Complaints of Donald Trump thread

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It_is_my_time

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I know plenty of people who would've stopped supporting him real quick if he kept handing out money while we're out here working our as$es off to earn that money.

Then those blue pilled Trump supporters need to be red pilled. Furious over $285 billion handed to people who can't make their rent but completely fine with Jared Kushner's little buddies getting $5 trillion to cover their stock loses and buy Chinese investments thanks to the gutless coward.
 

homersheineken

Pelican
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I got busy yesterday and read up on this and realized Trump has a chance to go down as one of the worst presidents in US history and is currently crashing in the polls. Trump ran his mouth off in 2016 about helping the working class. Then he spent 4 years doing nothing to help the working class and instead did everything Kushner and his billionaire bosses all wanted instead. Then, as if an act by God, came coronavirus. The ultimate excuse to actually help the working class. Coronavirus gave him an excuse to do the most popular of political moves...

- Close the border to stop the spread into the USA.
- National Healthcare policy, with the current system out of control and too expensive.
- Hand out free money to the people during the worst economic crisis in 80 years.

And the gutless coward didn't even try.

If he loses to a 78 year old with half a brain in the election it is all his fault. As you get older you realize those who talk the most often do the least and that will be Trump's legacy if he doesn't do something in the next 4 weeks.


This helps explain why there hasn't been more handouts:

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It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
This helps explain why there hasn't been more handouts:

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I appreciate the well thought out response. But Trump has had months to make this point and make it clear. He has the bully pulpit to preach from. He could just come out to the press and say "the American people are hurting economically. I want to give them another round of $1,200 to help them get by but the Democrats are holding all this up with special interests.".

Instead he sat there like a fool and let Kushner run his Presidency and the country into the ground for personal profit. At least Trump's boss Kushner and his friends got rich off coronavirus.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
The families of the 210K+ survivors care. The burnt out healthcare workers on the front lines care. And you'll care too if Trump turns out to be not as "immune" as he claims to be.
Wait, you're telling me people have died this year? Surely this is unprecedented. “Front line” workers is an insult to actual front line soldiers. Your average nurse is far more likely to die on her commute to and from work than from covid. My mom is a nurse, and the worst thing she's experienced from covid is dealing with hysterical patients and coworkers.

I criticize Trump plenty (stimulus for rich but not middle class, refusing to prosecute anyone of note, refusing to get us fully out of wars, healthcare) but for this? Absurd. It's buying into Pharmaceutical companies/Bill Gates/Media/DNC lies and exaggerations.
 

Papaya

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I appreciate the well thought out response. But Trump has had months to make this point and make it clear. He has the bully pulpit to preach from. He could just come out to the press and say "the American people are hurting economically. I want to give them another round of $1,200 to help them get by but the Democrats are holding all this up with special interests.".

Instead he sat there like a fool and let Kushner run his Presidency and the country into the ground for personal profit. At least Trump's boss Kushner and his friends got rich off coronavirus.

What Trump has said that has NOT been reported by MSM could fill several volumes.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
What Trump has said that has NOT been reported by MSM could fill several volumes.

Great point, one of the biggest examples of Trump being a complete fraud is his whining about the press. He is the President of the USA, he doesn't need the press. All he had to do was either actually do something about Twitter or go to another platform and support his follows and speak directly to the American people.

His whining about the press is so old and tired it pushes me more towards Biden. I am sick of seeing him whine about things he refuses to fix all to please his boss Kushner.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
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Orthodox
Great point, one of the biggest examples of Trump being a complete fraud is his whining about the press. He is the President of the USA, he doesn't need the press. All he had to do was either actually do something about Twitter or go to another platform and support his follows and speak directly to the American people.

His whining about the press is so old and tired it pushes me more towards Biden. I am sick of seeing him whine about things he refuses to fix all to please his boss Kushner.
The way the press treated him, and with the level of support he had, he could've made Alex Jones press secretary in 2017, and banned everyone to the left of Fox. Heck, make Alex Jones the Attorney General. It wouldn't make anyone hate him any more or less.
 

Papaya

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The families of the 210K+ survivors care. The burnt out healthcare workers on the front lines care. And you'll care too if Trump turns out to be not as "immune" as he claims to be.

The 210k (and growing) number that the MSM keeps regurgitating is fear mongering propaganda. This has been discussed ad naseum, in the Covid threads. The CDC itself revised its figures last month to say that deaths from CV19 ( vs with CV19) puts the rate at around 6% of the reported deaths or roughly 10k so far.

There are no "burned out" front line health care workers. I have two family members including a emergency MD is South Florida that told me the only time they were burned out was in the early days preparing for the "massive wave of hospitalizations" that never came. And this in an area with a very high proportion of elderly.

Moreover Ive also had 14 members of extended family test positive since July. Only 3 were mildly symptomatic.

There are legitimate reasons for criticizing Trump, but downplaying a virus that he himself contracted and easily recovered from as an unfit septuagenarian from in the period of 4 days isnt one
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
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The way the press treated him, and with the level of support he had, he could've made Alex Jones press secretary in 2017, and banned everyone to the left of Fox. Heck, make Alex Jones the Attorney General. It wouldn't make anyone hate him any more or less.

