Complaints of Donald Trump thread

[get2choppaaa]

it isn't secret information, I routinely tell you where to go to learn for yourselves. It just takes a lot of work to internalize it and the use it to your advantage.

Yes, I hear the media propaganda about Iran. It is hard for me to 100% believe the media on Iran when I know I can't believe them on anything else. I don't think Iran is good, I just know they are doing more for Christians in the Middle East that Trump is doing so I would thus consider them "less worse" on this subject. I wish Trump would change his ways so this wasn't true but he wakes up every day deciding making Sheldon Adelson happy is more important than protecting Christians.

The structure of the USA and our lives within it rotten to the core. Once you realize you can't live within this system and find peace then you can start to really think and eventually act on what to do about it. And this is no small step, and even when you do internalize it you will constantly feel pressure to get brought back into the rotten system.

I have no personal animosity and I think it is wise for everyone to share as little as possible about themselves. I have the subjects on the table and I would love to talk about them in length. If I am an inexperience boob, as you may suspect, you can certainly destroy my viewpoints.

AHHHH so you too are using media resources to base your opinions.... like everyone else. So you have to discern the difference between the signal and the noise.

Why do you say they are doing more for Christians in the middle east than Trump? Based off of what metric? It is interesting you are able to make the acceptance of a lesser of two evils regarding Iran v US/NATO/ISAF Foreign Policy yet that same mental construct is rejected regarding Trump V Biden.

The false dichotomy of making Sheldon Adelson v protecting Christians trope both tedious and a gross simplification that is fundamentally inaccurate. Here is why: Our economic partnerships are with Saudi Arabia, Israel, UAE, Oman, Qatar, and Egypt. ect.... These are all Sunni countries, with the obvious exception being Israel. The split among Shia/Sunni lines is a byproduct of a backward religion, and we are negotiating military policy based off of political and economic ramifications of those differences. I am no great supporter of Israel, I think they have done some pretty terrible things to Christians and Muslims in their own country.... but unless you are saying we should have a great Crusade, making the split of good countries and bad countries along religious lines isn't really a complete view of the world. It negates economic model and internecine ethnic considerations. Iran was a major US ally and grew exponentially until the Shah was ousted for the Mullahs, and we once had a chance to maintain that relationship. Instead they have chosen China/Russian axis of geopolitics. That's the reality.

So since you've applied a metric to state who is and isnt blue pilled, what if I told you the following: Anyone who hasn't served in the military and has not deployed in support of combat operations is blue pilled on geopolitics? That's a totally arbitrary example, one that I don't actually believe, but this the line of thinking you have made in previous posts regarding blue pilled people you have to mete out information to in order to wake them up. I have seen mothers blow up their own kids, all of whom were products of ISIS brainwashing, women who we were there to help free from the attempted Caliphate being established in Surte Libya. So are you going to tell me that what I witnessed didn't happen? When you try and cut all the geopolitics into black and white binary choices, you don't really account for any of the realities of human behavior.

It is pretty clear you are not going to persuaded, but others out there need to be ware of your black pilled mentality. I'll be generous to say you may be trying to emphasize the importance of acceptance that no-man can save you and there is only hope THROUGH the Church and Christ, but your framing of the entirety of the issue is incomplete and pits false dichotomies and binary choices over and over again.

Let me ask you, do you have a family? If so, do you think it will be better benefitted by a Biden Admin?

 

[Rogue Statistician]

Great, so are you going to counter and of the points I made about Trump being a complete fraud or are we going to pretend we can save the country electing a guy who is running the country to the left of Obama while the clock is running out?

Trump isn't the problem. He is merely a symptom of a much more chronic disease.

I am vastly more interested in taking a sober look at my average conservative ally. The Right's problems reside in the bathroom mirror's of every person who checks (R) on a ballot, and their inability to have even the slightest amount of introspection. Instead they flee like rats from every situation that has perceivable discomfort.

