity behind why such a place was marked with a designation such as those.

I agree.

I have a friend who just came back from vacation in Greece. I asked if they had seen the ruins.

"Nope. Just hung out in the hotel. If you've seen one ruins, you've seen them all."

I thought that was interesting.

I also have a friend who celebrated July forth at the battlefield in Gettysburg. I asked if they did the fireworks there, and they said something along the lines of "that would have been in appropriate"

All of this stuff is relevant, but it's more or less so depending on who's still got a connection to each event.

They are great, often terrible, historical events.

I do think this picture is egregious, but I also think that if people are going to make a big deal about it, then they should also make a big deal about all those other places of atrocity that people take selfies at, like the Aztec ruins. I haven't seen as much commotion from people in central America over something like this- I don't know, maybe they should be mad as well:

And what about Hitler Cats http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl ?

To me, this is all just a sign of civilization makes a lot of trash out of everything.. even things that are important. It's the way we make light of all the crazy shit that doesn't make sense to us.
 

Glaucon

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Girl keeps it classy.

She is just an ignorant cunt who does not know anything about history. What did you expect?
 

HawkWrites

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soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
As a Jew with a similar situation I say to you: relax.

Do you really think some random little girl would take a picture like that if she understood the implications?

As a Jew myself, yes she would. Except she would phrase it in the "it's totes for Instagram so the world can see where I'm, like... visiting!" context.

People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.

I don't see any inkling of Internet troll sophistication in her. I see someone who went to what she considers a "landmark" and a "historical place" without understanding the gravity behind why such a place was marked with a designation such as those.

I agree.

I have a friend who just came back from vacation in Greece. I asked if they had seen the ruins.

"Nope. Just hung out in the hotel. If you've seen one ruins, you've seen them all."

I thought that was interesting.

I also have a friend who celebrated July forth at the battlefield in Gettysburg. I asked if they did the fireworks there, and they said something along the lines of "that would have been in appropriate"

All of this stuff is relevant, but it's more or less so depending on who's still got a connection to each event.

They are great, often terrible, historical events.

I do think this picture is egregious, but I also think that if people are going to make a big deal about it, then they should also make a big deal about all those other places of atrocity that people take selfies at.

Couldn't have said it better, brother. The ruins of the Coliseum in Greece were home to all kinds of atrocities but people tend to gloss over it because of how long ago they occurred. In addition, people don't really identify with it; in all honesty, how could they? The concept of animals versus humans or even humans versus humans in one-on-one combat is archaic to the point that most people won't even give it a second thought.

Gettysburg was one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War even though it merely lasted a few days. A considerable number of people lost their lives yet many people merely see what once was a battlefield of death and decay as just farmland or rural countryside.

Both of these locations are somber but for different reasons. Unfortunately there are very few people in the younger generation that actually understand the reasoning. It's a damn shame.
 

soup

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HawkWrites said:
soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
HawkWrites said:
As a Jew myself, yes she would. Except she would phrase it in the "it's totes for Instagram so the world can see where I'm, like... visiting!" context.

People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.

I don't see any inkling of Internet troll sophistication in her. I see someone who went to what she considers a "landmark" and a "historical place" without understanding the gravity behind why such a place was marked with a designation such as those.

I agree.

I have a friend who just came back from vacation in Greece. I asked if they had seen the ruins.

"Nope. Just hung out in the hotel. If you've seen one ruins, you've seen them all."

I thought that was interesting.

I also have a friend who celebrated July forth at the battlefield in Gettysburg. I asked if they did the fireworks there, and they said something along the lines of "that would have been in appropriate"

All of this stuff is relevant, but it's more or less so depending on who's still got a connection to each event.

They are great, often terrible, historical events.

I do think this picture is egregious, but I also think that if people are going to make a big deal about it, then they should also make a big deal about all those other places of atrocity that people take selfies at.

Couldn't have said it better, brother. The ruins of the Coliseum in Greece were home to all kinds of atrocities but people tend to gloss over it because of how long ago they occurred. In addition, people don't really identify with it; in all honesty, how could they? The concept of animals versus humans or even humans versus humans in one-on-one combat is archaic to the point that most people won't even give it a second thought.

