Complaints of Donald Trump thread

New political ad from the Lincoln Project (don't know much else than they claim to be Republican are are anti-Trump). I'm no fan of Jared and they target him with the ad.

'This pampered princeling has never met a problem he couldn't f*** up'

Best line in a political ad ever?


I didn't follow much on the guy before he effectively became the Cheney to Trump's Bush. Watching his comments on how he "read 18 books" or something to that effect as preparation for his DOA Isreal/Palestine peace treaty started my realization of what a lightweight the guy is.
 
New political ad from the Lincoln Project (don't know much else than they claim to be Republican are are anti-Trump). I'm no fan of Jared and they target him with the ad.

'This pampered princeling has never met a problem he couldn't f*** up'

Best line in a political ad ever?


I didn't follow much on the guy before he effectively became the Cheney to Trump's Bush. Watching his comments on how he "read 18 books" or something to that effect as preparation for his DOA Isreal/Palestine peace treaty started my realization of what a lightweight the guy is.
Read up on his family then. The fact Trump let his daughter marry into that family, much less ever let Kushner near the White House tells you all you need to know about how full of shit Donald is.
 
New political ad from the Lincoln Project (don't know much else than they claim to be Republican are are anti-Trump). I'm no fan of Jared and they target him with the ad.

'This pampered princeling has never met a problem he couldn't f*** up'

Best line in a political ad ever?


I didn't follow much on the guy before he effectively became the Cheney to Trump's Bush. Watching his comments on how he "read 18 books" or something to that effect as preparation for his DOA Isreal/Palestine peace treaty started my realization of what a lightweight the guy is.
Turns out one of the co-founders of the Lincoln project is George Conway; emasculated cuck husband to senior Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway.

No idea what their relationship is like, probably a paper marriage at this point (I suspect Trump has banged Kellyanne given how much he publicly shits on George) but makes you wonder if Kellyanne has been talking shit about Kushner behind the scenes. She has been with the Trump team since around summer 2016 I think and I'm sure she has seen one Kushner fuck up after another; all the while Trump keeps going back to the Fountain of Stupid everytime for another drink.

I suspect also Bannon left 9-10 months into Trump's term as White House Chief Strategist (which is crazy early given how he contributed to one of the biggest upsets in modern political history) once he realized that Kushner had way too much power and influence and there was no point wasting time in an administration where a lightweight idiot non-MAGA in-law family member could pull rank constantly over experienced, proven, and loyal guys.

So ANYTHING that paints Kushner in a negative light is fine by me and the fact that Trump hasn't dump him yet speaks volumes; alleged Isreal protection or not.. I don't even take Trump seriously anymore with Kushner in the White House. Imagine if Obama had a literal Ku Klux Klan guy as his son in-law top senior advisor who basically outranked everyone else on everything; that's how fucked up this whole situation is.

Every Trump rally should have people screaming: "FIRE JARED!"
 
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Read up on his family then. The fact Trump let his daughter marry into that family, much less ever let Kushner near the White House tells you all you need to know about how full of shit Donald is.
Yeah, between the forum, his attitude, and a quick search on him I realized quick he's definitely in "giant douche/turd sandwich" territory. He'd probably be doing some hard time if an effective judicial system existed. His continued influence is one of my main criticisms I try to impress during political conversations with like-minded friends/family. I'm often surprised to see many of them actually still have a positive impression of him. It worries me a bit more folks can't identify blatant cronyism much less the corruption below the surface.

Turns out one of the co-founders of the Lincoln project is George Conway; emasculated cuck husband to senior Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway.

No idea what their relationship is like, probably a paper marriage at this point (I suspect Trump has banged Kellyanne given how much he publicly shits on George) but makes you wonder if Kellyanne has been talking shit about Kushner behind the scenes. She has been with the Trump team since around summer 2016 I think and I'm sure she has seen one Kushner fuck up after another.

