Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America - a book published in 1996 predicted these riots almost to the day

Easy_C

Crow
I hardly see Coulter as right wing. All she does is complain about Trump. Trump builds 200 miles of a border and this is not enough for Coulter. Trump reduces immigration to U.S. and Coulter complains that it is not enough. Admittedly, I have not read any of her books. But, I don't see her as being on the right's side.
I disagree significantly because Coulter is the one speaking truth here. Being satisfied with Trump's hot air isn't "not being conservative", it's being uncompromisingly conservative which is the only kind of conservative that has a chance of accomplishing anything.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
You can be "uncompromisingly conservative" all you want, but enacting an "uncompromisingly conservative" agenda as President only works if you also have at least 60 of 100 "uncompromisingly conservative" U.S. Senators and at least 218 "uncompromisingly conservative" U.S. Congressmen. Yet, President Trump has had neither.

That is what makes these claims that he is not "uncompromisingly conservative" so insufferably stupid. He has acted brilliantly within the sphere of what he can actually accomplish as the chief executive. Even then, he must battle never-ending lawsuits strategically filed in liberal venues.

The brilliance of Ronald Reagan was that he could use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to force bipartisan change. Those days are long gone, because the Democrats are now full-fledged socialists who no longer compromise, because their base is literally insane.

The problem is that most voters do not understand how the political process works in the U.S. Foreigners can be forgiven. For Americans who spout this bilge, they are just as culpable for the nation's downfall as the Democrats. To see who ruined America, they should simply look in the mirror.
 
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Ironside

Sparrow
You can be "uncompromisingly conservative" all you want, but enacting an "uncompromisingly conservative" agenda as President only works if you also have at least 60 of 100 "uncompromisingly conservative" U.S. Senators and at least 218 "uncompromisingly conservative" U.S. Congressmen. Yet, President Trump has had neither.

That is what makes these claims that he is not "uncompromisingly conservative" so insufferably stupid. He has acted brilliantly within the sphere of what he can actually accomplish as the chief executive. Even then, he must battle never-ending lawsuits strategically filed in liberal venues.

The brilliance of Ronald Reagan was that he could use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to force bipartisan change. Those days are long gone, because the Democrats are now full-fledged socialists who no longer compromise, because their base is literally insane.

The problem is that most voters do not understand how the political process works in the U.S. Foreigners can be forgiven. For Americans who spout this bilge, they are just as culpable for the nation's downfall as the Democrats. To see who ruined America, they should simply look in the mirror.
Coulter is correct though. If the country were 90-95% ethnic European, such policies would have no problem being passed. The 'president' would not have any issue ordering a directive that protected 90% of the population. It becomes a problem when the president issues a directive that protects 56% of the population (and the remaining 44% see it as a direct attack on them).
Nevermind issuing a directive that protects 50% of the population
You'd have to issue a directive that aggressively favors 46% of the population then.
What a ludicrous proposal. I see people going on youtube and commenting on great depression recipes with their normal 'woke' liberal mindset. Oh dear we gotta save money! Yeah, the great depression hit when the country was bound by ethnic solidatiry, when everyone becomes poor do you honestly think you can grow cabbages in your backyard and make meals for your kids with hot dogs? Anyone with a shred of sense will realize that YOU will be the fucking hot dogs.
 

STG

Sparrow
The under 30 generation is an entirely different "country" and will have very little in common with the previous European generations.

https://apnews.com/a3600edf620ccf2759080d00f154c069

Census shows white decline, nonwhite majority among youngest
By MIKE SCHNEIDERtoday


FILE - In this Aug. 22, 2019, file photo, people walk through New York's Times Square. The population of non-Hispanic whites in the U.S. has gotten smaller in the past decade as deaths have surpassed births in this aging demographic, and a majority of the population under age 16 is nonwhite for the first time though they are fewer in number than a decade ago, according to new figures released Thursday, June 25, 2020, by the U.S. Census Bureau. (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews, File)

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — For the generation of Americans not yet old enough to drive, the demographic future has arrived.
For the first time, nonwhites and Hispanics were a majority of people under age 16 in 2019, an expected demographic shift that will grow over the coming decades, according to figures released by the U.S. Census Bureau on Thursday.
“We are browning from bottom up in our age structure,” said William Frey, a senior fellow at The Brookings Institution. “This is going to be a diversified century for the United States, and it’s beginning with this youngest generation.”

At the same time, the number of non-Hispanic whites in the U.S. has gotten smaller in the past decade as deaths surpassed births in this aging demographic, according to the Census Bureau population estimates.

Since 2010, the number of whites who aren’t Hispanic had dropped by more than 16,600 people. But the decline has been escalating in the past three years, with the number of non-Hispanic whites dropping by more than a half million people from 2016 to 2019, according to the Census Bureau population estimates.

In 2019, a little under 40% of the total U.S. population was either nonwhite or Hispanic. Non-Hispanic whites are expected to be a minority of the U.S. population in about 25 years.

