Collapse in British Nightclubs

The thought of going into a night club now makes me cringe. The lines, the costs, the lack of sleep, the attitudes of the trash around me.

I miss some of my more local bars in SoCal that were lively community places. Music was low or non existent, cheap beers, cozy back patios.

Covid destroyed night life, probably for the better. Zoomers not being able to rage like it's 2015 in a club with little dark is a good thing.
If you repair, the nightlife maximizes the female sexual power (low lighting + high alcohol of men).
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
Teetub, there have been various studies describing that loud music increases anxiety, which causes men to purchase more alcohol.

It was men getting gamed all along and I’m not sad about the decline of the cock fest club.

Anxiety is exactly what I felt when going to those clubs with the music turned up to 11. You could never relax. Maybe that's why I was so bad at pick up...because I couldn't think straight due to the anxiety.

I seriously want to sue every club in my city and put them out of business. Maybe if I buy a noise meter and prove that these places are harming people's hearing, I'll have a case.
 

DrCotard

Woodpecker
Gold Member
There are a million and one reasons; it's a death by a thousand cuts scenario. I have friends who own nightclub businesses from small clubs to large chains; none are doing very well. I live in a 1,000,000+ city and Friday nights are so quiet it's eerie. 10 years ago I would go out Thursday/Friday/Saturday and the city was jumping each night.

In no significant order:

The smoking ban. It may have happened nearly 10 years ago but the clubs never recovered from this.

The credit crunch. So many people partied the naughties away on borrowed money and house price inflation money. Almost overnight I went from seeing Cristal every evening at my friend's club to not once since. Seriously.

Low wages for young people. This situation seems to be getting worse.

Housing costs for young people. I've heard that many youngsters spend 50% of their wages on rent. Does;t leave much left over for going out.

Weekend millionaire syndrome. It seems to me that your average guy would rather go out once per month and drop a few hundred quid so he can pretend to be a baller and brag on Facebook/Instagram.

The high cost of drugs. Cocaine has tripled in price in the last 10 years.

Competition from supermarkets. Low priced drinks make drinking at home a no brainer for a lot of people.

24 hour opening at multiple venues has saturated the market. The number of slices in the pie is too large and lots of places cannot cope.

Restaurant bars are scooping up lots of the traditional club punters.

Commercial rents are on the up again. Business rates (business tax) are ridiculous for nightclubs. Many local authorities are actively trying to reduce the number of night time venues, so licencing can be expensive and a general pain in the ass.

Taxis have become very pricey also. Public transport at night is either non existent or bloody dangerous.

ID checks. When I was young, getting into clubs and pubs underage was very easy. Nobody cared. We had our own pub in the city centre when I was at school that was 99% our 6th Form (15-18 year olds). That would be impossible now.


This is on top of the reasons others have mentioned in the thread; Tinder etc.
Bringing this thread back.

In my city, before the Covid-19 clubs were closing at a slow pace, and some of them were being transformed to Hand Made beer businesses. Nowadays the Covid-19 has accelerated the trend with former sites that used to be clubs, being demolished and converted into apartment buildings.
 
Bringing this thread back.

In my city, before the Covid-19 clubs were closing at a slow pace, and some of them were being transformed to Hand Made beer businesses. Nowadays the Covid-19 has accelerated the trend with former sites that used to be clubs, being demolished and converted into apartment buildings.
Where I live I see the same thing, but not just nightclubs, just general nightlife casual bar area where lots of people would just go and hang out. Of course COVID paused that anyway, but even before hand you saw lots of fun, casual cheap bars slowly start to fade away in favor of high end stores and shopping plazas, or lame ass "lounges" that super douches sit at. Very sad. Big business was slowly killing these places long before COVID and now it's just a big consumerist dystopia.
 

C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
The big thing in the US right now, if I understand correctly, are promoters renting out warehouses or mansions and then doing a "pop-up" nightclub for a single weekend, then repeating it somewhere else at a different rental property 2-3 weeks later. Is this not a thing in the UK?
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
I can't think of much worse than the notion of going to a nightclub in this day and age.

I've a friend who still goes to them, does MDMA, coke whatever else (along with his double dose of AstraZeneca, which he smugly said 'is me all done now' lol bless), at 42.

Sad as it gets IMHO.