Trump could die tomorrow and it wouldn't change the biggest problems the Right faces:

1) Boomer cons only care about their pensions and home values. Covid has shown us they will just as easily shut the economy down to squeeze out every last ounce of their golden years. This is where our treasury is, in the hands of the self centered.
2) Western clergy are useless ticks by and large. And the parishes are battered housewives at this point. Without the church we have no rally point for the differing ethnic interests.
3) The right refuses to entertain the thought of violence in any manner. Cowards tend to lose wars.

It's the same story with you over and over. You post obsessively about your many complaints about Trump. I have asked you previously to elaborate, or provide a citation if you don't want to type, as have other members...…..every time this happens you resort to counter factual thought or some type of schizophrenic tautology to prop up your infallibility.

I have already demonstrated you are a liar. You have claimed to work 7 days a week, across 3 jobs. It is mathematically impossible for this to be true given the timestamps on your activity here.

- Tax cuts for billionaires and middle class but for some reason no one could explain the middle class tax cut had an expiration date and the billionaires did not.

I must have missed the the section of Article II that enumerates appropriations powers.

- Moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.

Ah yes....why would a Christian nation like the USA ever put their embassy in Jerusalem. Why would we want our embassy near the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

- Added troops illegally to Syria to protect ISIS so they can attack Christians.

I'm done replying, until you can demonstrate some form of proof that US forces are actively shielding ISIL militants. Post your citations.

 

[It_is_my_time]

AHHHH so you too are using media resources to base your opinions.... like everyone else. So you have to discern the difference between the signal and the noise.

Why do you say they are doing more for Christians in the middle east than Trump? Based off of what metric? It is interesting you are able to make the acceptance of a lesser of two evils regarding Iran v US/NATO/ISAF Foreign Policy yet that same mental construct is rejected regarding Trump V Biden.

The false dichotomy of making Sheldon Adelson v protecting Christians trope both tedious and a gross simplification that is fundamentally inaccurate. Here is why: Our economic partnerships are with Saudi Arabia, Israel, UAE, Oman, Qatar, and Egypt. ect.... These are all Sunni countries, with the obvious exception being Israel. The split among Shia/Sunni lines is a byproduct of a backward religion, and we are negotiating military policy based off of political and economic ramifications of those differences. I am no great supporter of Israel, I think they have done some pretty terrible things to Christians and Muslims in their own country.... but unless you are saying we should have a great Crusade, making the split of good countries and bad countries along religious lines isn't really a complete view of the world. It negates economic model and internecine ethnic considerations. Iran was a major US ally and grew exponentially until the Shah was ousted for the Mullahs, and we once had a chance to maintain that relationship. Instead they have chosen China/Russian axis of geopolitics. That's the reality.

So since you've applied a metric to state who is and isnt blue pilled, what if I told you the following: Anyone who hasn't served in the military and has not deployed in support of combat operations is blue pilled on geopolitics? That's a totally arbitrary example, one that I don't actually believe, but this the line of thinking you have made in previous posts regarding blue pilled people you have to mete out information to in order to wake them up. I have seen mothers blow up their own kids, all of whom were products of ISIS brainwashing, women who we were there to help free from the attempted Caliphate being established in Surte Libya. So are you going to tell me that what I witnessed didn't happen? When you try and cut all the geopolitics into black and white binary choices, you don't really account for any of the realities of human behavior.

It is pretty clear you are not going to persuaded, but others out there need to be ware of your black pilled mentality. I'll be generous to say you may be trying to emphasize the importance of acceptance that no-man can save you and there is only hope THROUGH the Church and Christ, but your framing of the entirety of the issue is incomplete and pits false dichotomies and binary choices over and over again.

Let me ask you, do you have a family? If so, do you think it will be better benefitted by a Biden Admin?

We all use media, but there is a large difference in obvious propaganda and investigative journalism. I'm not sure of your point, you should by now realize what crime is taking place in Syria and there is no way you can support it. I can tell by how you respond to me that it is emotionally taxing for you and you eventually just have to accept what Trump is doing in Syria is purely evil. I don't see it stopping under Biden either, which is why I say the election doesn't matter. Nothing will change.

I know about the Sunni v. Shia situation and it is of no surprise we take the side who commits the most terrorist attacks across the west. But everything we do when it comes to foreign policy is dangerous to the American middle and lower class and that is on purpose.