Gettysburg was one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War even though it merely lasted a few days. A considerable number of people lost their lives yet many people merely see what once was a battlefield of death and decay as just farmland or rural countryside.

Both of these locations are somber but for different reasons. Unfortunately there are very few people in the younger generation that actually understand the reasoning. It's a damn shame.

There's a got to be an evolutionary reason for why we don't have generational memory.

We do inherit emotional traumas, but I have a theory that if we all remembered every battle and vendetta that came before us, we would not be able to survive deep into the future.

The human race intentionally forgets some things.. as a healing mechanism, I believe. That said, we still work to evolve towards becoming a better creature.

We are, right now, at the crest of a wave.

Consciousness is defined as being able to strategize future scenarios. I believe we might need to have a better understanding of where we are coming from if we are going to avoid making the mistakes of the past.
 

HawkWrites

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soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
HawkWrites said:
soup said:
People take pictures in front of the Colosseum, a place of terrible atrocities as well, like that all the time. What's the difference? I think she's probably just a dumb girl who is un-aware of PC stuff. Either that, or a very sophisticated internet troll.

I don't see why the internet is freaking out over that.

Keep in mind that we are all probably evolved from millions of generations of killers. Let's not white wash our evolution. Think about all the people that were killed out of cold blood so that we could be alive right now.

I'm not saying the holocaust was nothing, but the truth is that mankind has been committing genocides for a long time. There are monuments that were involved with that kind of thing which are now tourist attractions that span many hundreds of years.

I'd bet $100 that this girl didn't really even care about where she was. She was probably just happy to be in Europe away from her parents and slutting it up. I think the problem is that we as a people are losing touch with our roots.

I think the real reason people are mad is because this incident reminds a lot of them that they are getting old. That the events and things they cared about might not matter to as much to a new generation as it did to them.

I don't see any inkling of Internet troll sophistication in her. I see someone who went to what she considers a "landmark" and a "historical place" without understanding the gravity behind why such a place was marked with a designation such as those.

I agree.

I have a friend who just came back from vacation in Greece. I asked if they had seen the ruins.

"Nope. Just hung out in the hotel. If you've seen one ruins, you've seen them all."

I thought that was interesting.

I also have a friend who celebrated July forth at the battlefield in Gettysburg. I asked if they did the fireworks there, and they said something along the lines of "that would have been in appropriate"

All of this stuff is relevant, but it's more or less so depending on who's still got a connection to each event.

They are great, often terrible, historical events.

I do think this picture is egregious, but I also think that if people are going to make a big deal about it, then they should also make a big deal about all those other places of atrocity that people take selfies at.

Couldn't have said it better, brother. The ruins of the Coliseum in Greece were home to all kinds of atrocities but people tend to gloss over it because of how long ago they occurred. In addition, people don't really identify with it; in all honesty, how could they? The concept of animals versus humans or even humans versus humans in one-on-one combat is archaic to the point that most people won't even give it a second thought.

Gettysburg was one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War even though it merely lasted a few days. A considerable number of people lost their lives yet many people merely see what once was a battlefield of death and decay as just farmland or rural countryside.

Both of these locations are somber but for different reasons. Unfortunately there are very few people in the younger generation that actually understand the reasoning. It's a damn shame.

There's a got to be an evolutionary reason for why we don't have generational memory.

We do inherit emotional traumas, but I have a theory that if we all remembered every battle and vendetta that came before us, we would not be able to survive deep into the future.

The human race intentionally forgets some things.. as a healing mechanism, I believe. That said, we still work to evolve towards becoming a better creature.

We are, right now, at the crest of a wave.

Consciousness is defined as being able to strategize future scenarios. I believe we might need to have a better understanding of where we are coming from if we are going to avoid making the mistakes of the past.

Well, we do have the phrase of "Never again". There is also the phrase of "Always forgive but never forget." I feel as if these two phrases are consciously overlooked in order to defer to the advancement of the society. We look to become technologically superior each year but we lose another piece of our humanity with each passing phase.

We do evolve but I think it would behoove us to remember traumatic events if only as examples of the kinds of things to avoid and to prevent history from repeating itself. The phrase "History always repeats itself" exists solely for the fact that people don't learn from past mistakes. I can't see why the things you and I have mentioned would be any different, unfortunately.
 

