Complaints of Donald Trump thread

infowarrior1

Hummingbird
Well sure, when a country is 100% high trust, high IQ, low time preference, K selection people, you can make it work for a little while. But then what happened?

When you have no central planning then you have huge risk/reward ratios. As the wealth accumulates at the top, these guys no longer want the risk so they cut the risk by selling the people out.

The robber baron capitalists sold out the American people and flooded them with foreign labor. The robber baron capitalists then feared they might actually lose on their "investments" so they sold out their country to a foreign hostile elite and put them in charge of the Federal Reserve. The robber baron capitalists then drug us into war after war for their own benefit. By the 1930's the robber baron capitalists were literally funding the Soviet Union and the genocide of millions, some say 30,000,000+ European Christians. Then they sent our boys off to die protecting these satanic monsters.

This will happen over and over when you allow the greediest of your society free rein over everyone else.

My point isn't that socialism is great. My point is it is all about the people in the system and the GOP's real stupid "socialism v. America" concept is just gaslighting their own base against their own needs.
If that's the case. Then it's best to test drive economic theories in test communities. Continue experimenting until you find what works best and implement that.


I suspect it would look similar to the economic system of biblical Israel. And as I have advocated before 7 year debt jubilees was one of the measures that prevented inequality from growing to much historically in Mesopotamia. And released commoners from slavery so that they can be yeomen that contributed to the State:


People say it's unrealistic. But I'd say nonsense.
 
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It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
If that's the case. Then it's best to test drive economic theories in test communities. Continue experimenting until you find what works best and implement that.


I suspect it would look similar to the economic system of biblical Israel. And as I have advocated before 7 year debt jubilees was one of the measures that prevented inequality from growing to much historically in Mesopotamia. And released commoners from slavery so that they can be yeomen that contributed to the State:


People say it's unrealistic. But I'd say nonsense.
I am certainly open to all ideas and economic philosophies, even capitalism if we can rectify the serious problems we face from our failed capitalist system. I like your thoughts here, great work.

My only concern is people on the right not gas lighting themselves and thinking our govt. has no obligation to the people. Their only obligation is the people and if they are going to destroy the opportunity to work and provide then they need to has answers for it.

Great post!
 

Neo

Pelican
Gold Member
This is my opinion from observing society, but so many men in the west have learned to latch their masculinity on to other men. Mostly in the form of sports. The older I get, the more sickening it is to see grown men going ape shit over an NFL football game. They really think it is a war, and they are involved, but at the same time their "involvement" is from the comfort of their couch. I would say well over 50% of men in the USA think this way, and it might be as high as 80%.

Men are not learning their own greatness, they are learning to worship the greatness of other men.
I've observed this as well and it makes it difficult to bond with 'normie' guys since their entire lives revolve around sports. It can become quite lonesome to be honest, but past HS I totally stopped caring about watching sports altogether. I do occasionally watch MMA cause I train in combat sports.

It's a spectator culture and it's rooted in fear. Many guys have been beaten down where they have no masculinity left. It's easy to get down with a society like we're in these days.

With that said actually participating in a sport or hobby pays huge rewards. I don't know where I'd be without doing martial arts.

I'll bring this full circle. We'd all be better if we actually did something no matter how small to stop the decline and make the US a better place, instead of writing a post being critical of what Trump didn't do on the on the forum.

If all the posts complaining were replaced with positive action to improve the nation, we'd be way better off. So instead of watching sports people here are watching politics.

I had dinner with a female friend who recently moved to the country and registered as a dem since you know they are the greatest for civil rights.

We got talking and I asked if she knew the history of that party. She didn't. So I gave her a history lesson. She was appalled. Will she change her affiliation? Maybe, but I'll keep working her. The truth is plain to see and eventually people will have their aha moments if you let them. I feel that conversation was very useful and if all of us started educating the ones who are amenable we'd be a force.
 

DanielH

Woodpecker
I've observed this as well and it makes it difficult to bond with 'normie' guys since their entire lives revolve around sports. It can become quite lonesome to be honest, but past HS I totally stopped caring about watching sports altogether. I do occasionally watch MMA cause I train in combat sports.

