"Cobra Kai" YouTube Red series

Mess O.

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I'm finding it interesting so far. There's a purposeful blurring of the defining of just which side is the protagonist. Amazing, the raw span of time since the original clash, so it makes for a truly unique platform. Now, surely, someone must've considered bringing back Sensei Kreese, Mr. Silver, and Chozen. Really, that's gotta happen.
 

Checkmat

Pelican
I am in love with this show. It’s very self-aware with it’s sometimes corny writing and nostalgia, but also has some VERY heavy-hitting writing and complex characters. Nobody is “good” or “bad” in this series.

Definitely watch. It skewers both hyper-masculinity and liberal PC culture in equal doses, which I found pretty entertaining.
 

Renzy

Pelican
Watched this on a whim today and gotta admit - it was really good. Like someone else mentioned, I'm surprised such a SJW company produced a show like this...
 
Took a look. Compared to current-year SJW garbage it has some good points. But the propaganda goes deep.

Essentially you have the anti-immigration Alpha asshole become a semi-SJW over multiple seasons. You have to remember that they are drawing this out over multiple generations.

The bad:

+ The fat black girl is supposedly a high-IQ nerd
+ The girl also competes in the male competition??!
+ I don't mind that he is now training the Ecuadorian kid - but the open-borders propaganda is noted
+ always the bully is the whitest blondest girl
+ they created a Burger King kids club bully gang headed by an Asian kid - this is not by coincidence
+ the Asians are going to get their Asian privilege right after Whites
+ White guy is so stupid and in the 1980s that he does not even know what the internet is and what Facebook is. How the fuck did he sleep in the 90s and 00s?
+ LaRusso and his family in this case are the villains. Imagine this - the villain Russo beats the bully in the tournament and the bully at the end even admits that Daniel was alright and that he did not fight fair. LaRusso then becomes a successful millionaire with a loving wife and kids. The defeated Cobra Kai champion somehow gets his previous wins forgotten, becomes a total loser who has dead-end jobs, who marries a slutting whoring woman. He somehow barely meets his intelligent talented good-looking son (Because white men are shit.) Then after all this and after Daniel being the winner and blond white guy being the total loser - this Daniel gets triggered after seeing Cobra Kai. He then raises the rent of Cobra Kai to ruin his business and affect all others in the mall. He talks shit of him constantly and attempts to kick someone who is in the gutter - to kick him even more. No mention that his cousin and his goons are even doing a criminal offense by destroying his car as meager as it was and attempt to assault and batter him with potentially deadly weapons.
+ the series constantly pushes this gender-SJW-anti-bullying crap while making a bit fun of it - don't be fooled, that will be ramped up subsequently - that is how good propaganda works
+ while the online bullying of the fat ugly girl is seen as bad, they push frequently the notion that men and women physically are ABSOLUTELY EQUAL! While the online bullying is bad note that she is the one who later in the series initiates the first physical contact - the black 200 pounds girl does a front-pussy wedgie on the blondest girl - the blonde did not put a finger on her and there was on physical danger. She takes revenge physically potentially injuring her vagina - everyone is laughing. Reminds me of all those girl-fights where the "ethnic" girls rip out hair of blonde girls in current-year USA. The SJW writers are clearly not up to date who is doing the bullying in our times ever more.

The good:
+ some anti SJW talking points, but they are depicted as going too far
+ when he says to the cleft boy LIP and tells him to harden up or do something to take the attention away from his cleft - that is the single best part of the entire series as the guy creates a mohawk haircut and gets the nick Hawk. Of course Hawk is Jewish, because only they are allowed to be Alpha. And he gets even a hot girl instantly.

Yeah - compared to the current unbearable 100% SJW crap you have a series with 60% propaganda and some good moments. But it's the usual crap of feminism, anti-White, anti-Western, pro-soy (Ralph Macchio can't act for shit and still has the body of the soy. William Zabka is actually a decent actor), pro Wakanda, pro mass immigration, kick the White guy in the face even while he is already lying in the gutter crap. They will also do an arc of how the Spaniard guy from South America becomes more evil and imbued with toxic masculinity only to be later saved from his toxicity.