A natural decrease from the number of deaths exceeding births, plus a slowdown in immigration to the U.S., contributed to the population drop since 2010 for non-Hispanic whites, whose median age of 43.7 last year was by far the highest of any demographic group. If these numbers hold for the 2020 census being conducted right now, it will be the first time since the first decennial census in 1790 that there has been a national decline of whites, Frey said.

“It’s aging. Of course, we didn’t have a lot of immigration, that has gone down,” Frey said. “White fertility has gone down.”
In fact, the decrease in births among the white population has led to a dip in the number of people under age 18 in the past decade, a drop exacerbated by the fact that the much larger Millennial cohort has aged out of that group, replaced by a smaller Generation Z.
Over the past decade, Asians had the biggest growth rate of any demographic group, increasing by almost 30%. Almost two-thirds of that growth was driven by international migration.

The Hispanic population grew by 20% since 2010, with almost three-quarters of that growth coming from a natural increase that comes when more people are born than die.

The Black population grew by almost 12% over the decade, and the white population increased by 4.3%.
The nation’s seniors have swelled since 2010 as Baby Boomers aged into that demographic, with the number of people over age 65 increasing by more than a third. Seniors in 2019 made up more than 16% of the U.S. population, compared to 13% in 2010.
In four states — Maine, Florida, West Virginia and Vermont — seniors accounted for 20% of the population. That’s a benchmark that the overall U.S. population is expected to reach by 2030.
“The first Baby Boomers reached 65 years old in 2011,” said Luke Rogers, chief of the Census Bureau’s Population Estimates Branch. “No other age group saw such a fast increase.”
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Coulter is correct though. If the country were 90-95% ethnic European, such policies would have no problem being passed. The 'president' would not have any issue ordering a directive that protected 90% of the population. It becomes a problem when the president issues a directive that protects 56% of the population (and the remaining 44% see it as a direct attack on them).
Nevermind issuing a directive that protects 50% of the population
You'd have to issue a directive that aggressively favors 46% of the population then.
What a ludicrous proposal. I see people going on youtube and commenting on great depression recipes with their normal 'woke' liberal mindset. Oh dear we gotta save money! Yeah, the great depression hit when the country was bound by ethnic solidatiry, when everyone becomes poor do you honestly think you can grow cabbages in your backyard and make meals for your kids with hot dogs? Anyone with a shred of sense will realize that YOU will be the fucking hot dogs.
In regard to immigration, of course Coulter is correct, which is why I "liked" the article. To the degree that she believes that President is some kind of magician that can somehow Svengali the communist freaks in Congress, she is delusional -- although I agree that his messaging to the mushy middle can vastly improve.
 
As far as Coulter goes, at least she is highly critical of her own sex.

She is on tape saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote and that women shouldn't be allowed in police.

I think most here can appreciate how extremely rare such insights are with women.

I like her, she is a Germanic archetype, a valkyrie. Coulter clashing with Trump is just two germanic alpha types clashing.

In Norse mythology, the valkyrie selects among the slain, those who will join Odin in Valhalla. The symbolism is clear, ultimately a mans bravery shall be decided by how much the women cry when he is dead. They used to have wailing women in Italy, maybe they still do. Serves the same purpose.

Trump then has his valkyrie in Coulter. Does he want Omarosa to kiss his ass and betray him? He gets Coulter who will tell him just how far he is from making it to Valhalla. This illustration shows how Trump should metaphorically respond.

 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
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That is what makes these claims that he is not "uncompromisingly conservative" so insufferably stupid. He has acted brilliantly within the sphere of what he can actually accomplish as the chief executive. Even then, he must battle never-ending lawsuits strategically filed in liberal venues.
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I don't see how anyone could hold this position on the matter. In fact I would say the opposite. Trump routinely tosses softball EOs that are easy to block. He has no apparent command of the armed forces. He appoints swamp creature after swamp creature. About the only thing anyone can give him credit for was his ability to keep stocks high for the 10 whole percent of Americans who owned a non-negligible amount of them.

But worst of all was that he didn't leverage the most simple power granted to him. To lead the people of America in the real sense of giving them instructions and trusting them to follow through on them. To tell them who their enemies are and give them a license to defend the nation and its true inheritors.

He leads the nation like it's a reality television show.

"Here's me doing some stuff. Tune in next week to see what whacky adventures I get into this time. By the way, don't forget to check out those fantastic black employment numbers!"

He's a great entertainer and perhaps a great businessman, but he's a shit leader and a shit President.
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
Tail Gunner thinks Communism is a Russian/German and Chinese plot to take over the world. He also does not believe Karl Marx is a real Jew.

Take everything he writes with a grain of salt or observe him as a troll like I do.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I've got not overall beef with Tailgunner. I think if we lived next door to each other we'd probably never discuss these subtleties and we'd both be pointing our guns in the same direction when the mobs came for us. Such is the nature of the internet. It reveals our differences more than our similarities. Ironically me letting my grass grow too long and keeping derelict cars in my front yard might flip him from constitutional democrat to fascist, though.