Sawyer

 
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Auschwitz could be considered the birthplace of the greatest Jewish victory in 2000 years. The place nearly synonymous with the legendary event that began the sounding of the as yet bottomless wellspring of white guilt and the creation of the Jewish homeland.

This may be a horrible Christian perspective, but if I were a Jewish guy who chose not to fight for his beloved Germany but instead was rounded up and sent to a camp to die, there is nothing that would make me happier than seeing my grand daughter happily living in a world that finally respects the sovereignty of her people, and that I did not die in vain but instead was part of achieving a goal two millennia in the making.

You Jews need to lighten up. There are a lot of people whose grandparents died on Omaha beach and elsewhere for your territorial redemption. It's time to move on.
 

HawkWrites

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Sawyer said:
Auschwitz could be considered the birthplace of the greatest Jewish victory in 2000 years. The place nearly synonymous with the legendary event that began the sounding of the as yet bottomless wellspring of white guilt and the creation of the Jewish homeland.

This may be a horrible Christian perspective, but if I were a Jewish guy who chose not to fight for his beloved Germany but instead was rounded up and sent to a camp to die, there is nothing that would make me happier than seeing my grand daughter happily living in a world that finally respects the sovereignty of her people, and that I did not die in vain but instead was part of achieving a goal two millennia in the making.

You Jews need to lighten up. There are a lot of people whose grandparents died on Omaha beach and elsewhere for your territorial redemption. It's time to move on.

Operation Overlord had nothing to do with the liberation of Jews in concentration camps. Several other kinds of people were also imprisoned as well. D-Day and the invasion of Omaha beach had to do with breaking up the Nazi stranglehold in France so the Allies could push further into Europe with the eventual goal of reaching Germany to prevent the Third Reich from taking over the entire world.

Don't use something like the D-Day landings and the associated Allied deaths as political fodder. That's just disrespectful to assume that it had anything to do with territorial acquisition or redemption.
 

HawkWrites

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WWII was the most interesting era in history to me so I'm always interested in learning about motivations and tactics behind the various military operations of the war.
 

soup

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Sawyer said:
Auschwitz could be considered the birthplace of the greatest Jewish victory in 2000 years. The place nearly synonymous with the legendary event that began the sounding of the as yet bottomless wellspring of white guilt and the creation of the Jewish homeland.

This may be a horrible Christian perspective, but if I were a Jewish guy who chose not to fight for his beloved Germany but instead was rounded up and sent to a camp to die, there is nothing that would make me happier than seeing my grand daughter happily living in a world that finally respects the sovereignty of her people, and that I did not die in vain but instead was part of achieving a goal two millennia in the making.

You Jews need to lighten up. There are a lot of people whose grandparents died on Omaha beach and elsewhere for your territorial redemption. It's time to move on.

Sawyer, is that machiavelli in your avatar?
 

Sawyer

 
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HawkWrites said:
Sawyer said:
Auschwitz could be considered the birthplace of the greatest Jewish victory in 2000 years. The place nearly synonymous with the legendary event that began the sounding of the as yet bottomless wellspring of white guilt and the creation of the Jewish homeland.

This may be a horrible Christian perspective, but if I were a Jewish guy who chose not to fight for his beloved Germany but instead was rounded up and sent to a camp to die, there is nothing that would make me happier than seeing my grand daughter happily living in a world that finally respects the sovereignty of her people, and that I did not die in vain but instead was part of achieving a goal two millennia in the making.

You Jews need to lighten up. There are a lot of people whose grandparents died on Omaha beach and elsewhere for your territorial redemption. It's time to move on.

Operation Overlord had nothing to do with the liberation of Jews in concentration camps. Several other kinds of people were also imprisoned as well. D-Day and the invasion of Omaha beach had to do with breaking up the Nazi stranglehold in France so the Allies could push further into Europe with the eventual goal of reaching Germany to prevent the Third Reich from taking over the entire world.

Don't use something like the D-Day landings and the associated Allied deaths as political fodder. That's just disrespectful to assume that it had anything to do with territorial acquisition or redemption.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, I only mean to let some air into the conversation. This isn't a kibbutz, after all.
 

