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paninaro

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It will be better if the false idol loses and people stop putting faith in bad actors. Don't worry fellas, he has been monitoring the situation for a year and a half. He gave Jack Dorsey a giant tax cut and rewarded him for censoring his base. He will not even mention it if it is necessary for him to win reelection. What a giant cuck.

And the budget deficit hit a record of $3.1 trillion this year:

That's money that all of us and our children will eventually have to pay back.
 
I just heard that 65% of working Americans are making less than $50,000 per year. Average debt of people 18-35 increased by 58% in the last 5 years.

This economy is a complete disaster.

So how is this Trump's fault? I don't disagree with the statement. The people's own stupidity is to blame even on the right. The Federal Reserve is the biggest issue creating this problem along with taxation. Too many people think there is a free lunch. No one in government has any balls either to cut back anything even when they know it's useless. Who would miss AmTrak, NPR, or Dept. of Education?
 
So how is this Trump's fault? I don't disagree with the statement. The people's own stupidity is to blame even on the right. The Federal Reserve is the biggest issue creating this problem along with taxation. Too many people think there is a free lunch. No one in government has any balls either to cut back anything even when they know it's useless. Who would miss AmTrak, NPR, or Dept. of Education?

He has had 4 years to cut off immigration, instead he embarrassingly said he wanted record numbers of legal immigrants.

He had 4 years to fix healthcare, instead he did nothing about it and doesn't even have a plan to fix it.

He had 4 years to address the massive amount of wealth going to the few billionaires sitting at the top. Instead he gave them a giant tax cut.

He had 4 years to address tech censorship so we can discuss this. Instead he did nothing and now his main stream supporters are being banned.

It is time to move on and realize both parties, including Trump, are owned by the same small group of elite billionaires. And Trump is a false prophet at best.
 
Why does Trump repeat everything at every rally? It's a strange thing to do. He doesn't customize his speeches at all?

He is told what he can and cannot say, so he repeats the same very generic lines, with a little pomp and the growing desperate people hope he actually means it. Unfortunately he likely will get nothing accomplished to help any of us and if we save ourselves the time and energy worrying about it, we will be that much further along.
 
He has had 4 years to cut off immigration, instead he embarrassingly said he wanted record numbers of legal immigrants.

He had 4 years to fix healthcare, instead he did nothing about it and doesn't even have a plan to fix it.

He had 4 years to address the massive amount of wealth going to the few billionaires sitting at the top. Instead he gave them a giant tax cut.

He had 4 years to address tech censorship so we can discuss this. Instead he did nothing and now his main stream supporters are being banned.

It is time to move on and realize both parties, including Trump, are owned by the same small group of elite billionaires. And Trump is a false prophet at best.

1. Immigration - I agree, he should have been more aggressive about this from the beginning. Ivanka and (((Jared))) really should have stayed in NYC. He did get AMLO of Mexico to keep a lid on the caravans and made them stay in Mexico for asylum applications. I can't imagine another president of either party doing that. I'm against more legal immigration.

2. Healthcare - thanks to the communist McPoopStain, we were lucky that most of it is demolished. Personally, I don't really think it should be replaced with anything. He did try to get drug companies to advertise prices and hospitals to post prices; both show down by Obummer judges to the best of my knowledge. Americans can buy from Canada for some things easier though I don't think this is a good long term solution. The insurance and government monopoly needs to be broken.

3. What's the solution here? It's only natural when you cut the rates, those paying more will pay less. I did pay less which helped me. Small businesses, or small corporations, did benefit from this. Besides, the big guys have ways not to pay to begin with.

4. Yes, it's frustrating that more was not done here.

Trump did stand up to China and Iran. Pulled out of the asinine climate accord or at least debased. He has shown that both parties are the problem but maybe not by design. He craps on the press on a daily basis. Some decent federal judge appointments. Did not use EO's to go after guns though Barr and some other appointments are problematic.

This is has probably as good as it's going to get before the country breaks apart.
 
1. Immigration - I agree, he should have been more aggressive about this from the beginning. Ivanka and (((Jared))) really should have stayed in NYC. He did get AMLO of Mexico to keep a lid on the caravans and made them stay in Mexico for asylum applications. I can't imagine another president of either party doing that. I'm against more legal immigration.

2. Healthcare - thanks to the communist McPoopStain, we were lucky that most of it is demolished. Personally, I don't really think it should be replaced with anything. He did try to get drug companies to advertise prices and hospitals to post prices; both show down by Obummer judges to the best of my knowledge. Americans can buy from Canada for some things easier though I don't think this is a good long term solution. The insurance and government monopoly needs to be broken.

3. What's the solution here? It's only natural when you cut the rates, those paying more will pay less. I did pay less which helped me. Small businesses, or small corporations, did benefit from this. Besides, the big guys have ways not to pay to begin with.

