Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America - a book published in 1996 predicted these riots almost to the day

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
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Il make it short. You are the reason we can never win because you hide, obfuscate or refuse to see the enemy. You're effectively working for the enemy. Willingly or unwillingly. It doesnt really matter.
I cite irrefutable history and simple facts -- and that is too much for you to bear. People like you, who never provide hard facts, have others chasing ghosts and goblins rather than engaging in the real world. Which begs the question: if you believe that these ghouls are so omnipotent, then why bother doing anything at all?

Yes, of course there is a worldwide web of powerful aligned interests that sometimes work in league with each other and just as often oppose each other (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, and hundreds of other wealthy and powerful families, some of which are Jewish and many of which are not).

Given human nature, how could it be otherwise? Before the bankers and industrialists, it was the nobles and the royalty. Anyone with any intelligence can figure this out. So, knowing this fact, how does it help you? How do you fight hidden trillionaires (e.g., the Rothschilds)? You don't. You can't.

But you can work within the system to do the best that you can -- or, eventually, you can possibly establish a new system. But erasing established facts and history -- as you have tried to do -- is a losing proposition, because you simply destroy your own credibility. It is self-defeating.

You are exactly like the BLM crowd blaming Whitey for their many ills, when the problem is actually within their own community with their lack of family structure, out-of-wedlock births, fixation on rap music and gangster culture, etc. You are doing exactly the same thing, by always blaming (((them))). If you blame one group for absolutely everything when, in fact, the world's problems stem from a complex system of many intricate competing interests, then you cannot solve the problem -- because, just like BLM, you have not properly identified the problem. Like BLM, you oversimplify very complex problems (i.e., gee, if we can just get rid of (((them))) or "Whitey" then all our problems are solved, hooray!).
 
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Sword and Board

Woodpecker
You're not stating irrefutable history. You're deliberately shielding and obfuscating Jewish creation, involvement, revolution, propagation and funding of communism and downplaying their power structure as insignificant.
 

Tail Gunner

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You're not stating irrefutable history. You're deliberately shielding and obfuscating Jewish creation, involvement, revolution, propagation and funding of communism and downplaying their power structure as insignificant.
You are a liar.

What was my original point? What started all this? I stated that communism, as we know it today, originated in Germany and Russia (philosophically in Germany and placed into practice in Russia). This is 100% accurate as a matter of historical fact. You have not proven otherwise.

I also acknowledged the Rothschilds as a hidden trillionaire family (possibly the only trillionaire family in the world) and part of a complex worldwide power structure. Apparently, you want to let the other 80% of the non-Jewish bankers who are destroying the world's financial system off the hook.

 
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Easy_C

Crow
The best lesson to learn is from how China appears to be:

China's economic system is not designed to be fair. For this, I'll discuss China as it was ~3-4 years ago and ignore recent developments.

China has an interesting policy in regards to foreigners. They allow foreigners to participate in the economy and create somewhat. Being a corporate employee or running a small business they tolerated and somewhat encouraged in urban areas (they discouraged foreigners from venturing outside of major cities through things like requiring hotels to have foreigner licenses). The flip side of that is that they make it extremely difficult to impossible for foreigners to have any operational control over business ventures: the ability of foreigners to acquire equity is severely limited, firms starting ventures in China are required to do so by starting a joint venture that will be majority owned by a Chinese firm, foreigners are not generally allowed to be at any executive level in business, and they do not allow any significant form of capital markets investments (debt or voting equity) that would allow foreigners to gain influence over the operations of any Chinese firm.

Additionally Western media and social media access is heavily restricted.

These steps are designed to make it extremely difficult for anyone except ethnic Chinese to have significant influence over Chinese business, finance, government, or public discourse.

Granted my extremely negative assessment of them remains and their persecution of the church requires me to view them as an adversary, but there are lessons that can be learned about how to prevent the infiltration the US has experienced from happening again. Just because we have free enterprise doesn't mean we need to do things like allowing Private Equity firms owned by dual citizens to snap up our own domestic businesses and loot them for quick trading profits, nor do we need to allow foreign governments to use business entities that they effectively control to operate freely in the United States(e.g. Tik Tok, Facebook) and in so doing gain control over public discourse.
 

