Complaints of Donald Trump thread

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Deepdiver

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When a different party takes over the Presidency, policy changes go with the territory. However, the Democratic Party has gotten so extreme that you don’t have to just worry about higher taxes, weakness abroad, and new government programs. There are some potentially radical norm shattering shifts that we could see if Joe Biden wins the presidency and his party is able to capture the Senate. If Joe Biden becomes President, you can no longer take for granted that…

1) That we’ll have 9 members of the Supreme Court: There have been 9 justices on the Supreme Court since 1869, but Democrats are so upset that Donald Trump got to pick 3 justices that they’re now seriously discussing packing the Supreme Court. Both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have rather famously refused to say whether they’ll support that, so it’s a real possibility. Unfortunately, the moment the Democrats pack the court, the Constitution effectively ceases to exist, and the law becomes whatever the Democrats want it to be.




2) That the police will be there if there’s trouble: What you’re seeing in many liberal cities is regular rioting supported by government officials. The police aren’t allowed to use effective tactics to stop the riots and worse yet, in many cases, the district attorneys simply release the vast majority of the rioters without charges. In those situations, the police inevitably pull back because there’s no point in arresting people that will be on the streets free and clear the next day with the blessing of the DA. So, what happens when people with that mentality control the Department of Justice? Could you see the DOJ go after police departments for doing their jobs? Absolutely. Could you see the DOJ under Biden accuse police departments of being racist for not letting protesters block traffic or harass people in residential neighborhoods? Absolutely. There a lot of Democrats that want to turn every city in America into Minneapolis or Portland and under Joe Biden, they may increasingly get their way.

3) That you won’t be locked down again: The lockdowns were completely ineffective at stopping the Coronavirus and they did devastating damage to the economy. Although there’s no chance Trump would lock the country down again, Joe Biden has said he is willing to do it. As the Wall Street Journal noted:

Asked in an ABC interview airing Sunday night whether he’d be willing to shut down the economy again to head off a new wave of coronavirus infection, he replied: “I would shut it down. I would listen to the scientists.” Ah, the resort to scientists. But which scientists? The truth is that the experts have been wrong numerous times in this pandemic, and they often disagree.
Which scientists would catch Joe Biden’s ear? Whichever ones say what the Left wants to hear. Given that Democrats are absolutely terrified of the Coronavirus, it is well within the realm of possibility that Joe Biden would try to shut us down again.

4) That we’ll have a stable government: One of the other changes near and dear to the hearts of Democrats is getting rid of the filibuster in the Senate. If that were to happen and Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency, they could do anything they wanted. The Green New Deal, banning guns, reparations, making Puerto Rico a state, you name it. Of course, those moves would probably be unpopular, which could mean that the Republicans could take over, promptly reverse everything the Democrats did, and make their own sweeping changes. Those types of wild shifts would be bad for the public, bad for the economy, and would lead to instability.

5) That we’ll have another fair election: Of course, there would be a simple solution to the problem posed in #4. You change the rules so that the other side can never take power again. If the Democrats packed the Supreme Court (which they are considering) and got rid of the filibuster for legislation (which they are considering), it would be very easy for them to change the rules of the game to lock Republicans out of power. If the Democrats didn’t do it and Republicans got back into power, the GOP would be fools not to do it because eventually, the Democrats would. It’s an ugly scenario that would lead to the end of the United States as we know it, but there are quite a few powerful Democrats that would consider that a price worth paying for getting their way.

Would Joe Biden or his likely replacement in a year or three, Kamala Harris, do these things? We can’t know for sure, but every scenario addressed here is a realistic possibility. Look at what the Democratic Party has become and ask yourself how sure you are that they can be counted on to put the good of the country ahead of the nation-killing policies their base will be howling for in 2021 if they win. The only real hope we’d have on that front would be that a handful of Democratic holdouts would spoil their plans and given how disciplined the Democrats tend to be when they really want something, it’s impossible to even count on that
 

kosko

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Joe Biden doesn't have to win in 2020 for any of that to happen. It will happen anyway when Trump ensures the Democrats become the super majority party by 2024.

Even if you sealed the borders now and kept them closed America already has a tumour inside attacking it. The demographic game with California already hinders the USA and its population spread going forward. As California flounders the larger the exodus to flip over States such as Arizona, Texas, Tennesee bringing with them the same crap mentality at the ballot boxes.
 
Even if you sealed the borders now and kept them closed America already has a tumour inside attacking it. The demographic game with California already hinders the USA and its population spread going forward. As California flounders the larger the exodus to flip over States such as Arizona, Texas, Tennesee bringing with them the same crap mentality at the ballot boxes.

Correct. There are a lot of great podcasts out there that go into depth about this. Most agree if Trump had gone hardcore in 2017 there was a slight chance to save the country. But by now it is too late, which is why I put no energy into Trump or this election. It doesn't matter who wins, the country will become extremely bad/violent in the next 10 to 20 years, no matter who wins.
 