So yeah - a good series for our times.
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
Gold Member
Mess O. said:
I'm finding it interesting so far. There's a purposeful blurring of the defining of just which side is the protagonist. Amazing, the raw span of time since the original clash, so it makes for a truly unique platform. Now, surely, someone must've considered bringing back Sensei Kreese, Mr. Silver, and Chozen. Really, that's gotta happen.


Sensei Kreese is campaigning for spot in the new season. I'm with him.
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
I think you're over analyzing Zel. The main emphasis in the series is the importance of a masculine authority or father in a boy's life. I'm only on episode 7 but so far it delivers.
 

Hermetic Seal

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Gold Member
Watched the first two episodes, really impressed by how much I'm enjoying this so far. Few TV shows (or movies) really grab me, but there's something special going on here.
 

JohnKreese

Pelican
DarkTriad said:
Mess O. said:
I'm finding it interesting so far. There's a purposeful blurring of the defining of just which side is the protagonist. Amazing, the raw span of time since the original clash, so it makes for a truly unique platform. Now, surely, someone must've considered bringing back Sensei Kreese, Mr. Silver, and Chozen. Really, that's gotta happen.


Sensei Kreese is campaigning for spot in the new season. I'm with him.

Stop trying to speak for me!

I will be binge-watching the entire first season this week. I will provide my ever-important analysis shortly thereafter.

- Captain John Kreese, U.S. Army (Retired)
 
JohnKreese said:
DarkTriad said:
Mess O. said:
I'm finding it interesting so far. There's a purposeful blurring of the defining of just which side is the protagonist. Amazing, the raw span of time since the original clash, so it makes for a truly unique platform. Now, surely, someone must've considered bringing back Sensei Kreese, Mr. Silver, and Chozen. Really, that's gotta happen.


Sensei Kreese is campaigning for spot in the new season. I'm with him.

Stop trying to speak for me!

I will be binge-watching the entire first season this week. I will provide my ever-important analysis shortly thereafter.

- Captain John Kreese, U.S. Army (Retired)

Martin Kove is still looking good at age 72 - the age where Mr. Miyagi was already gone.

[img=600x600]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...1200px-Martin_Kove_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg[/img]
 

JohnKreese

Pelican
Zelcorpion said:
JohnKreese said:
DarkTriad said:
Mess O. said:
I'm finding it interesting so far. There's a purposeful blurring of the defining of just which side is the protagonist. Amazing, the raw span of time since the original clash, so it makes for a truly unique platform. Now, surely, someone must've considered bringing back Sensei Kreese, Mr. Silver, and Chozen. Really, that's gotta happen.


Sensei Kreese is campaigning for spot in the new season. I'm with him.

Stop trying to speak for me!

I will be binge-watching the entire first season this week. I will provide my ever-important analysis shortly thereafter.

- Captain John Kreese, U.S. Army (Retired)

Martin Kove is still looking good at age 72 - the age where Mr. Miyagi was already gone.

* "Out of commission..."
 

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Pelican
Gold Member
Finished this series in 2 days. Loved it.

Yes, there were some SJW elements sprinkled in, but that's almost to be expected nowadays. At least Johnny keeps it RP: "Girls aren't allowed to take Karate....for the same reason they aren't allowed in the Army: it doesn't make sense."
 

la bodhisattva

Kingfisher
The only SJW crap I noticed was the obligatory "girl can physically handle herself against boys" narrative but it was at least shown in passing (except the ridiculous Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon move from Daniel's daughter). I felt all the gender-bending, one love, PC shit was very self-aware. If the writers intended for the audience to take their SJW "propaganda" seriously, they failed in a spectacular fashion...but I firmly believe they were in on the joke.

Overall, great series. Zabka and Macchio were surprisingly good comedic actors. Zabka's dry delivery verbal put-downs were especially great.
 

Duke Castile

Crow
Gold Member
I watched two episodes last night. Fucking awesome.

I like that Johnny is the lead character. I hated him when I was a kid. But, looking back he wasn't a bad dude at all.

I like that Cobra Kai was everything to him and then it was all gone after he lost the "All-Valley" championship.

He was a champion and he couldn't reconcile how he lost to Larusso when he did everything "right".