4. Yes, it's frustrating that more was not done here.

Trump did stand up to China and Iran. Pulled out of the asinine climate accord or at least debased. He has shown that both parties are the problem but maybe not by design. He craps on the press on a daily basis. Some decent federal judge appointments. Did not use EO's to go after guns though Barr and some other appointments are problematic.

This is has probably as good as it's going to get before the country breaks apart.

1. He had 4 years to fire Kushner. Obviously Kushner is above reproach under Trump.

2. The problem is too much wealth has floated to the top and even people securely in the middle class are one accident and/or layoff away from bankruptcy.

3. Cut taxes on middle class and small business and raise taxes sky high on people like Jeff Bezos who are destroying the nation and profiting big time off of it.

4. The point is things are getting worse and no one is going to save us. So our energy should be spent with this in mind and not in supporting a blowhard who can't get anything done, whether by design (likely) or not.
 
Good points, though regardless, I'll be voting for Trump and probably all Republican at least in Texas.

Sadly, Texas is stuck with the cuck Cornyn who should register as foreign agent given his immigration stance or lack of thereof. It's notable that a lot of Republicans hate Trump, so there must be something or someone upsetting the apple carts of grift in DC.

Libertarians, or libertardians, as I like to call them, have become infected with the leftist stupidity of equality when they are not sitting around dreaming of smoking dope all day.
 
Good points, though regardless, I'll be voting for Trump and probably all Republican at least in Texas.

Sadly, Texas is stuck with the cuck Cornyn who should register as foreign agent given his immigration stance or lack of thereof. It's notable that a lot of Republicans hate Trump, so there must be something or someone upsetting the apple carts of grift in DC.

Libertarians, or libertardians, as I like to call them, have become infected with the leftist stupidity of equality when they are not sitting around dreaming of smoking dope all day.

Sounds good. I will not insult someone for voting for Trump or try to convince them to vote for Biden. I just hate seeing so many quality men putting their faith and hope in Trump. It is a dangerous situation. But it seems you have a very level head about it and I certainly support your right to choose and your polite comments on the subject.
 

kosko

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He has had 4 years to cut off immigration, instead he embarrassingly said he wanted record numbers of legal immigrants.

He had 4 years to fix healthcare, instead he did nothing about it and doesn't even have a plan to fix it.

He had 4 years to address the massive amount of wealth going to the few billionaires sitting at the top. Instead he gave them a giant tax cut.

He had 4 years to address tech censorship so we can discuss this. Instead he did nothing and now his main stream supporters are being banned.

It is time to move on and realize both parties, including Trump, are owned by the same small group of elite billionaires. And Trump is a false prophet at best.


You do realize healthcare is not a walk in the park. Obama was handed the ACA complete plan when he won his first election during his transition phase in Chicago and was simply tasked to "sell" ACA/Obamacare to the people and Congress (ACA was built by Insurance and Lobbyists hacks behind the scenes). It basically took up his entire first-term. Trump has to strip away ACA as much as possible and then re-build a program to supplement it. A program that has to integrate with insurance providers, legislation and budget allocation while fending off the legal/political attacks/hold-ups along the way it will face.

I don't think Trump understood how complex the mess was and miscalculated that he could jam and kill with a combination of executive and Congressional action (Congress bullet did not hit). It was always going to be a 2-term project for that. You like complaining about Trump's slow movement on health care reform. Still, you won't call out supposed trusted establishment RHINOs/GOP who killed the momentum - where is the blame for John McCain being a cuck and killing the Congressional bullet that would have killed ACA off?

Remember, policy formation does not fit within election cycles or windows. Crony bureaucrats and lobbyists work in the shadows to create and move the mechanisms of the policy behind the scenes. My take is that Trump had to take some time from the start to learn and understand how the systems worked. It was a revolving door of advisors at the start, and he did not benefit from stalled appointments as well. It is all much easier if you are a typical establishment hack who picks up the ball and continues the game. As I mentioned, Obama just picked up the binder and went with it, he didn't have the actual work of building the plan, which was done before him.
 
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Sounds good. I will not insult someone for voting for Trump or try to convince them to vote for Biden. I just hate seeing so many quality men putting their faith and hope in Trump. It is a dangerous situation. But it seems you have a very level head about it and I certainly support your right to choose and your polite comments on the subject.
I hear you. Trump was the first time I showed up to a presidential election in 20 years. I actually sent money to former Congressman Ron Paul in '08 and '12. The system will simply have to implode on it's own contradictions like the Soviet Union.

As you can see, I despise both parties collectively. The sad truth though is that most Americans are too stupid to live under the Bill of Rights or anything resembling some freedom.
 