Sawyer

 
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soup said:
Sawyer said:
Auschwitz could be considered the birthplace of the greatest Jewish victory in 2000 years. The place nearly synonymous with the legendary event that began the sounding of the as yet bottomless wellspring of white guilt and the creation of the Jewish homeland.

This may be a horrible Christian perspective, but if I were a Jewish guy who chose not to fight for his beloved Germany but instead was rounded up and sent to a camp to die, there is nothing that would make me happier than seeing my grand daughter happily living in a world that finally respects the sovereignty of her people, and that I did not die in vain but instead was part of achieving a goal two millennia in the making.

You Jews need to lighten up. There are a lot of people whose grandparents died on Omaha beach and elsewhere for your territorial redemption. It's time to move on.

Sawyer, is that machiavelli in your avatar?

Saint Thomas More -- and yeah, I'll probably go to hell for it.
 

Saga

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HawkWrites said:
The ruins of the Coliseum in Greece

*Italy...off-topic I know.

As for the photo, a smiling selfie taken from Auschwitz was almost bound to happen sooner or later, so it registers neither surprise nor shock on my part. Since this will almost certainly become more frequent in the future, maybe Auschwitz can employ some very stern guards to bark at people when they do something inappropriate and disrespectful...tombs of the unknown soldier all over the world have been doing that for years.
 

HawkWrites

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Saga said:
HawkWrites said:
The ruins of the Coliseum in Greece

*Italy...off-topic I know.

As for the photo, a smiling selfie taken from Auschwitz was almost bound to happen sooner or later, so it registers neither surprise nor shock on my part. Since this will almost certainly become more frequent in the future, maybe Auschwitz can employ some very stern guards to bark at people when they do something inappropriate and disrespectful...tombs of the unknown soldier all over the world have been doing that for years.

Technically if we're talking animal and human fights those happened frequently at the Coliseum in Rome (Italy's capital). Hey, if I fuck up, let me know. I'd rather be corrected than go through life with a misconception about something like that.

The Tomb has been but they still allow people to take pictures. I haven't heard of The Old Guard getting pissed at people taking photos of the patrolling ritual or the Changing of the Guard.
 
What do you expect from this generation as it simply lacks any empathy:


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Monkey see - monkey do.

They learn from the celebrities - here a "fun" video for the Justin Timberlake/Jessica Biel wedding:



I know, I know - they did not do it or order it supposedly, but I don't buy that shit. My friends would know better than to do something like this and mock people for their current poverty-ridden state. I guess they knew that Justin & Jessica would find it very funny.

Fuck them - I guess in a way the generation deserves the rampant destruction of society that is to come.
 

HawkWrites

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I will actually get pissed at people being bitch-worthy at Arlington or at The Tomb. That's just me; everyone is entitled to their opinion but I find any vapid or idiotic activity to be deserving of nothing but the most haughty derision at these locations.
 

bojangles

Crow
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Is the faux outrage on here equivalent to feminists?

Girl's dad teaches girl about holocaust, girls dad dies before they can make a trip to Poland. A year on, on the anniversary of his death, she's there and takes a picture so she can show her family and twitter followers that she actually got there and 'made her dad proud (?)'.

Natural reaction for girls taking photos of themselves is to smile or pout, its pre programmed

Earphones? You get them on most tours in Europe as the tour guide is normally not speaking English.

The abuse is unwarranted but as usual its a load of keyboard warriors sending her stuff.
 

HawkWrites

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bojangles said:
Is the faux outrage on here equivalent to feminists?

Girl's dad teaches girl about holocaust, girls dad dies before they can make a trip to Poland. A year on, on the anniversary of his death, she's there and takes a picture so she can show her family and twitter followers that she actually got there and 'made her dad proud (?)'.

Natural reaction for girls taking photos of themselves is to smile or pout, its pre programmed

Earphones? You get them on most tours in Europe as the tour guide is normally not speaking English.

The abuse is unwarranted but as usual its a load of keyboard warriors sending her stuff.

"Made her dad proud" to me is the equivalent of the idiots who "wear the uniform to honor their X/Y/Z". Any of the times you see some jack-off with a Ranger tab on his shoulder? Obviously it was to "honor" his family member.

It all falls under the same general category for me.
 
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