For the grumpy Anti Trumpers, People en mass vote their wallets.

The economy was bad by any true metric before coronavirus. Then the bottom fell out and Trump gave the American people a small amount and gave his billionaire wall street friends $5 trillion so they could invest in Chinese stocks.

If Trump loses it will be a mix of him turning off women with his behavior and not helping the lower middle class that flipped D to R to vote for him in 2016.
 

kosko

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Those are larger issues Trump can't fix. Heritage White Americans don't have kids, Heritage Black Americans abort them, and both have meagre population growth prospects overall. The population game is complicated; I am not saying you keep the door open for anyone, but the fix the issues you have in the 2020s, you had to take action in the 1990s and 2000s. What Trump gives you is the ability to save yourself. He is not the path to fix the wound already there, but he can stop the bleeding.

From an outside view, the major issue that will have to fix itself is that the two-party system in the USA is not sustainable. The game has been going to give the illusion of choice by the establishment, but now, we see the development of splits that are too large to ignore. There will have to be the development of a Progressive party and a real Heritage/Convesrtive party. The establishment would then be forced to merge the GOP/DEMs if they want to remain in power and end the two-party game they have been running for decades. You would then hope that with the rules changed to allow more political parties than more come up to dilute the establishment power-grab. It is very Americana to have Red vs Blue. Still, it is a system that has left American open to abuse for decades now and needs to be diluted to return any semblance of legitimacy to its political process at large past the Trump-Era.
 
Those are larger issues Trump can't fix. Heritage White Americans don't have kids, Heritage Black Americans abort them, and both have meagre population growth prospects overall. The population game is complicated; I am not saying you keep the door open for anyone, but the fix the issues you have in the 2020s, you had to take action in the 1990s and 2000s. What Trump gives you is the ability to save yourself. He is not the path to fix the wound already there, but he can stop the bleeding.

From an outside view, the major issue that will have to fix itself is that the two-party system in the USA is not sustainable. The game has been going to give the illusion of choice by the establishment, but now, we see the development of splits that are too large to ignore. There will have to be the development of a Progressive party and a real Heritage/Convesrtive party. The establishment would then be forced to merge the GOP/DEMs if they want to remain in power and end the two-party game they have been running for decades. You would then hope that with the rules changed to allow more political parties than more come up to dilute the establishment power-grab. It is very Americana to have Red vs Blue. Still, it is a system that has left American open to abuse for decades now and needs to be diluted to return any semblance of legitimacy to its political process at large past the Trump-Era.

Heritage White Americans don't have kids due to economic hardships. That is easy to fix, take the trillions upon trillions the billionaires have stolen from the middle class and get it back in their hands. Of course the current system will never do that, so it will just get worse.

I'm not even sure if Trump is the acceleration candidate or not. A lot of debate about that as well, many former Trump supporters who threw in the towel on the fraud in 2017 are not back to supporting Trump just because they think he is acceleration. The last few months seem to be acceleration.

But everything you have said is 100% correct as far as the fake two-party system, owned by the same few elites, giving us a false illusion of choice.
 

Deepdiver

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Even on a down day from .786 to .618 on the daily S&P the continuation of the minor 4th down of the Major 5th wave up... Some very positive facts:

Monday's U.S. economic data was supportive for stocks after the U.S. Oct NAHB housing market index unexpectedly rose +2 to an all-time high of 85 (data from 1985), stronger than expectations of unchanged at 83. So no the Covid is not collapsing the economy and yet the CCP loving Grumpy Anti Trumpy Black pillers stay gloom and doom negative... All the guys I know in the trades are busy as beavers.
 
Even on a down day from .786 to .618 on the daily S&P the continuation of the minor 4th down of the Major 5th wave up... Some very positive facts:

Monday's U.S. economic data was supportive for stocks after the U.S. Oct NAHB housing market index unexpectedly rose +2 to an all-time high of 85 (data from 1985), stronger than expectations of unchanged at 83. So no the Covid is not collapsing the economy and yet the CCP loving Grumpy Anti Trumpy Black pillers stay gloom and doom negative... All the guys I know in the trades are busy as beavers.

Only the top 5% of Americans own enough stock to even enjoy this bubble run up. Which obvious has no reflection on the economy and is really now an inverse of the economy. Bad economic news? More out of control borrowing sending the USD value lower and force investors into stocks.
 

EndlessGravity

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All the guys I know in the trades are busy as beavers.

Stock traders aren't known for their brains. I'd say just the opposite, from my personal experience. There was some good data in Sept but we need 6 months of that and we might still be very screwed. The chances of that happening are slim to none.

When you turn to other data in jobs, treasuries, trade, real estate, it still looks so OUTRAGEOUSLY ugly...You'd have to be stupid to think things aren't on the verge of imploding.