You do realize healthcare is not a walk in the park. Obama was handed the ACA complete plan when he won his first election during his transition phase in Chicago and was simply tasked to "sell" ACA/Obamacare to the people and Congress (ACA was built by Insurance and Lobbyists hacks behind the scenes). It basically took up his entire first-term. Trump has to strip away ACA as much as possible and then re-build a program to supplement it. A program that has to integrate with insurance providers, legislation and budget allocation while fending off the legal/political attacks/hold-ups along the way it will face.

I don't think Trump understood how complex the mess was and miscalculated that he could jam and kill with a combination of executive and Congressional action (Congress bullet did not hit). It was always going to be a 2-term project for that. You like complaining about Trump's slow movement on health care reform. Still, you won't call out trusted establishment RHINOs/GOP who killed the momentum - where is the blame for John McCain being a cuck and killing the Congressional bullet that would have killed ACA off?

Remember, a policy formation does not fit within election cycles or windows. Crony bureaucrats and lobbyists work in the shadows to create and move the mechanisms of policies. My take is that Trump had to take some time from the start to learn and understand how the systems worked. It was a revolving door of advisors at the start, and he did not benefit from stalled appointments as well. It is all much easier if you are a typical establishment hack who picks up the ball and continues the game. As I mentioned, Obama just picked up the binder and went with it, he didn't have the actual work of building the plan, which was done before him.

The healthcare problem is incredibly simply and the causes of the healthcare problem is the same as almost every problem in the USA.

Too much wealth and power is in the hands of a few elites who hate the American people and there are too many people in the USA for the resources available. And these problems will never be solved under the current system because these same elites own the politicians on both sides.
 
This article pretty much sums of the healthcare situation though it was written 2013. Obummer care has not changed this but made it worse. Even my family doctor, and older gentleman, comments on being trapped with the BS from insurance companies and government regulations.

 

kosko

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The healthcare problem is incredibly simply and the causes of the healthcare problem is the same as almost every problem in the USA.

Too much wealth and power is in the hands of a few elites who hate the American people and there are too many people in the USA for the resources available. And these problems will never be solved under the current system because these same elites own the politicians on both sides.

Healthcare in the USA is a double-edged sword. On one hand, the market-focused approach has created high levels of innovation and elite care. On the other hand, access is shotty and pricing is not harmonized either.

Having the USA adopt a single-payer system that is closer to Canada or the UK isn't operable or realistic. It will have to be some hybrid formula that still keeps in place the positive aspects while ensuring access and more clarity on price. With technology, IMO, can be achievable but it will be a long process to create that solution.
 
Healthcare in the USA is a double-edged sword. On one hand, the market-focused approach has created high levels of innovation and elite care. On the other hand, access is shotty and pricing is not harmonized either.

Having the USA adopt a single-payer system that is closer to Canada or the UK isn't operable or realistic. It will have to be some hybrid formula that still keeps in place the positive aspects while ensuring access and more clarity on price. With technology, IMO, can be achievable but it will be a long process to create that solution that can check as many boxes as possible.

I agree 100%. But it will never be allowed by the billionaires. It will continue to be a squeeze, a threat to not lose your job and toe the corporate line or else lose your healthcare and face ruin for life.
 

kosko

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I agree 100%. But it will never be allowed by the billionaires. It will continue to be a squeeze, a threat to not lose your job and toe the corporate line or else lose your healthcare and face ruin for life.

Sure, but an innovative healthcare system would create a new market and create new billionaires. Simply pivoting the waste of war machine companies to use expertise towards building robust secure systems along with Tech that is too busy on stealing our personal data to sell to Tel Aviv and Beijing. Then the last aspect would be to strip away the power of the MD lobby which inflates "expertise" to cost way more than it needs too. GPs are overrated and charge too much. Specialists are fine as they provide a much-needed skillset but your GP can automate much of what it does and have nurses do the rest. Big MD creates a system where we overpay MDs to jot down notes and sign-off on simple things that bloats the cost of service and care.
 
Some good things Trump did:

1. Tax Cuts - I've seen the spreadsheet done by an accountant of before and after. Most people got more money back.
2. Pulled us out of the Paris Accords and put down AGW as the stupidity it has always been.
3. Kept us out of new wars more or less for now.
4. Spoke out against the military/industrial complex. The last president with a nice looking wife who did that got shot.
5. Inadvertently showed that the press and both parties are sacks of waste who work against the average American.
6. Mostly abolished Obummercare. Though I"m unhappy with him trying to 'replace it'. Get government out of healthcare already!
7. Kicked the CCP out of the port of LA. I'm sure (((Feinstein))) was unhappy about it.
8. Tried to get hospitals and drug companies to post prices - both shot down I believe by an Obummer judges. Changed it so some Americans could by the drugs they need from Canada and other countries. I'm sure big Pharma hates Trump for this one.
9. Has not openly tried to abolish the 2nd Amendment though I'm still suspect on his real thoughts, but he knows this is a big issue.
10. He did get some minorities to finally wake up a bit - Latinos for Trump, BLEXIT.
 
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