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<blockquote data-quote="Cervantes" data-source="post: 1453040" data-attributes="member: 19971">Even this is getting to be a bad bargain. There are certain fields that will require a certificate from a university - like being a medical doctor. But even for things like engineering you don't need a degree. After my first job nobody ever asked about my degree ever again.Learn the material online and through personal projects, then get a job in that field anywhere that will have you with no degree, and with 4 years of work experience you'll be ahead of someone coming out of university in terms of skill, work experience and instead of having paid money - you will have been earning money.For know nothing fields (like sociology, gender studies) it is even clearer. If you spend 4 years getting a degree, when you get your first job at Starcucks your manager will be a 21 year old who started working there when you entered college. Not only will he earn more than you - he won't have crushing college debt.You know what Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs have in common? They all realized college was garbage and dropped out before getting a degree. The time they saved gave them an edge over their peers. And that was pre-2000. You don't need an IQ above 100 to know that college today is a waste of time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cervantes, post: 1453040, member: 19971"] Even this is getting to be a bad bargain. There are certain fields that will require a certificate from a university - like being a medical doctor. But even for things like engineering you don't need a degree. After my first job nobody ever asked about my degree ever again. Learn the material online and through personal projects, then get a job in that field anywhere that will have you with no degree, and with 4 years of work experience you'll be ahead of someone coming out of university in terms of skill, work experience and instead of having paid money - you will have been earning money. For know nothing fields (like sociology, gender studies) it is even clearer. If you spend 4 years getting a degree, when you get your first job at Starcucks your manager will be a 21 year old who started working there when you entered college. Not only will he earn more than you - he won't have crushing college debt. You know what Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs have in common? They all realized college was garbage and dropped out before getting a degree. The time they saved gave them an edge over their peers. And that was pre-2000. You don't need an IQ above 100 to know that college today is a waste of time. [/QUOTE]

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