I dont see how civil war would even occur as the differences are not even regionally based except for the city/rural divide. I assume that the real civil war will be some kind of internal economic war, maybe something along the lines of a tax strike against the federal govt or possibly internal government divide, with local govts operating outside of states and feds. Not sure how it would work but it certainly cant be anything like the civil war with marching armies and uniforms etc.
Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America - a book published in 1996 predicted these riots almost to the day
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How does a tax strike even work? Everyone's on a w2
I have no idea but something monetary based seems the only way to rebel under these cirumstances. Although on second thought a taxation strike is ridiculous as the feds would never allow their serf bounty to be threatened.
It may be lucky for whoever is in charge that the Chinese are going to do the war-starting for them.
Easy_C
Peacock
that's what everyone's been saying.
Probably the closest comparable is going to be Afghanistan because it has a very similar city/rural divide in terms of political alignment. Some similar geographic consideration also exit because of things like the existance of "urban beltways" where flatlands connect cities but are bordered by difficult terrain, mountainous areas high enough to give helicopters operating challenges while being largely impassible to armored vehicles, and logistical challenges due to a need to rely on rural roads that are easily sabotaged.
Easy_C
Peacock
Keep in mind what happens in practice is nobody “wins”. The likely outcome is regional strongmen end up in control of different areas with ongoing border clashes between the two. This state of affairs would likely continue for a long time with one or more become vassal states of foreign powers (r.g. Israel, China, Russia).
Something that analysis above doesn't take into consideration is AI and manned drones/vehicles/machines being used. The government with the tech elites could have a bunch of decentralized air and ground drones working to disrupt things from afar. That could really tip the balance of power against an armed rebellion.
Jsjtwylight
Robin
I domt think there will be a civil war and if so it will be short. A few things that are being overlooked.
1.The current population can not stomach a prolonged war. Look at how many veterans off themselves or have ptsd and are barely functioning. Those are the trained individuals how do you think your instagram addict or netflix Binger would fair. This isn't a population that is used to committing or receiving violence. This is not the middle east, africa or China, all areas whose populations have a history of warfare on their own soil. The majority of the population would lick the boots of whichever force can turn the "internet" back on faster then you can say super bowl
2.Despite having weapons most are not trained to use them and even if they are pinging a metal plate is not the same as shooting flesh and blood. The only ones who would be able to stomach that are vets, military, and trained militia. Most of the gun purchases in the last 6 months are from terrified citizens that probably thought before the current riots "I dont need a gun".
3. Defining the enemy would be difficult. Despite what people claim they will go with the majority. Most of the people protesting are connected through school, friends, and common interests. Same thing can be said with the majority of both the left and the right. Those are great if you are winning a popularity contest but not that reliable when your facing possible starvation, rape , or murder. Once bullets start firing mom and dad will get off their lazy behind and tell Britney to stop messing around with her friends in the street and come home, especially if infrastructure starts getting hit. How do you know whose a Democrat or republican from the outside through a scope?
3. The international community could not allow us to be in chaos for an extended amount of time. Financially we have our hands in alot of pockets and if this country fell alot more would begin to crumble due to our lack of protection, resources, and influence. Even our enemies would need us to get back on our feet just so they can have an enemy to fight against.
I could be wrong about all 3 points but I seriously doubt our population has the stomach and drive to sustain a chaotic guerilla style civil war just because we disagree on trans rights or rather or not we should have a border wall. I hope I'm not wrong.
1.The current population can not stomach a prolonged war. Look at how many veterans off themselves or have ptsd and are barely functioning. Those are the trained individuals how do you think your instagram addict or netflix Binger would fair. This isn't a population that is used to committing or receiving violence. This is not the middle east, africa or China, all areas whose populations have a history of warfare on their own soil. The majority of the population would lick the boots of whichever force can turn the "internet" back on faster then you can say super bowl
2.Despite having weapons most are not trained to use them and even if they are pinging a metal plate is not the same as shooting flesh and blood. The only ones who would be able to stomach that are vets, military, and trained militia. Most of the gun purchases in the last 6 months are from terrified citizens that probably thought before the current riots "I dont need a gun".
3. Defining the enemy would be difficult. Despite what people claim they will go with the majority. Most of the people protesting are connected through school, friends, and common interests. Same thing can be said with the majority of both the left and the right. Those are great if you are winning a popularity contest but not that reliable when your facing possible starvation, rape , or murder. Once bullets start firing mom and dad will get off their lazy behind and tell Britney to stop messing around with her friends in the street and come home, especially if infrastructure starts getting hit. How do you know whose a Democrat or republican from the outside through a scope?