Yep, the possibilities were endless. Instead we got Jeb Bush after countless people lost their jobs, their health, some their lives, supporting this gutless clown.

He deserves to lose to a 78 year old man in an national embarrassment but I don't know if we will get to see that or not.
 

questor70

 
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“Front line” workers is an insult to actual front line soldiers.

Like the soldiers who died in battle and were called losers by Trump?

Or maybe the soldiers who died because Trump's pal Putin put a bounty on their heads?

Do you really want to go down the line of Trump's flaws here? Because only someone who has a severe case of A.D.D. is going to be able to absorb all of it and still come out the other end still supporting him. And I'm not even talking about this from any particular ideological position. Even from the vantage point of the right, Trump has been a failure. Only the self-deluded can think otherwise. You guys should seek out a new right-wing savior because Trump isn't it.
 
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homersheineken

Pelican
Protestant
I appreciate the well thought out response. But Trump has had months to make this point and make it clear. He has the bully pulpit to preach from. He could just come out to the press and say "the American people are hurting economically. I want to give them another round of $1,200 to help them get by but the Democrats are holding all this up with special interests.".

Instead he sat there like a fool and let Kushner run his Presidency and the country into the ground for personal profit. At least Trump's boss Kushner and his friends got rich off coronavirus.

He has literally said that:


Agreed he could do/say more, but as Papaya said above, if the media won't report what does it matter to the people?
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
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Orthodox
Like the soldiers who died in battle and were called losers by Trump?

Or maybe the soldiers who died because Trump's pal Putin put a bounty on their heads?

Do you really want to go down the line of Trump's flaws here? Because only someone who has a severe case of A.D.D. is going to be able to absorb all of it and still come out the other end still supporting him. And I'm not even talking about this from any particular ideological position. Even from the vantage point of the right, Trump has been a failure. Only the self-deluded can think otherwise.
Like the soldiers who died in battle and were called losers by Trump?

Or maybe the soldiers who died because Trump's pal Putin put a bounty on their heads?

Do you really want to go down the line of Trump's flaws here? Because only someone who has a severe case of A.D.D. is going to be able to absorb all of it and still come out the other end still supporting him. And I'm not even talking about this from any particular ideological position. Even from the vantage point of the right, Trump has been a failure. Only the self-deluded can think otherwise.
Trump has a ton of flaws, I'm not sure why you're picking literally all hoaxes. The soldier one even John Bolton said never happened. The bounty thing is completely irrelevant regardless of if it's true. My point was covid is fake and gay, that was my entire assertion. All evidence points to that.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
He has literally said that:


Agreed he could do/say more, but as Papaya said above, if the media won't report what does it matter to the people?


He should have done this in July when it mattered. Or even did it yesterday BEFORE he said he wouldn't do this before the election, which tanked the stock market and we all know that is all he cares about.
 

questor70

 
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Trump has a ton of flaws, I'm not sure why you're picking literally all hoaxes.

Because they aren't hoaxes. Only someone desperately trying to avoid the humiliation of admitting they made a wrong call can believe all this stuff is a hoax. This is why I made a pointless plea for you guys to avoid going down further into the tinfoil hat rabbit hole, but I know that's a waste of time. You'll lick Trump's boots even if he loses the election, declares bankruptcy and is thrown in jail for tax evasion. It's all that deep state, don'cha'know. I'm sorry to say that I don't have a lot of respect for people who develop cultish devotion to any one public figure. If you have strong ideological convictions, then walk the talk and by gosh follow someone with integrity and not just someone for whom you have to spend all your time MAKING EXCUSES FOR. It's simply not supposed to be this difficult but I think some people have made this so habitual that they don't realize how silly this all is. I'm sure there ARE right wingers who are the real deal out there. Kick Trump to the curb, find one of those, and back THEM. Don't back a phony savior. It's becoming pathetic. Stop being Alex P Keaton and take his bust off your wall, folks.
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
Great point, one of the biggest examples of Trump being a complete fraud is his whining about the press. He is the President of the USA, he doesn't need the press. All he had to do was either actually do something about Twitter or go to another platform and support his follows and speak directly to the American people.

It shows how weak he really is. Who really cares what the press says? Apparently he does.

Even Fox News acts that way. Go to their homepage any time of day or night, and I guarantee you'll find at least one article where they complain how the other media outlets are doing this and that. Right now, it's "Critics Pan NY Times' Biden Endorsement". Who cares what your competitor is doing? I doubt NY Times runs articles every day reporting on something Fox News did. It's like Fox News is trying too hard to be cool, and I'm not even sure why as their cable news channel has higher ratings than all the other channels like CNN and MSNBC.
 

godfather dust

 
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Like the soldiers who died in battle and were called losers by Trump?

Or maybe the soldiers who died because Trump's pal Putin put a bounty on their heads?

Do you really want to go down the line of Trump's flaws here? Because only someone who has a severe case of A.D.D. is going to be able to absorb all of it and still come out the other end still supporting him. And I'm not even talking about this from any particular ideological position. Even from the vantage point of the right, Trump has been a failure. Only the self-deluded can think otherwise. You guys should seek out a new right-wing savior because Trump isn't it.
You are in the anti-Trump thread.

You are freaking out because we are not wussified cowards and pansies afraid of the cold.

Wrong thread to call participants orange pillers.
 
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