And it's true, Larusso would only beat him in a movie.

34 years later this is what through him off course but he's still stuck in the 80s. Drives an 80s Trans Am. Listens to music from then, etc.

Also it's pretty funny in parts.

Spoiler alert below!







The part I thought was really funny was when he's watching an 80s movie I can't think the name of now and there's this monologue by a deceased character the main good guy is listening to on his walkman while he's flying a jet into combat (LOL).

Anyway Johnny is getting into the whole monologue, it's really resonating with him, and right when the guy is about to get to the point and wrap it all up Lurusso's Dealership commercial comes on with Danial doing all sorts of cheesy "chops" to "chop these prices".

Johnny is triggered big time by this!

A lot of other great parts and references. I hope this show does well, I think it will. They bash millennials the whole time.
 

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Pelican
Gold Member
Fisto said:
Spoiler alert below!







The part I thought was really funny was when he's watching an 80s movie I can't think the name of now and there's this monologue by a deceased character the main good guy is listening to on his walkman while he's flying a jet into combat (LOL).

Anyway Johnny is getting into the whole monologue, it's really resonating with him, and right when the guy is about to get to the point and wrap it all up Lurusso's Dealership commercial comes on with Danial doing all sorts of cheesy "chops" to "chop these prices".

Johnny is triggered big time by this!

A lot of other great parts and references. I hope this show does well, I think it will. They bash millennials the whole time.

Iron Eagle.

And yeah, the call backs to the 80's are throughout the series. YouTube Red is free for 30 days, so you can sign up and finish the series without paying a dime.

I think it's either in Episode 7 or 8 and Johnny talks about his relationship with Ally and how Daniel (the new kid) moved there and fucked everything up. It's kind of tongue-in-cheek of course, but it's interesting to see it from Johnny's perspective.
 

Malone

Pelican
Gold Member
I watched the whole thing, damn that was good.

I'd heard the whole Danny was the villain theory before but Johnny's story about Ally sure made it seem plausible. The clips from the movie even support it!
 

Canopus

Kingfisher
So they took a 1980's cult classic that everyone had nearly forgotten about, and not only grew the existing characters in ways that value their original portrayals while moving them to the next legs of their journeys, but also introduced a "next gen" who take cues from the tone and spirit of the films while forming their own distinct identities, so you have a younger cast that's strong enough to carry the franchise forward, but room for the old cast to fulfill their stories and show they've still got it 30 years later.

And yet Disney cannot do this with Star Wars.

:wtf:
 

Brazilianguy

Woodpecker
Cobra Kai is fucking great!
I feel like Johnny in the way that I´m also stuck in the 80s, culturally speaking.

Aside from a few exceptions, I don´t watch modern films or series.
Now, after having watched Cobra Kai, I know this revulsion has nothing to do with technology, but with the values they endorse.

Cobra Kai promotes everything we hold dear here in RVF: inner and outer strength, self reliance, discipline, the ability to change one´s life around after being dragged through the gutter, being able to speak the truth rather than appease SJWs.

The only things I truly didn´t like about the series were: the fat girl beating the boy and Daniel´s daughter being a super badass ninja while her brother is a fat gamer nerd instead of the real heir to the karate kid.
Fortunately, girl power scenes are really brief and don´t have any real weight in the plot.
There´s a positive female character in Daniel´s wife, who´s shown as being a good home maker as well as beautiful and a good support to her husband´s company.

Cobra Kai is a masculine show for normal, straight guys.

The yuge success it´s reaping (18 million views in a week) is proof people are fed up with SJWism, feminism and political correctness.
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
Fisto said:
The part I thought was really funny was when he's watching an 80s movie I can't think the name of now and there's this monologue by a deceased character the main good guy is listening to on his walkman while he's flying a jet into combat (LOL).

Anyway Johnny is getting into the whole monologue, it's really resonating with him, and right when the guy is about to get to the point and wrap it all up Lurusso's Dealership commercial comes on with Danial doing all sorts of cheesy "chops" to "chop these prices".

Taking Louis Gossett Jr.'s speech in Iron Eagle and applying it to Johnny's modern character was brilliant.

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