I've seen more than plenty of military veterans speak out against our foreign policy. I would guess the military veterans on average are more red pilled on this subject than anyone else and they support Trump when he says he wants to bring troops home. Unfortunately Trump isn't actually brining Troops home, he is sending them into Syria to protect ISIS and now talking tough on Iran.

For anyone else reading these posts you can see why I hold a lot back.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Trump isn't the problem. He is merely a symptom of a much more chronic disease.

I am vastly more interested in taking a sober look at my average conservative ally. The Right's problems reside in the bathroom mirror's of every person who checks (R) on a ballot, and their inability to have even the slightest amount of introspection. Instead they flee like rats from every situation that has perceivable discomfort.

Trump could die tomorrow and it wouldn't change the biggest problems the Right faces:

1) Boomer cons only care about their pensions and home values. Covid has shown us they will just as easily shut the economy down to squeeze out every last ounce of their golden years. This is where our treasury is, in the hands of the self centered.
2) Western clergy are useless ticks by and large. And the parishes are battered housewives at this point. Without the church we have no rally point for the differing ethnic interests.
3) The right refuses to entertain the thought of violence in any manner. Cowards tend to lose wars.

It's the same story with you over and over. You post obsessively about your many complaints about Trump. I have asked you previously to elaborate, or provide a citation if you don't want to type, as have other members...…..every time this happens you resort to counter factual thought or some type of schizophrenic tautology to prop up your infallibility.

I have already demonstrated you are a liar. You have claimed to work 7 days a week, across 3 jobs. It is mathematically impossible for this to be true given the timestamps on your activity here.


I must have missed the the section of Article II that enumerates appropriations powers.


Ah yes....why would a Christian nation like the USA ever put their embassy in Jerusalem. Why would we want our embassy near the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.


I'm done replying, until you can demonstrate some form of proof that US forces are actively shielding ISIL militants. Post your citations.

Well of course Trump isn't the source of the problem, he is just the big mouthed face of the problem while the king makers sit behind the curtain counting their pile of gold.

"I have asked you previously to elaborate, or provide a citation " - When did this happen? Feel free to quote the post when this happened.

You didn't establish anything. You do realize some people have internet access at work, correct? With smart phones, I would hazard a guess that most everyone now has internet access at work.

As far as the US troops being strategically placed to protect ISIS there is an entire thread on it here.

The Syria conflict thread

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12153112/Russia-warns-of-new-world-war-starting-in-Syria.html Russia warned of “a new world war" starting in Syria on Thursday after a dramatic day in which Gulf states threatened to send in ground forces. Foreign and defence...

www.rooshvforum.com

 

[get2choppaaa]

We all use media, but there is a large difference in obvious propaganda and investigative journalism. I'm not sure of your point, you should by now realize what crime is taking place in Syria and there is no way you can support it. I can tell by how you respond to me that it is emotionally taxing for you and you eventually just have to accept what Trump is doing in Syria is purely evil. I don't see it stopping under Biden either, which is why I say the election doesn't matter. Nothing will change.

I know about the Sunni v. Shia situation and it is of no surprise we take the side who commits the most terrorist attacks across the west. But everything we do when it comes to foreign policy is dangerous to the American middle and lower class and that is on purpose.

I've seen more than plenty of military veterans speak out against our foreign policy. I would guess the military veterans on average are more red pilled on this subject than anyone else and they support Trump when he says he wants to bring troops home. Unfortunately Trump isn't actually brining Troops home, he is sending them into Syria to protect ISIS and now talking tough on Iran.

For anyone else reading these posts you can see why I hold a lot back.

I am not justifying continued military conflict, merely stating it is not black and white. Geopolitics is a messy business. I don't think we should be in war in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, in fact the matter of truth is that Donald Trump had every opportunity to engage Iran militarily, and chose not to post Soleimani Retaliatory Strike.

You are attributing malice to Donald Trump as though he is specifically looking for these Christian families to persecute them himself, absent of the facts that all of these conflicts were in place well before he was in power. Talking Tough on Iran, no problem. I have friends who have been killed by rockets supplied by al Quds forces.... so I would support killing that piece of shit Soleimani, do it 100/100 times.

