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<blockquote data-quote="Mike_Key" data-source="post: 1452768" data-attributes="member: 17142"><p>All really great comments ... and leaning toward 'College bad'.</p><p></p><p>I'll add, when considering whether you'll go to college think about your parents. Were or are they bright and smart. If so, then that may have rubbed off on you. I wasn't naturally as bright as RooshV or Rush Limbaugh (he had a father that was a Lawyer). I learned plenty from the basics to the most difficult of theory in college, even social etiquette. Also, think about your siblings - how are they doing. If your family is working class or middle class - what tips and tricks are being used thrive? If you are upper class then you are probably cruising and surviving off of Mail-Box Money, incoming cash, and Dividends. In that case you might get bored in early retirement.</p><p></p><p>I <strong>needed college</strong> to be as bright as others. I suppose I could have made a good mechanic, chef, hair-stylists business owner, etc. What I have observed from Businessmen is that they are not necessarily rich, they have Bank loans. They feed money or profits back into their business. They have sizable toys but if hard times hit, they sell those toys to make Pay-roll on Friday morning. Also, it strikes me that without college certain Businessmen don't necessarily save for retirement and another fault, sometimes they or their wives have vices (that I can't afford or that I learned in college to avoid) like drinking alcohol and gambling in Louisiana and Vegas. I've seen some of them die with little retirement cash and/or die as alcoholics. But this crosses all groups of people, those formally educated or not.</p><p></p><p>In talking to businessmen, I find that they often have sob stories of not having clients. Will you have clients? A clip-board of names and/or a software with names and Invoices? You have to be ready to lose big clients, what then? In general, will you be a reliable employee or have reliable employees that you trust to not screw up the Contract or work request?</p><p></p><p>This one older timer once said, "Young kids need to learn how to build it, paint it and sell it." I think that is so true, with College or no college.</p><p></p><p>One last story, you need chutzpah, fortitude, whichever route you choose. In college if you choose Math, EE, Physics, etc ... those are challenging.</p><p></p><p>In business you need to know when to promise something big, very big at which point you run to the Bank and get the largest loan you've asked for. A <strong>small-time HVAC</strong> friend of mine was asked if he could take on a contract of thousands of units (likely 5,000 to 10,000 units, I can't recall). He knew that he couldn't and that it was over his head, but he <strong>said Yes</strong>. He ran to the bank and start hiring people immediately. I see his trucks all over town these days.</p><p></p><p>One last one, never put an uneducated family member in charge of contracts. They will be sniffed out by the wily, shrewd, guy on the other side of the table and you'll end up doing a $10 million dollar job for $5 million after the contract has been switched and minutia/details are overlooked. And in that case, I don't think there is anything a Judge can do about it.</p><p></p><p>John 3:16</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike_Key, post: 1452768, member: 17142"] All really great comments ... and leaning toward 'College bad'. I'll add, when considering whether you'll go to college think about your parents. Were or are they bright and smart. If so, then that may have rubbed off on you. I wasn't naturally as bright as RooshV or Rush Limbaugh (he had a father that was a Lawyer). I learned plenty from the basics to the most difficult of theory in college, even social etiquette. Also, think about your siblings - how are they doing. If your family is working class or middle class - what tips and tricks are being used thrive? If you are upper class then you are probably cruising and surviving off of Mail-Box Money, incoming cash, and Dividends. In that case you might get bored in early retirement. I [B]needed college[/B] to be as bright as others. I suppose I could have made a good mechanic, chef, hair-stylists business owner, etc. What I have observed from Businessmen is that they are not necessarily rich, they have Bank loans. They feed money or profits back into their business. They have sizable toys but if hard times hit, they sell those toys to make Pay-roll on Friday morning. Also, it strikes me that without college certain Businessmen don't necessarily save for retirement and another fault, sometimes they or their wives have vices (that I can't afford or that I learned in college to avoid) like drinking alcohol and gambling in Louisiana and Vegas. I've seen some of them die with little retirement cash and/or die as alcoholics. But this crosses all groups of people, those formally educated or not. In talking to businessmen, I find that they often have sob stories of not having clients. Will you have clients? A clip-board of names and/or a software with names and Invoices? You have to be ready to lose big clients, what then? In general, will you be a reliable employee or have reliable employees that you trust to not screw up the Contract or work request? This one older timer once said, "Young kids need to learn how to build it, paint it and sell it." I think that is so true, with College or no college. One last story, you need chutzpah, fortitude, whichever route you choose. In college if you choose Math, EE, Physics, etc ... those are challenging. In business you need to know when to promise something big, very big at which point you run to the Bank and get the largest loan you've asked for. A [B]small-time HVAC[/B] friend of mine was asked if he could take on a contract of thousands of units (likely 5,000 to 10,000 units, I can't recall). He knew that he couldn't and that it was over his head, but he [B]said Yes[/B]. He ran to the bank and start hiring people immediately. I see his trucks all over town these days. One last one, never put an uneducated family member in charge of contracts. They will be sniffed out by the wily, shrewd, guy on the other side of the table and you'll end up doing a $10 million dollar job for $5 million after the contract has been switched and minutia/details are overlooked. And in that case, I don't think there is anything a Judge can do about it. John 3:16 [/QUOTE]
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