Complaints of Donald Trump thread

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
More bad news for Trump. The Federal Reserve today testified they are not willing to go to negative interest rates, citing that they did not work in Europe or Japan.

Trump has spent years lying about the economy. Citing the stock market as "evidence of a great economy" which is laughable at best. The only reason the stock market was up was due to the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates at low levels and now pushing it down to nearly 0.

Now the pump for the stock market bubble has been removed. It is too bad Trump didn't do the right thing 3+ years ago.
 
Oh dear Christ no.... that will bring the liberal troll wave down on us so fast. Oops... only at 30.
My only point I was trying to make was that suspending the 50 post rule on political discussion for an anti-Trump thread would invite trolls / abuse. I'll try my best not to make a political opinion until I hit 50. Only posting this to clarify my intent.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
1 in 3 working aged Americans are out of work right now and legal immigration is still running out of control. 70% of the previous immigrants went straight on to welfare.

Trump's boss Kushner is working a deal to double the H-1B visa workers. Sorry all you fellow posters who work in tech or wanted to do so.

Trump's DOJ works overtime to harass his supporters and yet doesn't lift a finger to fight antifa.

Trump's boy Mnuchin thinks $1,200 is enough for families to live on for a few months.

And his posts this silly cringe. Just embarrassing.

 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
^I think posting the word cringe is pretty much cringe, but damn...

...that's some serious cringe.
LOL, I agree. A lot of the "trust the plan" guys post the word "cringe" so I don't like to use it much. But I couldn't think of a better word to use in this instance.

It really is remarkable to watch. First you had Obama then you had Trump. We will probably end up with 16 straight years of con-artists who simply say what a large group of people want to hear and never follow through with any promises and then be considered a "hero" by the said groups.

Obama did absolutely nothing to help the African American community, he hurt them greatly. He did nothing to help the labor unions, he crushed them. Trump has done nothing to help rural Americans, out of work blue collar Americans, or even highly skilled Americans. And yet these people as a group still strongly support their "leader". So they can get away with silly nonsense like this tweet he posted.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
LOL, we are 6 months from the election and Trump is pushing the anti-Trump grifter and getting 33 thousand likes on the tweet. Talk about dying energy and attacking your own base. This clown has the political acumen of a rock. May 2016 the campaign was on fire. May 2020, you forget there is even an election coming up or maybe even that you "won" the election in 2016.

 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Trump's boy Barr has said that it is unlikely Biden or Obama are going to be investigated.

I think Banana Republic status has just about been achieved when Cleetus the slack jawed yokel could put a credible case together against the so-called opposition but the "top men" can't seem to pin the tail on the donkey when they're literally surrounded by asses.

The levels of cognitive dissonance required to maintain suspension of disbelief in The System and its operators are going to be so immense going forward that they will by definition require undertaking spiritual and mental illness.

May God have mercy on their souls.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Trump's boy Barr has said that it is unlikely Biden or Obama are going to be investigated.

I think Banana Republic status has just about been achieved when Cleetus the slack jawed yokel could put a credible case together against the so-called opposition but the "top men" can't seem to pin the tail on the donkey when they're literally surrounded by asses.

The levels of cognitive dissonance required to maintain suspension of disbelief in The System and its operators are going to be so immense going forward that they will by definition require undertaking spiritual and mental illness.

May God have mercy on their souls.
tRusT thE plAn!!!
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Fuentes is either a little slow on the uptake or trying cut against the wind without stalling but I believe what he's heading towards is "we were tricked from the start".

Doesn't matter. Trump will get a second term no matter how obvious his nature as a con-man is and the smart people in the room will eschew politics in favor of walking closer to God.

DC is a cesspit of satanic pedophiles and once the first year of Trump's administration passed with no major arrests we should have come to our senses and stopped throwing good effort after bad. For anyone still lagging I have to say, they should give serious consideration that they may not merely be supporting an impotent hero but a true conniving villain.
 
For many the problem is cognitive dissonance and admitting they were wrong. My brother is a huge Trump supporter and he gets hounded by everyone else in the fam. With this recent stuff he's begun to just throw his hands up in the air and say "what can you do". If you mention that Trump may have been suspect from the beginning he says "nah nah its just this situation etc etc". How many supporters of Trump are willing to admit they are wrong on anything.....let alone a person they may have given everything to socially. I doubt it, most of his base will ride with him to the end...even if its to a fema forced vaccination military run concentration camp.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
For many the problem is cognitive dissonance and admitting they were wrong. My brother is a huge Trump supporter and he gets hounded by everyone else in the fam. With this recent stuff he's begun to just throw his hands up in the air and say "what can you do". If you mention that Trump may have been suspect from the beginning he says "nah nah its just this situation etc etc". How many supporters of Trump are willing to admit they are wrong on anything.....let alone a person they may have given everything to socially. I doubt it, most of his base will ride with him to the end...even if its to a fema forced vaccination military run concentration camp.
It is far easier to fool someone than it is to get someone to admit they were fooled. Certainly a lot of that in the shrinking Trump base. Luckily for Trump it appears he will go head to head with a DC swamp creature who has dementia. You can't even make that up and sell it as a believable story.