I clicked your link where at the last page you have a video of some supposed russian/us showdown. You dont know anything about who or what is in that video and for all we know its straight Russian Propoganda. The Russians arent great defenders of Christainity any more than they are self interested in their economic ties with Iran. Its about money bro, Stop making it like a holy war when it isnt. Thats babble garble. This video's authenticity is not verified and is how fake news gets started. You're no better than CNN saying there was a shoosting with machine guns and tracers post trump pulling out a group of SF guys when in reality it was a gun club in Kentucky or TN. Unless you were there, you dont know shit about what happened in the video. You turning me into the walking epitome Walter of in the Big Lebowski.... " Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!".

Again, you have no first hand experience dealing with these groups of people. You're just pulling shit from the internet to fit your alt-right confirmation bias you mentioned earlier about the only way to learn the truth.

 

[It_is_my_time]

I am not justifying continued military conflict, merely stating it is not black and white. Geopolitics is a messy business. I don't think we should be in war in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, in fact the matter of truth is that Donald Trump had every opportunity to engage Iran militarily, and chose not to post Soleimani Retaliatory Strike.

You are attributing malice to Donald Trump as though he is specifically looking for these Christian families to persecute them himself, absent of the facts that all of these conflicts were in place well before he was in power. Talking Tough on Iran, no problem. I have friends who have been killed by rockets supplied by al Quds forces.... so I would support killing that piece of shit Soleimani, do it 100/100 times.

I clicked your link where at the last page you have a video of some supposed russian/us showdown. You dont know anything about who or what is in that video and for all we know its straight Russian Propoganda. The Russians arent great defenders of Christainity any more than they are self interested in their economic ties with Iran. Its about money bro, Stop making it like a holy war when it isnt. Thats babble garble. This video's authenticity is not verified and is how fake news gets started. You're no better than CNN saying there was a shoosting with machine guns and tracers post trump pulling out a group of SF guys when in reality it was a gun club in Kentucky or TN. Unless you were there, you dont know shit about what happened in the video. You turning me into the walking epitome Walter of in the Big Lebowski.... " Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!".

Again, you have no first hand experience dealing with these groups of people. You're just pulling shit from the internet to fit your alt-right confirmation bias you mentioned earlier about the only way to learn the truth.

Well of course Trump isn't out targeting Christians specifically. He is running cover for ISIS so they can attack Christians and go after Assad and his regime to make people like Sheldon Adelson and Bernie Marcus happy.

Talking tough on Iran is not only NOT American First, it is trying to build support for full scale war on Iran which will get thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Americans killed. I don't want to see more war for Israel's benefit and our men being sacrificed.

For Russia it is win/win, yes it is about economic, but it is also about Christianity. Russian is much more of a Christian nation by % than the USA is. The USA isn't a Christian nation in the least and it is becoming less Christian by the day.

 

[Rogue Statistician]

Well of course Trump isn't the source of the problem, he is just the big mouthed face of the problem while the king makers sit behind the curtain counting their pile of gold.

Do you have anything to offer me that doesn't leave me in a useless place of conjuncture? Or am I not far enough down your simple 5 point plan charade?

At this point I think I'd settle for a list of podcasts and the names of a few obscure authors that I am unaware of.

"I have asked you previously to elaborate, or provide a citation " - When did this happen? Feel free to quote the post when this happened.

I don't care enough to look for it. It had something to do with Trump blue pilling men like he's some type of master hypnotist. I don't really care about the thread in question. It's just a means for me to bring up your pattern of behavior. I'm more interested in why you seem to have enough time to shit post on the regular, yet when anyone asks you to go deeper you claim to not have time, or you give some weird sales pitch on internalizing beliefs before the next set of beliefs can be released.....like we're taking part in a scientology conversion.

You didn't establish anything. You do realize some people have internet access at work, correct? With smart phones, I would hazard a guess that most everyone now has internet access at work.