I do think past a certain age most people will not consider re-scrutinizing their assumptions about the world and the people in it, though. Gen-Xers are reachable on stuff like the JQ. Boomers and Boomerkin are 99% impervious to it.

 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Tail Gunner thinks Communism is a Russian/German and Chinese plot to take over the world. He also does not believe Karl Marx is a real Jew.

Take everything he writes with a grain of salt or observe him as a troll like I do.
You misconstrued what I stated. I stated that communism originated in Germany and Russia (philosophically in Germany and placed into practice in Russia). This is 100% accurate as a matter of historical fact. I never stated that Karl Marx was not racially Jewish, I simply reaffirmed that he was German and that communism as a doctrine originated in Germany, which was my original point.

If you want to add the fact that Karl Marx was Jewish, I have no problem with that -- but that does not cancel out the fact that he was a German citizen who lived in Germany, which is also where he wrote The Communist Manifesto. Moreover, Engels was an ethnic German. If we cannot agree about such basic historical facts, then we are not any better than the communists who ignore history by destroying our historical monuments.

Certain people want to fixate on (((them))) to the exclusion of everything else -- and they consider anyone who does not do the same to be an enemy. Meanwhile, I want the whole story placed in its full historical context and I will absolutely not ignore history just to advance a particular agenda.

BTW: You may want to actually read the definition of a troll, as it applies to you far more than it does to me. I am the one insisting on facts, while you want to ignore historical facts to push an agenda.
 
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Easy_C

Crow
All this said:

I think the ideal outcome is if the left can be persuaded to enact this California secession they're discussing and that a lot of the grasroots left wants because they actually believe that the USA as a whole is just dragging down California, Portland, and Seattle which will be utopias if they can shed the deadweight. As long as we don't have an open border this allows them to congregate in their own zone, takes away their power over everyone else to dictate to them, and gives them a place to congregate away from people who don't want a violent revolution and are likely to start shooting if it comes to their doorstop.

Short version: it's our best hope at a peaceful resolution.
 

Ironside

Sparrow
All this said:

I think the ideal outcome is if the left can be persuaded to enact this California secession they're discussing and that a lot of the grasroots left wants because they actually believe that the USA as a whole is just dragging down California, Portland, and Seattle which will be utopias if they can shed the deadweight. As long as we don't have an open border this allows them to congregate in their own zone, takes away their power over everyone else to dictate to them, and gives them a place to congregate away from people who don't want a violent revolution and are likely to start shooting if it comes to their doorstop.

Short version: it's our best hope at a peaceful resolution.
Yeah, that's what the rank and file brainwashed leftists want, that is absolutely not what the organizers and financiers want, and they will beat the shit out of their rank and file until they adhere to their will.
They do not want the breakdown of the United States, because right now there are far too many white men with military training and guns to push for balkanization, and they absolutely do not want white men with guns starting to fight, and every effort is made to dissuade them from doing so - not only state sanctioned attacks on them, but massive psyop campaigns convincing them to 'stay home and let the left eat itself'. They want white men to charge into battle like some delusional Aragorn type figure imaging himself taking down Sauron - the LAST thing it wants is for white men to realize that they are engaged in a total war, and to get into the mindset that's been instilled on the opponents of Western civilization. They are in a state of total war, and they are super dedicated to keeping you in a state of complacency - porn, youtube videos, twtitter, random e-celebs, etc. The last thing they want is white men fighting back and divesting themself and their families/communities from this rotten system (and by fighting back I don't mean grab the AR15 and start randomly shooting).
You want a reasonable projection? Most of us have been so demoralized and atomized at this point that the idea of some major movement popping up is ludicrous - you have a neighbour? Go play cards with him. Bite your fucking tongue, just go play cards. When shit gets fucked up, who is he going to turn to for help, some random person he didn't know, or the guy who played cards with him and treated him like a human being?
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
You misconstrued what I stated. I stated that communism originated in Germany and Russia (philosophically in Germany and placed into practice in Russia). This is 100% accurate as a matter of historical fact. I never stated that Karl Marx was not racially Jewish, I simply reaffirmed that he was German and that communism as a doctrine originated in Germany, which was my original point.

If you want to add the fact that Karl Marx was Jewish, I have no problem with that -- but that does not cancel out the fact that he was a German citizen who lived in Germany, which is also where he wrote The Communist Manifesto. Moreover, Engels was an ethnic German. If we cannot agree about such basic historical facts, then we are not any better than the communists who ignore history by destroying our historical monuments.

Certain people want to fixate on (((them))) to the exclusion of everything else -- and they consider anyone who does not do the same to be an enemy. Meanwhile, I want the whole story placed in its full historical context and I will absolutely not ignore history just to advance a particular agenda.

BTW: You may want to actually read the definition of a troll, as it applies to you far more than it does to me. I am the one insisting on facts, while you want to ignore historical facts to push an agenda.
Il make it short. You are the reason we can never win because you hide, obfuscate or refuse to see the enemy. You're effectively working for the enemy. Willingly or unwillingly. It doesnt really matter.
 
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