Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America - a book published in 1996 predicted these riots almost to the day

STG

Sparrow
https://www.resist.com/Onlinebooks/CWII.pdf

Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America was published in 1996 by Thomas Chittum.

Thomas Chittum

Chittum predicts that the United States will soon face Balkanization[3] and a second Civil War based on racial conflicts.[6] He plans to move to upstate New York because it would likely still be a Caucasian-controlled area after the American Southwest effectively becomes part of Mexico by 2020 due to immigration.[7]
Having read this before, when the widespread riots began I remembered this book.

Skimming through it again the author predicted things happening now and the date he said it would start was off by about a month.

How is that possible?

Sure the exact time, date, and place are not correct but this book was published about 25 years ago.... I would say that is an amazing prediction!

P5: USA Third-World slums reach 20 million - 2021 How dangerous are these third-world colonia slums? Eventually, all of southern California will be a vast third- world colonia slum, and dead center of the 100 mile by 100 mile L.A. colonia will be the epicenter and ground zero of Civil War II. Based on the mutual reinforcement and therefore certain acceleration of the trends listed above, I expect Civil War II will shift into its all-out, continuous military phase sooner than the above figures indicate. Not to be accused of stinginess, I'll even give the exact time and place:

The Year: 2020
The Date: The Fifth of May
The Time: About Midnight
The State: California
The City: Los Angeles
The Place: Ruben Salazar Park
The heart of America, its culture and its wealth, beats in the European, English-speaking North. Here we see the pattern of black inner cities surrounded by primarily white suburban and rural areas. Blacks will seize the municipal governments and urban blacks will become increasingly poverty-stricken due to mismanagement and corruption of black one party rule, the recent financial collapse of Washington D.C. being a case in point. Riots will increase, and black mayors will not put them down so as not to alienate their power base, just as New York's Mayor Dinkins gave his tacit blessing to the Crown Heights riot of 1991.
Also, the federal military will be primarily minority by the time of Civil War II in the north. A minority-dominated federal military and the military formations of southern blacks might well have more firepower than white suburban and rural populations who may well be without privately-owned firearms by the time these events come to pass. It is clear that in a straight up black versus white confrontation in the north, the blacks loose. This reality dictates a strategy of a black alliance with establishment white imperialists, and internationalists. This is a high risk strategy because blacks will almost certainly be thrown overboard by the establishment if the percentage of their population decreases, and it may well result in a white genocidal fury against them if it is unsuccessful and the whites win. If the blacks are initially successful, white guerrillas will certainly fight back. Again, these events will not occur in isolation. Canada, which itself may break up into English-speaking and French-speaking sections, may provide sanctuaries for white guerrilla formations.
Projections by the Census Bureau indicate that approximately sixty years from now, nonwhites will become majority in America, and Europeans a minority. The current (1992) figures are: Whites 74.8% Blacks 11,9% Hispanics 9.5% Asians 3.1% Indians 0.7%. The projections for 2050 AD are; Whites 52.5% Blacks 14.4% Hispanics 22.5% Asians 9.7% Indians 0.9% (See Figure 1). How fast is America being transformed? In the 1960s America was about 89% white, then a liberalization of the immigration laws caused a surge in the nonwhite population. Since the Sixties the white percentage of the population has fallen at about the rate of 1/2 a percentage point every year. It is clear from the census projections that the government expects (and is actually causing) this process to continue at about the same or an increased rate. 3
Urban riots have long been a fact of American life, and many were ethnic in nature. Today, they are almost exclusively ethnic in nature, and it doesn't take much to ignite one. Electrical blackouts, unpopular legal decisions, traffic accidents, real and imagined police brutality, and racial incidents of all sorts are commonly followed by ethnic riots. Urban riots have preceded almost every revolution and civil war in western civilization since the Industrial Revolution, and they are now preceding Civil War II in America. If you disagree, consider these trends in rioting:

Trend 1: Heavy Weapons Watch future riots to see if heavy weapons such as attack aircraft, artillery, or armored vehicles are used to suppress them. If they are, we'll know we've taken another critical step towards Civil War II. Actually, in the Los Angels riot of'92, armored personnel carriers were used by the Los Angeles police to flush out organized snipers in the predominately black Jordan Downs housing project (Robert vernon, LA. Justice, Focus on the Family Publishing, 1993, pp. 22-27.). Armored personnel carriers are not police vehicles; armored personnel carriers are military attack vehicles. Armored vehicles were necessary because the riot was not actually a riot, but a hybrid somewhere between a riot and a war. It is a stark fact that these riots are increasingly taking on the characteristics of outright warfare, and that the police are increasingly and necessarily taking on the characteristics of armies in order to fight these wars. This ongoing conversion of our police departments into military formations is reflected by their increasing use of armored vehicles, helicopters, bulletspraying assault rifles, combat helmets, bulletproof vests, military uniforms, sniper rifles, and military organizational structures such as SWAT teams.