You're not here on your lunch break posting memes. Your day job seems to be posting, commenting or liking something every 45 minutes. You don't even seem to have gaps in activity that would be indicative of some form of reoccurring commute. It's just nonstop oblique language meant to demoralize, almost like you get a biweekly check from the DHS.

As far as the US troops being strategically placed to protect ISIS there is an entire thread on it here.

The Syria conflict thread

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12153112/Russia-warns-of-new-world-war-starting-in-Syria.html Russia warned of “a new world war" starting in Syria on Thursday after a dramatic day in which Gulf states threatened to send in ground forces. Foreign and defence...

www.rooshvforum.com

So am I meant to read the original post with the Telegraph link? Or did you honestly just link me a 70+ page thread of uncurated comments as a source? Any particular pages more important than others, or is the WWE event in the Turkish Parliament detailed on page 73 required reading?

Moving forward its best if we avoid interaction, as your semantic style smells a little to similar to gefilte fish for my liking.

Be well.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Do you have anything to offer me that doesn't leave me in a useless place of conjuncture? Or am I not far enough down your simple 5 point plan charade?

At this point I think I'd settle for a list of podcasts and the names of a few obscure authors that I am unaware of.


I don't care enough to look for it. It had something to do with Trump blue pilling men like he's some type of master hypnotist. I don't really care about the thread in question. It's just a means for me to bring up your pattern of behavior. I'm more interested in why you seem to have enough time to shit post on the regular, yet when anyone asks you to go deeper you claim to not have time, or you give some weird sales pitch on internalizing beliefs before the next set of beliefs can be released.....like we're taking part in a scientology conversion.


You're not here on your lunch break posting memes. Your day job seems to be posting, commenting or liking something every 45 minutes. You don't even seem to have gaps in activity that would be indicative of some form of reoccurring commute. It's just nonstop oblique language meant to demoralize, almost like you get a biweekly check from the DHS.


So am I mean to read the original post with the Telegraph link? Or did you honestly just link me a 70+ page thread of uncurated comments as a source? Any particular pages more important than others, or is the WWE event in the Turkish Parliament detailed on page 73 required reading?

Moving forward its best if we avoid interaction, as your semantic style smells a little to similar to gefilte fish for my liking.

Be well.

We agree on Trump being no different than anyone else in DC and yet you go on to make personal. That is fine, it is just a great reason I don't go into much detail. Thank you for proving that for me to the rest of the forum.

You think Trump is no different than any other politician and neither do I, you should stick with this agreement and work from there and we probably can have a great civil conversation on the subject.

The 70+ page thread is full of information to answer most any question you have on Syria. If you are serious on expanding your knowledge on what is going on in Syria I recommend you read through it. I don't have the time or energy to rehash what has already been laid out on this forum.

 

[get2choppaaa]

We agree on Trump being no different than anyone else in DC and yet you go on to make personal. That is fine, it is just a great reason I don't go into much detail. Thank you for proving that for me to the rest of the forum.

You think Trump is no different than any other politician and neither do I, you should stick with this agreement and work from there and we probably can have a great civil conversation on the subject.

The 70+ page thread is full of information to answer most any question you have on Syria. If you are serious on expanding your knowledge on what is going on in Syria I recommend you read through it. I don't have the time or energy to rehash what has already been laid out on this forum.

Nor do you have the ability to convincingly make your argument other than cite another post full of other internet personalities and their conjecture, and expect people to accept the 70 pages of discussion as the definitive source for said subject matter... If you are about changing people's minds, you're going to have to do better than a thread starting in 2016. This is effectively saying "read a book" If I am a Trumper who is willing to skepticism of the Donald, you're going to lose me when you start spouting about geo-politics and lose context and appropriate discussion points to persuade me, other than to say "Trump is running cover for ISIS, and he is making it all worse"