Last time i took drugs i absolutely hated it. About 4-5 years ago now. "Good" MDMA too, but the whole thing seemed so fake, so desperate. Load of late thirtysomethings chasing an echo of the same novelty and fun they might've felt 15 years earlier, back around the early 00s. But this was around 2016 and the party was very much over.

I still get random cringe-burps back from these times. When the recollection of myself dancing in a club off my face on some conconction, convinced i was having a good time, when really it wasnt that much beyond an anaestitsed panic-attack, flutters back out of nowhere.

Or the sort of risible 'deeeeeep' conversations we would have on pills. At least in the early days of the ninenties you can laugh that off as foolish & naive youth. But i still know people bearing down on fifty who've NEVER moved on from the notion that a club on pills, dancing and getting absolutely wasted and gurning like a village idiot is the highpoint of their social calenders. And that a weekend bender of clubs and 'after parties', and getting wasted in pub gardens as the weekend spills out into the week, drinking to take an edge off the endorphin crash & anxiety, as the fears & paranoia seeps back in.

It's absolutely tragic the drugs & psychedlic psy-op, the damage it caused to countless people. Ok it never killed people like heroin or crack related crime etc, but just the wasted lives, the mundanity of it, the brain-exhaustion, the utter inanity of it all.

Just such a waste.
 

Floriduhman

Pigeon
Protestant
But i still know people bearing down on fifty who've NEVER moved on from the notion that a club on pills, dancing and getting absolutely wasted and gurning like a village idiot is the highpoint of their social calenders. And that a weekend bender of clubs and 'after parties', and getting wasted in pub gardens as the weekend spills out into the week, drinking to take an edge off the endorphin crash & anxiety, as the fears & paranoia seeps back in.

It's absolutely tragic the drugs & psychedlic psy-op, the damage it caused to countless people. Ok it never killed people like heroin or crack related crime etc, but just the wasted lives, the mundanity of it, the brain-exhaustion, the utter inanity of it all.

Just such a waste.

I was reading about David Cassidy the other day. Famous actor, singer, sex symbol very into alcohol, drugs, and a licentious partying lifestyle. His last death bed words: "So much...wasted time."

All about life and priorities ("where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.")

"Remember your creator in the days of your youth, before the days of trouble come, and the years draw near when you will say, 'I have no pleasure in them'... The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God, and keep his commandments; for that is the whole duty of everyone." (Ecclesiastes 12 (definitely worth reading the entire chapter for truth/perspective on life that is wrapped in some of the most beautiful poetry in existence.))

"So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom." (Psalm 90:12)
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
I was reading about David Cassidy the other day. Famous actor, singer, sex symbol very into alcohol, drugs, and a licentious partying lifestyle. His last death bed words: "So much...wasted time."

All about life and priorities ("where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.")

"Remember your creator in the days of your youth, before the days of trouble come, and the years draw near when you will say, 'I have no pleasure in them'... The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God, and keep his commandments; for that is the whole duty of everyone." (Ecclesiastes 12 (definitely worth reading the entire chapter for truth/perspective on life that is wrapped in some of the most beautiful poetry in existence.))

"So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom." (Psalm 90:12)


Reminds me of the antithesis of this.

The endlessly repeated George Best "where did it all go wrong, George?" anecdote. Told a million times by a million thigh-slapping Boomers, and nearly as many times on British tv documentaries and chat shows, as if the Porter was a fool. No, the Porter was the only one with any wisdom.

So George, where did it all go wrong?

The hotel bellboy who delivered champagne to Best's room and found him entertaining a scantily-clad Miss World on a bed covered with his winnings from the casino.


(George Best was a man with a phenonemal God given talent in football, that packed it all in to endlessly cheat on his wives, fail to raise his children & ultimately to drink himself to death, a sad and broken alcoholic).
 
Reminds me of the antithesis of this.

The endlessly repeated George Best "where did it all go wrong, George?" anecdote. Told a million times by a million thigh-slapping Boomers, and nearly as many times on British tv documentaries and chat shows, as if the Porter was a fool. No, the Porter was the only one with any wisdom.

So George, where did it all go wrong?

The hotel bellboy who delivered champagne to Best's room and found him entertaining a scantily-clad Miss World on a bed covered with his winnings from the casino.