I'm not a blackpiller; I just know how to make money. :p
 
Stock traders aren't known for their brains. I'd say just the opposite, from my personal experience. There was some good data in Sept but we need 6 months of that and we might still be very screwed. The chances of that happening are slim to none.

When you turn to other data in jobs, treasuries, trade, real estate, it still looks so OUTRAGEOUSLY ugly...You'd have to be stupid to think things aren't on the verge of imploding.

I'm not a blackpiller; I just know how to make money. :p

Over 50% of 18-35 year olds are living with their parents, an all time record. Debt has increased among the 18-35 year old range by 58% in the last 5 years.

The economy is in shambles and we still haven't even faced the reality of the massive debt bubble yet.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
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Stock traders aren't known for their brains. I'd say just the opposite, from my personal experience. There was some good data in Sept but we need 6 months of that and we might still be very screwed. The chances of that happening are slim to none.

When you turn to other data in jobs, treasuries, trade, real estate, it still looks so OUTRAGEOUSLY ugly...You'd have to be stupid to think things aren't on the verge of imploding.

I'm not a blackpiller; I just know how to make money. :p


In the "Trades" means electricians, plumbers, HVAC, roofers etc...
 

Neo

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The economy was/is fine for me and still is during COVID. In fact Trumps term has been the best for me in my life, I know I'm not alone.

Most Americans who say the economy is bad fall into a few camps.

1) They lack financial literacy (spend way too much, no savings, bad habits like hookers or drugs)

2) Have a useless degree. In this case the universities are partially to blame by making false promises.

3) Lack work ethic or suck at their jobs. Most people I meet are lazy or they 'coast' doing the bare minimum at a job, never updating their skills.

4) Bad soft skills such as communication or networking.

5) Lack confidence, don't go after opportunities.

Now there are situations where people legitimately fall on hard times. Widowed, illness, divorce, bad luck. I feel for them, even then you can't let the dark clouds linger.

I made near minimum wage first job I had out of university. There were days I thought I'd NEVER get out. But I kept fighting through all the dark times. Then slowly things happen, hard work pays off. I can get married and have a family. If my future wife made my income we'd be very well off. It's really not that hard and I grew up poor. I don't think I'm unique, but maybe I am since most people don't succeed in Jiujitsu either.

Grit + tenacity + incremental effort = success.
 
The economy was/is fine for me and still is during COVID. In fact Trumps term has been the best for me in my life, I know I'm not alone.

Most Americans who say the economy is bad fall into a few camps.

1) They lack financial literacy (spend way too much, no savings, bad habits like hookers or drugs)

2) Have a useless degree. In this case the universities are partially to blame by making false promises.

3) Lack work ethic or suck at their jobs. Most people I meet are lazy or they 'coast' doing the bare minimum at a job, never updating their skills.

4) Bad soft skills such as communication or networking.

5) Lack confidence, don't go after opportunities.

Now there are situations where people legitimately fall on hard times. Widowed, illness, divorce, bad luck. I feel for them, even then you can't let the dark clouds linger.

I made near minimum wage first job I had out of university. There were days I thought I'd NEVER get out. But I kept fighting through all the dark times. Then slowly things happen, hard work pays off. I can get married and have a family. If my future wife made my income we'd be very well off. It's really not that hard and I grew up poor. I don't think I'm unique, but maybe I am since most people don't succeed in Jiujitsu either.

Grit + tenacity + incremental effort = success.

I don't think anyone here is looking at the economy based on the impact of their life. If they are, they are missing the forest for the trees. The economy is a disaster, if you have done well, then good for you. But don't get too confident because this bad economy will continue to get worse and impact more people.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
The economy was/is fine for me and still is during COVID. In fact Trumps term has been the best for me in my life, I know I'm not alone.

Most Americans who say the economy is bad fall into a few camps.

1) They lack financial literacy (spend way too much, no savings, bad habits like hookers or drugs)

2) Have a useless degree. In this case the universities are partially to blame by making false promises.

3) Lack work ethic or suck at their jobs. Most people I meet are lazy or they 'coast' doing the bare minimum at a job, never updating their skills.

4) Bad soft skills such as communication or networking.

5) Lack confidence, don't go after opportunities.

Now there are situations where people legitimately fall on hard times. Widowed, illness, divorce, bad luck. I feel for them, even then you can't let the dark clouds linger.

I made near minimum wage first job I had out of university. There were days I thought I'd NEVER get out. But I kept fighting through all the dark times. Then slowly things happen, hard work pays off. I can get married and have a family. If my future wife made my income we'd be very well off. It's really not that hard and I grew up poor. I don't think I'm unique, but maybe I am since most people don't succeed in Jiujitsu either.

Grit + tenacity + incremental effort = success.

It is really great to read something positive and uplifting in this thread versus the Black Pilled whining weiners.

Thank You Neo!
 
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