Trend 2: Ethnic Militias Watch riots for confrontations between armed ethnic militias, because such confrontations will certainly precede Civil War II. Actually, a confrontation between armed ethnic militias has already occurred. In the Los Angeles riot of '92, Korean merchants spontaneously formed a de facto ethnic militia (Newsweek, "The Siege of LA.", May 11,1992, p. 38.). They armed themselves with pistols and shotguns, stationed themselves on the roofs of the buildings in their shopping center, and coordinated their defense of their property with citizen band radios. In so doing they successfully defended their property against similar armed ethnic militias composed of black street gang members that torched much of Los Angeles. In the Los Angeles riot of '92, armed ethnic militias confronted each other on American soil, but the significance was missed, intentionally or otherwise, by the politically correct establishment media. Why?

Trend 3: Barricades When rioters erect barricades, they're taking an important step, consciously or unconsciously, towards creating a new nation, however small or temporary. These barricades are boundaries. They proclaim that all on one side are of the same tribe, and that all on the other side are foreigners. These barricades are physical boundaries that are preceded by and reflect the boundaries in the hearts and minds of those who erected them. After these physical barricades are torn down by the police, the barricades still remain in the hearts and minds of those who erected them, and therein lies the real problem, because barricades in hearts and minds can not be torn down by any amount of police force.

Trend 4: Siege of Police Stations Nations do not allow hostile armed forces on their territory, so watch for rioters laying siege to police stations and military installations. The media will call these sieges attempts to punish the police or capture their weapons, but that's only half the truth. The greater truth is that, consciously or unconsciously, these rioters are creating a new nation, and that they perceive the police as the occupying army of a foreign power. Also, watch for attempts to seize radio and television stations, and government buildings.
Eventually, being an American will be meaningless in practical terms, and therefore there will be no point in the continued existence of America at all. Eventually for working-class white Americans our ethnic group and income level will be our de facto nationality. The racist euphemism for this systematic dismantling of the rights of English-speaking Europeans is affirmative action. Increasingly, economic opportunities and even legal rights are determined not by your status of being an American citizen or not, but by your ethnic group. Increasingly, government documents require that individuals state their ethnic group. This data is not merely for informational purposes.
 
Problem with the civil war scenario is that one side will have to fight back and i dont see the right in America fighting back even the slightest. Sure you have the guns, but you guys wont use them and even more of your will give them up so you can go watch your NFL or NBA from the comfort of your lazyboy. Even with europes censorious laws on rascism the right in germany and eastern europe have no issues protesting and amassing thousands of people. The right in America is docile and weak and doesnt even want to organize a call in protest to get someone who posted some incendiary things online fired or suspended.
 

R.G.Camara

Sparrow
The fall of the Western Roman Empire seems to be our future.

  • Romans become decadent.
  • Import diversity to "do jobs the Romans won't do" and because they are "refugees" (the Goths and Vandals).
  • Diversity causes a civil war, with the Goths and Vandals marauding up and down the interior of the empire like Vikings.
  • Ordinary Romans, detached from the idea of being Roman after decades of luxury, do not bother gelling together to destroy the invaders. After all, according to the official propaganda, the Goths were now Romans.
  • Instead, ordinary Romans turn to the local warlord who will offer them the best protection against attack, and cling to him rather than the Empire as a construct.
  • Feudalism and Medieval Europe commences as the West breaks into a thousand petty kingdoms, each with a warlord who offers stability and actual protection and care for those who pledge him loyalty. Most are far away from old Roman cities and are rural-centered, as cities are now filthy and destroyed and ransacked.
Personally, I'm going to try to buy some land in an area I think will remain my race more or less, but far in the country. I hope my descendants can survive.
 

kel

Pelican
The boomer "right" (economic liberalism) has been a horrible blight on the world. The new right will be a lot more active and pragmatic. Unfortunately, as I've said many times, things still have to get much worse before then. Everyone's job between now and then is to prepare yourself, your family, and your community.
 

STG

Sparrow
The fall of the Western Roman Empire seems to be our future.