It's a spectator culture and it's rooted in fear. Many guys have been beaten down where they have no masculinity left. It's easy to get down with a society like we're in these days.

With that said actually participating in a sport or hobby pays huge rewards. I don't know where I'd be without doing martial arts.

I'll bring this full circle. We'd all be better if we actually did something no matter how small to stop the decline and make the US a better place, instead of writing a post being critical of what Trump didn't do on the on the forum.

If all the posts complaining were replaced with positive action to improve the nation, we'd be way better off. So instead of watching sports people here are watching politics.

I had dinner with a female friend who recently moved to the country and registered as a dem since you know they are the greatest for civil rights.

We got talking and I asked if she knew the history of that party. She didn't. So I gave her a history lesson. She was appalled. Will she change her affiliation? Maybe, but I'll keep working her. The truth is plain to see and eventually people will have their aha moments if you let them. I feel that conversation was very useful and if all of us started educating the ones who are amenable we'd be a force.
Definitely a positive post. It'll be an uphill battle for sure convincing people to understand the reality of the situation, considering the average American thinks that almost 1 in 10 Americans has died of covid.
 

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infowarrior1

Hummingbird
I am certainly open to all ideas and economic philosophies, even capitalism if we can rectify the serious problems we face from our failed capitalist system. I like your thoughts here, great work.

My only concern is people on the right not gas lighting themselves and thinking our govt. has no obligation to the people. Their only obligation is the people and if they are going to destroy the opportunity to work and provide then they need to has answers for it.


Great post!
The problem with modernity is the lack of Noblesse Oblige. Which is based on the fact that all believers stand before God. And are accountable for all they done on earth.

Nobles/King knowing the righteousness of God and fearing him would do their best to maintain Justice and enact righteous edicts.
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
The oath - which you’ve just directly quoted - says and means the exact opposite of what you said in your last post about this. You might want to read it a bit more carefully.
Which I just directly retyped, and made a transcription error due to my tiredness... It happens.

The various books explain their hatred of all nation states in detail, how the two arms overthrow or don't fight back, and I choose to trust the research of the Church over a random stranger on the internet who readily-admits He was that seriously-deep into Luciferianism.

Given how deep you apparently were, why am I the one pointing out all the repeated, obvious Scottish Rite signalling around Trump?
 
Ah yes, I am indeed a random stranger...who wrote a best-selling book on this exact topic after leaving Masonry and becoming Orthodox. I have seen all the degrees of the Scottish Rite, except the 33rd and I think the 19th (I was tired and slept in the car through that one). I have also read through “Morals And Dogma” in its entirety. Which of us is likely to have more information on what a particular degree teaches (regardless of whether that impacts the behavior of Masons)?

As to your second question, probably because I don’t care enough about Trump to watch his speeches or pay much attention to him anymore beyond what I read here or hear on Tucker Carlson’s YouTube clips. American politics is a clown show.
 
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Transsimian

Ostrich
Gold Member
I'm not sure whether to put this in the Trump or Trump complaints thread.

It's a hard-left but intelligent comedian who dislikes Trump saying that Trump is getting hate for all the wrong reasons.
 

LeoniusD

Woodpecker
One of the biggest legit complaints I would have against Trump is that he created the overpriced real estate courses called Trump University. Thousands - if not tens of thousands of people in the US and Canada were conned out of 2000$ to 34000$ for a course that teaches you less about real estate investing than a 15$ book called Real Estate investing for Dummies.

There are many overpriced hoaxes in the self-help sphere, but this is frankly one of the bigger cons out there. By that account a 5000$ pickup-seminar is good money for value, because seduction is to a certain degree art and takes personal touch. Real estate investing or sales is not something you need to learn from a seminar except for some basic concise value and that isn't very expensive normally.

CNN on it - when they did not have a boner against Trump since he wasn't president yet:


Here someone conned out of thousands in Canada:


I know that this was operational only for a short time and who knows - Trump may have thought that someone did an actual good program offering decent value for the money, but it's clear that it was created by a salesman and training guru huckster. You could create something semi-decent with the help of some university professors and the input of actual real estate investors, but then this thing should have cost 500$ to a maximum of 5000$ if they offered some outstanding input by pros. But even then - most of it would hardly surpass the knowledge of the 15$ book above, because there is no magic formula for any of it - just basic know-how which some successful investors actually put up on a few of their books - like 50 criteria for selection of a good rental property or other such info. None of that info was given at the 34000$ Trump courses.