Again, you're making the assertion that you're an authority and dismissing criticism. You can't answer anything to give contexts about your shit posts, (life experiences/employment context...ect) other than to say "if you believe the system can offer you relief you blue pilled." That is nihilism. Effectively you are saying your participation in the Democratic Republic of the United States is a waste... so your choices are: withdraw to being a hermit/reject all forms of living in the world and trying to function in the representative government our founding father's established (no matter how bastardized it has become) or a complete overhaul of the system...something that will not put people of faith in a good frame of light as communists such as Harris/Biden will be re-invigorating the anti-Patriot commie brigade as evidenced in every Junta overthrow of a Democracy, and lead to persecution of the faith,. SO..... that's a lose lose battle here also. I might add the former is something as a Christian that is incompatible with being in the world but not of the world as even the Orthodox Church recognizes that Government Authority comes from God , and we have to act within the constructs of national political rules to effect the country's trajectory (Trump has been considerably more anti-abortion than what alternative we would be facing come a new President in November, something as a Christian I would venture to say is of utmost importance.)

I think we have all said there are things that Donald Trump has failed to do or done wrong (not getting more done on exposing the Clinton/Obama-gate fiasco, Cozying up to Kushner, pushing referendums on Globohomo to make sodomy not a criminal act worldwide, to name a few). That isn't the point of my criticism of your comments. I would probably agree with you on many of your criticisms if it weren't for the fact that the presentation is so dismissive of criticism whilst not providing any comments about your context from which you make … only to retreat to the "and this is why I share so little on this forum, because the mean bad guy other members might attack my credibility."

So let me ask, again, do you have a family? You make several comments about Christianity? Have you consulted a priest in their take on nationalism? Our current government? A lot of your criticisms reminds me of the Pro-Russian Government Alexander Dugan speak that promulgates things antithetical to America. Maybe you've gotten on a Jay Dyer kick and gotten fixated on some of his discussion with Dugan? I don't know... and in lieu of any other sources specifically we who are skeptical of you are all just going to generalize and characterize since you've not provided whom you are suggesting as an authority. So there's a perfect opportunity to educate us brainwashed masses on who we should be listening to....

 

[It_is_my_time]

Nor do you have the ability to convincingly make your argument other than cite another post full of other internet personalities and their conjecture, and expect people to accept the 70 pages of discussion as the definitive source for said subject matter... If you are about changing people's minds, you're going to have to do better than a thread starting in 2016. This is effectively saying "read a book" If I am a Trumper who is willing to skepticism of the Donald, you're going to lose me when you start spouting about geo-politics and lose context and appropriate discussion points to persuade me, other than to say "Trump is running cover for ISIS, and he is making it all worse"

Again, you're making the assertion that you're an authority and dismissing criticism. You can't answer anything to give contexts about your shit posts, (life experiences/employment context...ect) other than to say "if you believe the system can offer you relief you blue pilled." That is nihilism. Effectively you are saying your participation in the Democratic Republic of the United States is a waste... so your choices are: withdraw to being a hermit/reject all forms of living in the world and trying to function in the representative government our founding father's established (no matter how bastardized it has become) or a complete overhaul of the system...something that will not put people of faith in a good frame of light as communists such as Harris/Biden will be re-invigorating the anti-Patriot commie brigade as evidenced in every Junta overthrow of a Democracy, and lead to persecution of the faith,. SO..... that's a lose lose battle here also. I might add the former is something as a Christian that is incompatible with being in the world but not of the world as even the Orthodox Church recognizes that Government Authority comes from God , and we have to act within the constructs of national political rules to effect the country's trajectory (Trump has been considerably more anti-abortion than what alternative we would be facing come a new President in November, something as a Christian I would venture to say is of utmost importance.)

I think we have all said there are things that Donald Trump has failed to do or done wrong (not getting more done on exposing the Clinton/Obama-gate fiasco, Cozying up to Kushner, pushing referendums on Globohomo to make sodomy not a criminal act worldwide, to name a few). That isn't the point of my criticism of your comments. I would probably agree with you on many of your criticisms if it weren't for the fact that the presentation is so dismissive of criticism whilst not providing any comments about your context from which you make … only to retreat to the "and this is why I share so little on this forum, because the mean bad guy other members might attack my credibility."