  • Romans become decadent.
  • Import diversity to "do jobs the Romans won't do" and because they are "refugees" (the Goths and Vandals).
  • Diversity causes a civil war, with the Goths and Vandals marauding up and down the interior of the empire like Vikings.
  • Ordinary Romans, detached from the idea of being Roman after decades of luxury, do not bother gelling together to destroy the invaders. After all, according to the official propaganda, the Goths were now Romans.
  • Instead, ordinary Romans turn to the local warlord who will offer them the best protection against attack, and cling to him rather than the Empire as a construct.
  • Feudalism and Medieval Europe commences as the West breaks into a thousand petty kingdoms, each with a warlord who offers stability and actual protection and care for those who pledge him loyalty. Most are far away from old Roman cities and are rural-centered, as cities are now filthy and destroyed and ransacked.
Personally, I'm going to try to buy some land in an area I think will remain my race more or less, but far in the country. I hope my descendants can survive.
100% correct.

Check this out, the people living in Roman lands today are not the descendents of the original Romans:

https://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/

It would be like after the complete collapse of the United States, a future civilization teaches its citizens that the ruins of Detroit were built there by the black Americans because that is who is living there today.
 

R.G.Camara

Sparrow
100% correct.

Check this out, the people living in Roman lands today are not the descendents of the original Romans:

https://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/

It would be like after the complete collapse of the United States, a future civilization teaches its citizens that the ruins of Detroit were built there by the black Americans because that is who is living there today.
It's too bad history---especially European history, and including Greco-Roman history---is not taught any longer in schools. We've lost a wealth of knowledge merely from applied ignorance. Vox Day is absolutely right when he states that immigration leads to war.

Sicily, for example, was taking over by the Normans for many hundreds of years during Medieval times. That's right, French Vikings took over the valuable breadbasket.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
Below is an interesting article (even though it is CNN) on the Boogaloos. The authorities are confused how to classify them because some are extreme right and some are extreme left. This is a good sign, because it shows they are thinking outside the paradigm. I don’t know how serious this is, but the real thing will emerge organically just like this.

 

bucky

Pelican
I don't understand people who talk about a white vs. black civil war. I can see no scenario in which large numbers of white Americans would ever organize to defend themselves along ethnic lines, especially if that involved actually fighting back against black Americans. That would be racism, the unforgivable sin in their deranged equality religion.

The few exceptions out in the sticks would be mopped up rather quickly if the powers that be ever found it necessary.
 

Brillynt

Pigeon
Gold Member
https://www.resist.com/Onlinebooks/CWII.pdf

Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America was published in 1996 by Thomas Chittum.

Thomas Chittum



Having read this before, when the widespread riots began I remembered this book.

Skimming through it again the author predicted things happening now and the date he said it would start was off by about a month.

How is that possible?

Sure the exact time, date, and place are not correct but this book was published about 25 years ago.... I would say that is an amazing prediction!

It seems the hosting company has taken the site down. Censorship strikes again.
 

Easy_C

Crow
Problem with the civil war scenario is that one side will have to fight back and i dont see the right in America fighting back even the slightest. Sure you have the guns, but you guys wont use them and even more of your will give them up so you can go watch your NFL or NBA from the comfort of your lazyboy. Even with europes censorious laws on rascism the right in germany and eastern europe have no issues protesting and amassing thousands of people. The right in America is docile and weak and doesnt even want to organize a call in protest to get someone who posted some incendiary things online fired or suspended.
So how do you explain the armed checkpoints and barricades that have been set up in cities across the country?
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Personally I've been noticing that each time a bout of these riots kick off the black looters become more and more fearless. It went from looting their own neighbourhoods, to looting surrounding neighbourhoods and committing assaults in their own areas, to now where they're looting all over the place and assaults are being committed far from the hood. They're even running over cops and shooting them now.

This time they (and antifa) seem to have stopped just shy of the suburbs. This suggests that the next round of mayhem will spill into the suburbs. We might see that in November if Trump wins, or especially if he loses by margins that indicate rigging decided the outcome and he refuses to step down.

In any case, if the next riots spill into the suburbs we probably will see some serious casualties which may cause a series of endless escalations arriving in waves on an ever rising tide of violence. In particular if Trump refuses to concede to a rigged election outcome then the military will have their hands tied and restoring order during mass riots will be extremely difficult under those circumstances.

One thing I will say. If social media is ever blacked out or severely shut down to a trickle from official accounts then that's the surest sign that the elites are losing control of the situation. Social media is their whip to spur the masses in whatever direction they want them to stampede. If the violence grows beyond their ability to curtail and they can't plug reports of counter-violence from Red America with their algorithms then they will be left with little choice but to flip the switch on the whole thing and leave people in the dark until they quieten down.

This whole debacle can be laid entirely at the feet of social media. Not even the MSM could have built this much hype.
 