(George Best was a man with a phenonemal God given talent in football, that packed it all in to endlessly cheat on his wives, fail to raise his children & ultimately to drink himself to death, a sad and broken alcoholic).
Only the British would find a wasting of God’s gifts amusing. All chortled through lukewarm beer and crunked teeth naturally.
 

roberto

Pelican
Gold Member
The big thing in the US right now, if I understand correctly, are promoters renting out warehouses or mansions and then doing a "pop-up" nightclub for a single weekend, then repeating it somewhere else at a different rental property 2-3 weeks later. Is this not a thing in the UK?
We call them raves mate. Best held in an old quarry for the acoustics, although in a city empty warehouses are often broken into for the same purpose.

All illegal- can't see anything like that ever being given permission over here.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Other Christian
Just read through this thread from the first page. Absolutely fascinating to watch people commenting on social media and Tinder like they were new things, just six short years ago.

I don't think they were old enough before that time. Each generation begins their journey anew from the very beginning.

Tradition and historical memory allows them to update themselves on all developments so far so that they don't have to start everything all over again.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Other Christian
I can't think of much worse than the notion of going to a nightclub in this day and age.

I've a friend who still goes to them, does MDMA, coke whatever else (along with his double dose of AstraZeneca, which he smugly said 'is me all done now' lol bless), at 42.

Sad as it gets IMHO.

Last time i took drugs i absolutely hated it. About 4-5 years ago now. "Good" MDMA too, but the whole thing seemed so fake, so desperate. Load of late thirtysomethings chasing an echo of the same novelty and fun they might've felt 15 years earlier, back around the early 00s. But this was around 2016 and the party was very much over.

I still get random cringe-burps back from these times. When the recollection of myself dancing in a club off my face on some conconction, convinced i was having a good time, when really it wasnt that much beyond an anaestitsed panic-attack, flutters back out of nowhere.

Or the sort of risible 'deeeeeep' conversations we would have on pills. At least in the early days of the ninenties you can laugh that off as foolish & naive youth. But i still know people bearing down on fifty who've NEVER moved on from the notion that a club on pills, dancing and getting absolutely wasted and gurning like a village idiot is the highpoint of their social calenders. And that a weekend bender of clubs and 'after parties', and getting wasted in pub gardens as the weekend spills out into the week, drinking to take an edge off the endorphin crash & anxiety, as the fears & paranoia seeps back in.

It's absolutely tragic the drugs & psychedlic psy-op, the damage it caused to countless people. Ok it never killed people like heroin or crack related crime etc, but just the wasted lives, the mundanity of it, the brain-exhaustion, the utter inanity of it all.

Just such a waste.

I'd rather go hiking, camping under the milky way and hunting wild game. Much more productive and nourishing to our soul.
 

Patrick77

Chicken
Protestant
Does anyone know what nightlife looks like in college towns? Like Athens (Georgia), Chico,(California), Santa Barbara (California), Kingston (Ontario), Newcastle (UK), Utrecht (Netherlands), Grenoble(France)?

Is it still vivacious or have things quieted down?
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
After going several times just to see what it's about, didn't most people (especially the ones that didn't see the value in befriending attention whores, and wannabes, both male and female) just opt for lounges?

That's what I always liked. Classier settings to have a drink, and chat, with a bit more style.
 

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
Where I live I see the same thing, but not just nightclubs, just general nightlife casual bar area where lots of people would just go and hang out. Of course COVID paused that anyway, but even before hand you saw lots of fun, casual cheap bars slowly start to fade away in favor of high end stores and shopping plazas, or lame ass "lounges" that super douches sit at. Very sad. Big business was slowly killing these places long before COVID and now it's just a big consumerist dystopia.
I think my city may only have a couple small “pure” nightclubs left. There are plenty of music venues and bars with small dance floors, but the whole velvet rope nightlife thing has been dead for many years now. I don’t miss it (I am too old now either way), but there is still something sad about it, because I believe its a symptom of many beta males exiting the dating scene. Nightclubs were of course largely dens of pickup failures, but at least men were still trying. Brew pubs and cocktail bars seemed to have proliferated in their place, but those seem more tailored to soy boy behaviors and closed social circles.

I feel bad for young men, because in retrospect, millennials that hit drinking age in the early 2000s had ALOT more opportunities to meet attractive women in real life, and that of course was still very much in the midst of the decline we are still witnessing. The key factor being the smartphone had not fully tainted women yet, and real life male attention and validation hadn’t been replaced by IG and TikTok yet.
 
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