I understand people who say give Trump another 4 years holding out hope. Being our other choice is even worse. I just hope these same people are at the same time making preparations for when things go bad in the next 10 years.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Supporting anyone, even the least worst candidate, is not necessarily the least worst option in a spiritual sense.

As I understand, Catholics are obligated to vote for the least worst candidate but they are not obligated to support them beyond that. No rallies. No donations. No getting into arguments defending them. No meme wars. No attacking their enemies. All of that stuff is spiritual bondage and nobody should undertake that bondage to a man who is clearly not walking with God and may in fact be in direct opposition to God.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Supporting anyone, even the least worst candidate, is not necessarily the least worst option in a spiritual sense.

As I understand, Catholics are obligated to vote for the least worst candidate but they are not obligated to support them beyond that. No rallies. No donations. No getting into arguments defending them. No meme wars. No attacking their enemies. All of that stuff is spiritual bondage and nobody should undertake that bondage to a man who is clearly not walking with God and may in fact be in direct opposition to God.
This is very well thought out and the best way to go forward. Trump appears to be less worse than Biden. Biden appears to be Trump with slightly higher taxes and probably more 2A restrictions.

But if people want to make fun of Trump or go to his rallies, I don't care either way. I am not attached to him at all. All I can do is get other men to think about what they will do after Trump, whether that is this November or in 2024.
 
Great posts the trump question usually leads to the left right question which is to me problematic because both sides have blaring problems. The problem is the automatic condemnation of anyone that points out those flaws as either a flaming commie socialist, or a trumptard deplorable,...instead of a rational person posing a rational argument.
 

Rob Banks

Kingfisher
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As I understand, Catholics are obligated to vote for the least worst candidate...
Is this true?

As a Catholic (or, in my case, an aspiring Catholic, as I have not been baptized yet), am I obligated to vote at all?

I have only voted once in my life, and it was for Trump in 2016. I was honestly planning to never vote again. It is not worth the time it takes to go to the polls (even if that time would otherwise be spent slacking off). Plus, by voting, you are tacitly supporting democracy.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I remember listening to Father Ripperger mention it during one of his lectures. It struck me as odd but his authority and insight in spiritual matters is about 1000 levels above mine so I'm happy to do whatever he says is spiritually orderly.

Perhaps the premise is similar to if someone gave you the opportunity to save one person, or two other people, or nobody at all. If you chose none at all then you would bear a spiritual burden for refusing to participate to the extent three lives were lost rather than two or one. As long as you undertake the process with spiritual detachment God will not hold you accountable for voting for someone 50% evil in order to prevent the election of someone 100% evil, but Father Ripperger certainly didn't give the impression that you ought to be enthusiastic about it.

The inference seemed to be that it was an unpleasant chore rather than any form of endorsement for the candidate. I suppose that's an understandable concept for a guy that performs exorcisms on people who were probably not saints to begin with.
 
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Rob Banks

Kingfisher
My response to that would be that even in the unlikely case that your vote makes a difference and helps the better candidate win, you have no way of knowing if it is actually helping your society.

If Hillary Clinton would have won, maybe that would have led to a system collapse or at least an increase in the people's will to resist democracy and tyranny. Maybe that would have been better. Who knows.

Additionally, 8 years of Clinton would have likely led to a Republican victory in 2024, whereas 8 years of Trump will likely lead to a Democratic victory in 2024.

Even if Trump had been everything we hoped for, he unfortunately would not have been able to pass the presidency down to his descendants upon his death. At best, all he could do would be to make changes to delay the decline by 8 years (changes which his successor would likely work to quickly reverse).

I wonder if Fr. Ripperger is himself a democracy supporter.

In any case, you're right about trusting good priests and spiritual superiors rather than your own judgment. Not doing so has gotten me in much trouble in the past.
 
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Rob Banks

Kingfisher
...8 years of Clinton would have likely led to a Republican victory in 2024...
OK, I just realized this probably isn't true since Hillary would have likely given amnesty snd voting rights to illegals, making it impossible for true conservatives to ever win another election.

But now it is just a matter of waiting until another Democrat (or liberal Republican) wins the White House. Then, voting rights will be given to illegals. So my point still stands.
 
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