So let me ask, again, do you have a family? You make several comments about Christianity? Have you consulted a priest in their take on nationalism? Our current government? A lot of your criticisms reminds me of the Pro-Russian Government Alexander Dugan speak that promulgates things antithetical to America. Maybe you've gotten on a Jay Dyer kick and gotten fixated on some of his discussion with Dugan? I don't know... and in lieu of any other sources specifically we who are skeptical of you are all just going to generalize and characterize since you've not provided whom you are suggesting as an authority. So there's a perfect opportunity to educate us brainwashed masses on who we should be listening to....

I don't have the time or energy to go into great detail of what is going on in Syria, nor is it needed. It is pretty obvious why we are in Syria. We are there to keep Assad from wiping ISIS out so that ISIS can continue their attacks on the Syrian people and Assad's government. There is a wealth of information in that thread and as you said, it is 70 pages - basically a book, why in the world would Roosh want a 70 page thread repeated in yet another thread. If someone thinks we are in Syria, illegally I add, to NOT protect ISIS, then what excuse do they have for us being there? I would be very surprised if someone posting on this forum thinks we are in Syria for a reason other than protecting ISIS and keeping a foothold (illegally) in Syria. But if someone wants to challenge this narrative then I would love to hear the reason they believe we are illegally in Syrian territory.

Lets go back to what you said here "I think we have all said there are things that Donald Trump has failed to do or done wrong" and work from a point of agreement. Obviously very few who supported Trump wanted more war in the middle east, much less did they want Trump threatening to attack Iran. It was another huge blunder on his part. You seem to be hung up on the middle east debacle and you don't realize how very unpopular it is among the American people. So lets skip past it for now simply because going back and forth on it is getting no where. You know my points on it, the points have a ton of work already laid out in another thread, and rehashing it every post isn't doing either of us any good.

So what criticisms do you have of Trump? I'm not a fan of him pushing globohomo around the globe either, but it isn't as big of an impact on the dying middle class as his other blunders. Do you have specific criticisms of Trump? I have many outside of the Middle East, though threatening Iran right before an election might be his final mistake combined with his performance in the debate and saying there would be no covid relief before the election.

Trump allowing more H-1B visa workers than ever before in the midst of an economic crisis AFTER claiming he would stop H-1B workers due to the crisis.

Trump cutting the deportations in almost half from the Obama years.

Trump doing absolutely nothing about internet censorship, knowing it might cost him the election.

Trump doing absolutely nothing about Antifa and BLM while they burn down entire city blocks and destroy billions in infrastructure and kill his supporters.

Trump hiring Never Trumpers to fill the ranks and tossing his supporters aside.

Trump giving $5 trillion to Wall Street banks so they can get bailed out on bad stock investments and then use the profits to buy up Chinese investments.

The list is very long.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Because both parties are playing for the same team.

 

[budoslavic]

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

No criminal charges after the conclusion of the unmasking probe. Another Trump/Barr failure.

 

[AnonymousBosch]

Do you have anything to offer me that doesn't leave me in a useless place of conjuncture? Or am I not far enough down your simple 5 point plan charade?

I've presented evidence again and again over the last four years. No-one ever reads it. IIMT's mistake is trying to change the mind of Americans, who are emotional creatures who don't respond to facts, evidence or reason, whether on the political right of left, and simply seem unable to discern good from evil. I've told him repeatedly to just let it go, and let events play out.

Think about this:



So, you have Gentiles who rejected the Church Jesus founded, believing it to be Satanic, worshipping a Masonic Monument in imitation of people who call themselves Jews, but are not, since they're from Russia, not Judea, in imitation of people who rejected Jesus as Messiah and whose temple God's Will was to destroy, who believe that by destroying every Multi-Faith Middle-Eastern nation, allowing the Muslims to take over, will somehow protect a country called Israel but was oddly-founded by the Satanic Rothschild family, and this somehow will make God bless America, which is an obvious truth since it has pride parades, widespread abortion, drag queen story hour and produces most of the world's pornography, and that this can best be done by helping the Jews rebuild the temple, even though it's part of the prophecy of the anti-christ. If I pointed out how retarded this is to them, I'll be abused as a Satan Worshipper, since my church is full of freemasons, despite the monument they're leaning against, plus all the Judeo-Freemasonic signalling their President has evidenced throughout his entire life, and his devoted support of the Rothschild State of Israel, and the overwhelming presence of Jews in his cabinet.