Thus it was definitely more a hoax on the level of Ty Lopez and others.

But at least Trump settled the case paying out 25 mio. $ or even more, so the people got their money back. I know that billions of dollars are changing hand in the industry and no one is paying back anything, since the main concern is that they are overpriced. And frankly - at least tens of millons are spent on similar courses each year anyway done by different fraudsters and no one is being able to run successful lawsuits against them.
 
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jordypip23

Ostrich
Gold Member
One of the biggest legit complaints I would have against Trump is that he created the overpriced real estate courses called Trump University. Thousands - if not tens of thousands of people in the US and Canada were conned out of 2000$ to 34000$ for a course that teaches you less about real estate investing than a 15$ book called Real Estate investing for Dummies.

There are many overpriced hoaxes in the self-help sphere, but this is frankly one of the bigger cons out there. By that account a 5000$ pickup-seminar is good money for value, because seduction is to a certain degree art and takes personal touch. Real estate investing or sales is not something you need to learn from a seminar except for some basic concise value and that isn't very expensive normally.

CNN on it - when they did not have a boner against Trump since he wasn't president yet:


Here someone conned out of thousands in Canada:


I know that this was operational only for a short time and who knows - Trump may have thought that someone did an actual good program offering decent value for the money, but it's clear that it was created by a salesman and training guru huckster. You could create something semi-decent with the help of some university professors and the input of actual real estate investors, but then this thing should have cost 500$ to a maximum of 5000$ if they offered some outstanding input by pros. But even then - most of it would hardly surpass the knowledge of the 15$ book above, because there is no magic formula for any of it - just basic know-how which some successful investors actually put up on a few of their books - like 50 criteria for selection of a good rental property or other such info. None of that info was given at the 34000$ Trump courses.

Thus it was definitely more a hoax on the level of Ty Lopez and others.

But at least Trump settled the case paying out 25 mio. $ or even more, so the people got their money back. I know that billions of dollars are changing hand in the industry and no one is paying back anything, since the main concern is that they are overpriced. And frankly - at least tens of millons are spent on similar courses each year anyway done by different fraudsters and no one is being able to run successful lawsuits against them.
All of these failed. Not the greatest track record in business. Yet somehow he'll always get massive bailouts in life & in business. Guy promised the world and has only delivered on a fraction of things & has been tripping badly this year in the face of real adversity. As stated before, he basically has various forms of slick neocons & traitors by his side as well. It's a tough position for any (law-abiding, proud, non-Marxist) American to be in right now given the choices on the ballot this fall. The whole system is obviously broken.



 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
The GOP helped ensure Kris Kobach, staunch immigration reformist, was defeated last night in the Kansas primary for US Senate. Marshall, the GOP candidate who beat him out, got the majority of GOP funding and is a typical "conservative" candidate.

Another loss for the America First crowd.
 

I had a gut feeling about this. He should've put more effort into reaching out to hispanics and explaining how the media lied to create the "all mexicans are rapists" hoax. Maybe even offered some kind of olive branch to show while he was tough on immigration he respected hispanics (beyond a photo of a taco bowl or goya beans) just so hispanics could save face from the humiliation they felt. But of course his idiot son-in-law thought it more likely he could flip a lot of black voters instead.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird

I had a gut feeling about this. He should've put more effort into reaching out to hispanics and explaining how the media lied to create the "all mexicans are rapists" hoax. Maybe even offered some kind of olive branch to show while he was tough on immigration he respected hispanics (beyond a photo of a taco bowl or goya beans) just so hispanics could save face from the humiliation they felt. But of course his idiot son-in-law thought it more likely he could flip a lot of black voters instead.
Watching Trump's failed presidency it is not surprise that the failed so big in business and yet was still bailed out by "investors" at just the right time so that he could be put back up on his perch.
 
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