Leonard D Neubache

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Their persecution of Christianity is actually also an (unfortunate) thing which ought to be emulated after it's flipped.

Western nations need to bite the bullet and say "any Christian denomination you like, to any extent you want to participate, but anything else and you're politely exiled."

If you can't sit down on a lie detector test and get a positive on "I am an ethnic Christian" then you have to go back.

The founding fathers of the USA for example only provided for religious freedom because they didn't want rival Christian denominations persecuting one another. The idea that they wanted protections for Jews and Muslims is laughable.
 

pitbullowner

Kingfisher
stated that communism

Marxism, was created by a jewish origin family that was probably cryptic....anti-semitism is well known code for anti white

>Karl Marx, the son of Hirschel and Henrietta Marx, was born in Trier, Germany, in 1818. Hirschel Marx was a lawyer and to escape anti-Semitismdecided to abandon his Jewish faith when Karl was a child. Although the majority of people living in Trier were Catholics, Marx decided to become a Protestant. He also changed his name from Hirschel to Heinrich.

yeah,definitely crypto jewery going on there.
 
I don't see how anyone could hold this position on the matter. In fact I would say the opposite. Trump routinely tosses softball EOs that are easy to block. He has no apparent command of the armed forces. He appoints swamp creature after swamp creature. About the only thing anyone can give him credit for was his ability to keep stocks high for the 10 whole percent of Americans who owned a non-negligible amount of them.

But worst of all was that he didn't leverage the most simple power granted to him. To lead the people of America in the real sense of giving them instructions and trusting them to follow through on them. To tell them who their enemies are and give them a license to defend the nation and its true inheritors.

He leads the nation like it's a reality television show.

"Here's me doing some stuff. Tune in next week to see what whacky adventures I get into this time. By the way, don't forget to check out those fantastic black employment numbers!"

He's a great entertainer and perhaps a great businessman, but he's a shit leader and a shit President.
You should give Trump his due on trade and foreign policy. He's moved consistently in the right direction, even if it's not as far as some nationalists would have hoped.

The founding fathers of the USA for example only provided for religious freedom because they didn't want rival Christian denominations persecuting one another. The idea that they wanted protections for Jews and Muslims is laughable.
Jefferson was for universal religious protection. I believe he specifically mentioned Muslims. I can't say for certain about the others and Jefferson's opinion may not have been centrist, but I don't think he was an extreme outlier in his opinion.
I'm not sure the Jewish Question was something anyone, or at least very many, in the Founding generation thought about. I think the Jews that lived here were afforded all protections, and I've never heard of there being much debate on the issue. Anti-Semitism came to America with the waves of post-Civil War immigrants.
That said, I agree with you that immigration into the US should be tied to some basic form of Christian practice, even if it's only celebrating Christmas.
 

Tail Gunner

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I'm not sure the Jewish Question was something anyone, or at least very many, in the Founding generation thought about. I think the Jews that lived here were afforded all protections, and I've never heard of there being much debate on the issue. Anti-Semitism came to America with the waves of post-Civil War immigrants.
Not that too many people here care much for facts or history, but Haym Salomon was the Jewish banker who funded much of the American Revolution. I am sure that people will jump in here and argue how the American Revolution was a vast Jewish conspiracy against the downtrodden European monarchs but, once again, it is an unalterable historical fact that a Jewish banker financed much of the American Revolution.


As Leonard stated in another thread, not all black folk are bad people. Nor are all Jews bad people. It is not controversial to admit that basic fact. In fact, as Christians we must learn the lesson of the parable of the good Samaritan. The Samaritans, as a group, were a vicious and cruel people, but one good Samaritan rendered aid to an Israelite who had been left for dead by bandits, even when the Israelite's fellow countrymen walked past his beaten and bloodied prostrate form on the road and ignored his life-threatening distress.

“Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the man who was attacked by bandits?” Jesus asked. The man replied, “The one who showed him mercy.”
Luke 10:30-37
 
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Not that too many people here care much for facts or history, but Haym Salomon was the Jewish banker who funded much of the American Revolution. I am sure that people will jump in here and argue how the American Revolution was a vast Jewish conspiracy against the downtrodden European monarchs but, once again, it is an unalterable historical fact that a Jewish banker financed much of the American Revolution.


As Leonard stated in another thread, not all black folk are bad people. Nor are all Jews bad people. It is not controversial to admit that basic fact. In fact, as Christians we must learn the lesson of the parable of the good Samaritan. The Samaritans, as a group, were a vicious and cruel people, but one good Samaritan rendered aid to an Israelite who had been left for dead by bandits, even when the Israelite's fellow countrymen walked past his beaten and bloodied prostrate form on the road and ignored his life-threatening distress.



Luke 10:30-37
My understanding is that the limited number of Jews in America before the Civil War were of a different stock than the Eastern European Jews who flooded in during the post-Civil War immigration waves.
 
Haym Solomon, who you mentioned, was a Sephardic Jew. I seem to remember reading that a good portion of the early Jews in America were of that group rather than the Ashkenazi.
Both of the high profile Jewish US Senators who became prominent Confederate politicians, Judah Benjamin and David Yulee, were also Sephardic.
 
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Haym Solomon, who you mentioned, was a Sephardic Jew. I seem to remember reading that a good portion of the early Jews in America were of that group rather than the Ashkenazi.
Both of the high profile Jewish US Senators who became prominent Confederate politicians, Judah Benjamin and David Yulee, were also Sephardic.
In the Mediterranean slave trade was largely ran by Arabs, but also Jews the same way the diamond trade was and is dominated by a few old Jewish families -though in other parts of the world it's other commercial ethnic groups like Gujarati Indians. The Sephardi Jews were from Spain- sometimes conversos ( after they were expelled) though Isabel explicitly said to not enslave those in the new world, she had little control over it. They probably came to the New World that way - and established themselves on the heal of the European colonizers. Askanazi Jews on the other hand were in East Europe and not really involved, though I think they got involved in tax farming - not a way to win friends among the peasants!
 

CynicalContrarian

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As before.
It is not a civil war in America.
It is a sinister campaign to undermine & subvert the West anywhere & everywhere.

AC :

Black Lives Matter activist ‘lost a testicle after being shot in the groin with a rubber bullet fired by LAPD officers during protests in Los Angeles.’ – The interesting part – “South African native Bradley Steyn, who was involved in anti-apartheid protests in South Africa when he was younger, claims the LAPD are responsible for his injuries, and he now plans to sue. ” So he was in South Africa stirring shit there, gets what he wants, picks up, moves to the US, and now here he is doing the exact same thing all these years later – active in a process designed and run by the same trans-national global conspiracy, with the same objective.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
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As Leonard stated in another thread, not all black folk are bad people. Nor are all Jews bad people. It is not controversial to admit that basic fact. In fact, as Christians we must learn the lesson of the parable of the good Samaritan. The Samaritans, as a group, were a vicious and cruel people, but one good Samaritan rendered aid to an Israelite who had been left for dead by bandits, even when the Israelite's fellow countrymen walked past his beaten and bloodied prostrate form on the road and ignored his life-threatening distress.
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While this is true on a micro level it's also irrelevant on a macro level. There are enough "good" asians, arabs, south americans and africans to flood the West and irrevocably destroy it's character, despite all those people being "good".

The same is also true of religions. There in no basis by which you can suffer "good" muslims without still fundamentally undermining your nation because common law cannot cater to Christian values AND muslim values at once, added to the fact that this generation's good muslims can produce next generations jihadis (or racial grievance-mongers in the case of the racial issue). Even two percent of the population being jewish has been enough to utterly ravage American culture and turn half the nation against the other half.

Diversity is not a strength, whether that diversity is of race or religion.

The good Samaritan was not owed a path to citizenship for his kind deeds. Good deeds are their own reward.
 
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