The Russian view on the forthcoming election is pretty straight forward: if Trump wins, Iran gets well-armed and funded internal groups of fighters designed to destablize the country from within. If Biden wins, Iran gets a widespread people's uprising and a colour revolution, and to prevent both, they're willing to go to war to destroy Liberalism finally and the US / Israel / UAE 'axis of evil' and believe they have been chosen by God to do so, in the name of building the new Eurasian Project: an alliance with China and Iran, and other small nations like Belarus, whose colour revolution started... huh... under Trump. A few other countries are experiencing this at the moment, all of them important to Russia.

The Leftist Government just arrested the entire Right Wing Nationalist Golden Dawn party and jailed them, thanks to the intervention of American Jewish Groups, all based around the death of one member of Antifa. Imagine if Trump had the stones to do the same thing in reverse... except, Netanyahu praised the decision and thanked Greece's Left Wing Government. You'd think Trump, who says he's a strong nationalist fighting The Left, would have condemned this action and mentioned sanctions, but that would do something more involved than tweeting to blind sheep.

IIMT: step back, whatever happens to America is not your concern. Get right with God.

 

[It_is_my_time]

IIMT: step back, whatever happens to America is not your concern. Get right with God.

I greatly appreciate it. It certainly isn't emotional for me to post here. I don't get any excitement about "being right" or "knowing more than others". I just have a brain that operates the way it does, which is to gather as much information about things that bother me. In this case it is "why isn't Trump helping his supporters or the nation in general?" and I have found the answers. I feel it is my duty to share the answers. It probably doesn't matter because the most blue pill, hardcore, Trump supporters don't read this thread anyway. The worship of a false idol is extremely strong with Trump.

I will say, I always found Trump boorish, low class, and questionable at best. But I must give the man credit, he has become the pied piper for the frustrated middle class man who feels his country is falling apart. The problem is it is these very men who are needed to save the west and they have this orange clown up there leading them to get into fist fights over masks and cheering on starting yet another middle east war. It is why Biden is probably the best choice for Christians of these two clowns. At least with Biden, when he allows Antifa to beat up cops and allows BLM to burn down businesses and talks about starting a war in the Middle East, the frustrated average man is more aware and resistant against it. And Christians can then actually support no more war and not argue about petty things like masks while transgenderism is taught to their 3rd graders.

 

[Castelnau]

Trump should be tweeting about FB and Twitter censoring the NY Post story non-stop. He just does one tweet among many campaign tweets so it gets lost in the shuffle.



He will not get even 1% higher than what he got in 2016 from black voters. Working with Ice Cube, constantly sucking up to black people, getting some stupid rapper out jail in Sweden, helping some stupid college basketball player, Kanye, the Platinum Plan. It will get him nothing. Should've just focused on whites, seniors, and the wildcard: Hispanic voters. He could've done something to reach out just to let Hispanics save face so they could vote for him or at least not vote for Biden out of spite for Trump. Complete waste to try to court the black vote, no doubt an idea of Idiot Jared.

 

[It_is_my_time]

It will be better if the false idol loses and people stop putting faith in bad actors. Don't worry fellas, he has been monitoring the situation for a year and a half. He gave Jack Dorsey a giant tax cut and rewarded him for censoring his base. He will not even mention it if it is necessary for him to win reelection. What a giant cuck.

 

[It_is_my_time]

I forgot about Trump's Department of State, under Pompeo, is flooding the US with H-1B visa workers in the midst of an economic crisis. I certainly hope no one here believes Trump or anyone in DC will do anything about tech censorship.

 

[Castelnau]

Is Rudy this years Julian Assange? Help Trump win the election through leaks, then be put in prison while Trump does nothing to help him.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Is Rudy this years Julian Assange? Help Trump win the election through leaks, then be put in prison while Trump does nothing to help him.

Seems possible, though I was listening to a podcast not long ago and they were going over some of the people he defended and it seems like he is an insider, unlike Assange.