Problem with the civil war scenario is that one side will have to fight back and i dont see the right in America fighting back even the slightest. Sure you have the guns, but you guys wont use them and even more of your will give them up so you can go watch your NFL or NBA from the comfort of your lazyboy. Even with europes censorious laws on rascism the right in germany and eastern europe have no issues protesting and amassing thousands of people. The right in America is docile and weak and doesnt even want to organize a call in protest to get someone who posted some incendiary things online fired or suspended.
There's some truth to what you're saying. But, I encourage to look at what happened at Evergreen State College. Basically, that's the future of our country right now. It doesn't matter if the right or white people remains passive. "They" are going to come for you no matter what. The antagonists at Evergreen were not all Black, matter of fact, many were white. The common thread is they were all under the influence of the equality religion. So, the right and all their guns might go back to watching sports, perhaps. But, when the mob is outside looking to loot, burn your house, rape your wife etc...people will act.

Another poster commented how he can't picture civil war in America because it will be too much racism if whites fight Blacks. Well, the good news is it won't necessarily be a black and white, because its more against radical leftists, antifa, which are mixed race against just the white. Also, apropos to Evergreen, look what it did to very liberal professors at Evergreen. Dr. Weinstein and his wife are still probably liberal, but, believe me, they saw this unfold first hand.
 
I can see no scenario in which large numbers of white Americans would ever organize to defend themselves along ethnic lines, especially if that involved actually fighting back against black Americans. That would be racism, the unforgivable sin in their deranged equality religion.
Have you seen footage of Dominicans in New York City driving out rioters? We also have to remember not 100% minorities are on board with this. No one is coming to save us, but we'll find some allies along the way.
 
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beta_plus

Pelican
I don't understand people who talk about a white vs. black civil war. I can see no scenario in which large numbers of white Americans would ever organize to defend themselves along ethnic lines, especially if that involved actually fighting back against black Americans. That would be racism, the unforgivable sin in their deranged equality religion.

The few exceptions out in the sticks would be mopped up rather quickly if the powers that be ever found it necessary.
If you break whites up into GoodWhites (descended from North Sea Viking Raped Countries) VS BadWhites (Irish Sea Protestants, aka The Scots Irish), then have Civil War II be BadWhites VS Everyone Else including GoodWhites, then Civil War II becomes much more plausible.

Think of blacks, other racial minorities, and the Catholic white working class (who, despite being treated like trash by GoodWhites, still consider an alliance with the BadWhites as a fate worse than death) as pawns of the GoodWhites, who the GoodWhites can use against the BadWhites.

I have read the book above, which I really enjoyed. However, IIRC, it simply lumped whites together and did not consider intra-white or intra-minority, which would definitely happen with hispanics, conflict. I might be wrong about that. I read it years ago.
 

bucky

Pelican
Have you seen footage of Dominicans in New York City driving out rioters? We also have to remember not 100% minorities are on board with this. No one is coming to safe us, but we'll find some allies along the way.
Dominicans, sure. No one can call them racist nor would they particularly care if anyone did. Same as the famous Korean shop keepers in the LA riots.
 

kel

Pelican
The left has a myth of "PoC solidarity". It's basically bullshit. A very, very fragile alliance based entirely either on hatred/jealousy of whites or just opportunism (oil rich khalijis or kids of Chinese oligarchs who are smart enough to say "Free money? Ummm... yeah, fight the power, my brothas and sistas! We're in this together!"). It is not based on any positive ideology and, therefore, won't last.
 

beta_plus

Pelican
The left has a myth of "PoC solidarity". It's basically bullshit. A very, very fragile alliance based entirely either on hatred/jealousy of whites or just opportunism (oil rich khalijis or kids of Chinese oligarchs who are smart enough to say "Free money? Ummm... yeah, fight the power, my brothas and sistas! We're in this together!"). It is not based on any positive ideology and, therefore, won't last.
The left HATES it when you bring up the ethnic cleansing of South Los Angeles, where mestizo hispanics have replaced blacks, often violently.
 
(oil rich khalijis or kids of Chinese oligarchs who are smart enough to say "Free money? Ummm... yeah, fight the power, my brothas and sistas! We're in this together!").
Unlike many of the black SJW who are more like a battering ram, many of the south Asian SJW are particularly cunning and realize how to really milk the system not just a ghetto lottery ticket. SJW is actually being hijacked by articulate south Asian /Indian women usually from very wealthy backgrounds. If you read their articles, at the root of them is usually raging jealousy and hatred when they realized all the guys liked Jenny with the long blond hair and green eyes. Steve Sailer has a 'rule' of female journalism that eventually every female journalist will write and article saying America is racist/sexist/whatever because they don't value women who look like, well, the journalist.
 
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