3. The international community could not allow us to be in chaos for an extended amount of time. Financially we have our hands in alot of pockets and if this country fell alot more would begin to crumble due to our lack of protection, resources, and influence. Even our enemies would need us to get back on our feet just so they can have an enemy to fight against.
I could be wrong about all 3 points but I seriously doubt our population has the stomach and drive to sustain a chaotic guerilla style civil war just because we disagree on trans rights or rather or not we should have a border wall. I hope I'm not wrong.
Easy_C
Peacock
A lot of that is because they’re coming home to socially broken environments.
For the rest of them, a lot of Afghanistan’s population was heavily effeminized like that. That’s why you’ll get a prolonged asymmetric conflict and not anything decisive.
poster153712646
Robin
Black and brown people are the easiest to rile up into murderous rage against whitey, which is why BLM is happening.
What we might see: Food shortages that gets non minority people into starvation and fighting each other, only guaranteed food for big city dwellers but vegan meat replacement / lab grown / soylent, no jobs for white men there, big cities full of hostile minorities.
Fuel shortages probably as well to boost the total satanic surveilance vehicle that is Tesla and not enough electric vehicle charging stations to make it across country.
Use your imagination on how to terrorize a nation.
We'll see different flavors in different countries but the eco gulag is real...
What we might see: Food shortages that gets non minority people into starvation and fighting each other, only guaranteed food for big city dwellers but vegan meat replacement / lab grown / soylent, no jobs for white men there, big cities full of hostile minorities.
Fuel shortages probably as well to boost the total satanic surveilance vehicle that is Tesla and not enough electric vehicle charging stations to make it across country.
Use your imagination on how to terrorize a nation.
We'll see different flavors in different countries but the eco gulag is real...
Remember this?
cdllife.com
Everyone else's predictions here are as good as mine- hell I predicted no 2020 debates and turned out dead wrong. Food logistics is pretty important, though.
All the workarounds that the cabal would brainstorm to stick it to pissed off truckers have to remember that it doesn't have to be a super disciplined strike. Even sporadic disruptions would wreak havoc on inventory not to mention prices in places like San Francisco and NYC. Getting a bunch of government goons to usurp CDL trucking or setting up self-driving vehicles is going to take a little time. A little time is too much when the brave new americans that fill our population centers nowadays have a patience fuse of say...seventy two hours.
'No police, no delivery': Trucking co. owner tells Fox News his drivers won't deliver to defunded cities
On Wednesday, the owner of an Illinois trucking company appeared on a popular cable news show to talk about steps that he is taking to keep his employees safe.
cdllife.com
Everyone else's predictions here are as good as mine- hell I predicted no 2020 debates and turned out dead wrong. Food logistics is pretty important, though.
All the workarounds that the cabal would brainstorm to stick it to pissed off truckers have to remember that it doesn't have to be a super disciplined strike. Even sporadic disruptions would wreak havoc on inventory not to mention prices in places like San Francisco and NYC. Getting a bunch of government goons to usurp CDL trucking or setting up self-driving vehicles is going to take a little time. A little time is too much when the brave new americans that fill our population centers nowadays have a patience fuse of say...seventy two hours.
the truth in plain black & white
Except that the overwhelming majority of BLM and Antifa thugs that are "riled up and raging" are green and purple haired white millenials and zoomers from middle class families
Easy_C
Peacock
At first it wasn’t.
That did appear to be the strategy but it’s also obvious that wasn’t going to work in a bigger event because different melanated races immediately turned on each other within 48 hours of kickoff.
Right now a lot of the muscle seems to be coming from ex-cons. That one makes a lot of sense because they’re a captive audience with very few prospects and histories of psychopathy.
From Kenosha and other places; the odds that almost every high profile arrest at an ANTIFA organized event has a felony record are very, very, low.
That did appear to be the strategy but it’s also obvious that wasn’t going to work in a bigger event because different melanated races immediately turned on each other within 48 hours of kickoff.
Right now a lot of the muscle seems to be coming from ex-cons. That one makes a lot of sense because they’re a captive audience with very few prospects and histories of psychopathy.
From Kenosha and other places; the odds that almost every high profile arrest at an ANTIFA organized event has a felony record are very, very, low.
On a w2 you can select to have no income tax to be withheld and pay at the end of the year, I believe. I think they take social security out no matter what though.