ANYTHING that paints Kushner in a negative light is fine by me.
While I found the ad a bit funny for giving Jared both barrels publicly, this speaks to a little more about the GOP in general. Back in the day (when I started voting) Bush had the "dynasty" vibe going on. It didn't hold any cache with me but it at least provided some continuity and reinforced the conservative image.

Now that we see the GOP is no savior and even has subversive influences inside of it these fractures are out in the open. It all comes across as less classy than the trailer park family tree in Idiocracy if that were somehow possible.
 
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Yeah, between the forum, his attitude, and a quick search on him I realized quick he's definitely in "giant douche/turd sandwich" territory. He'd probably be doing some hard time if an effective judicial system existed. His continued influence is one of my main criticisms I try to impress during political conversations with like-minded friends/family. I'm often surprised to see many of them actually still have a positive impression of him. It worries me a bit more folks can't identify blatant cronyism much less the corruption below the surface.
The more you dig the worst it gets with Kushner. Read up on his dad, who spent years in prison for fraud. And his uncle. And how they were Hillary Clinton's biggest donors when she was a NY Senator.
 

perros

Woodpecker
Well sure, when a country is 100% high trust, high IQ, low time preference, K selection people, you can make it work for a little while. But then what happened?

When you have no central planning then you have huge risk/reward ratios. As the wealth accumulates at the top, these guys no longer want the risk so they cut the risk by selling the people out.

The robber baron capitalists sold out the American people and flooded them with foreign labor. The robber baron capitalists then feared they might actually lose on their "investments" so they sold out their country to a foreign hostile elite and put them in charge of the Federal Reserve. The robber baron capitalists then drug us into war after war for their own benefit. By the 1930's the robber baron capitalists were literally funding the Soviet Union and the genocide of millions, some say 30,000,000+ European Christians. Then they sent our boys off to die protecting these satanic monsters.

This will happen over and over when you allow the greediest of your society free rein over everyone else.

My point isn't that socialism is great. My point is it is all about the people in the system and the GOP's real stupid "socialism v. America" concept is just gaslighting their own base against their own needs.

Not sure how back many pages this is,

but the problem is that American elites have always been addicted to slavery/cheap labor. There's a lot of people talking about minorities and immigrants, and why we let all these people in, well it was because of the American capitalist system that allowed all these groups to come in and greedy elites who only cared about profits.

American elites didn't want to pay white people a living wage so they brought in droves of African slaves to work for free and make huge profits. After 300 years the slaves said "fuck this we are not going to be slaves anymore, we want our rights" and fought a whole damn war over it. As a direct result we now have African Americans as a minority. After slavery many African Americans were still being paid less than whites because they were willing to work for less based on their newfound freedom being butlers, housekeepers, waiters, busboys, gardening, cooks, sharecroppers, etc... pretty much what the Mexicans do now.

Fast-forward to 1960s and Blacks get equal rights and equal wages and the elites went back to the drawing board and implemented the 1965 immigration act which allowed Mexicans and other Latinos to come in to work for 50 cents an hour instead of for free. The knew that they can't have slaves anymore so now they were going to bring in Latinos from the neighboring country (Mexico) to work for 50 cents, thus hurting American workers. The Mexicans now are doing the same exact work Blacks used to do back in the day (waiters, housekeepers, construction, lawn maintenance, picking strawberries, etc... ). As a direct result we now have Latinos as a big minority and growing.

I would argue that it was Capitalism, not socialism, that has allowed this to occur. Because if it wasn't for the robber baron elites there wouldn't have been that drastic of a demographic shift.
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
If Trump doesn't win re-election in November, I guarantee he'll pardon Kushner and Ivanka before he leaves office. However a president can only pardon for federal crimes. He can still be convicted of state crimes so maybe DC or NY (where he used to live) will go after him.
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
After 300 years the slaves said "fuck this we are not going to be slaves anymore, we want our rights" and fought a whole damn war over it. As a direct result we now have African Americans as a minority.
That's not what happened. The Civil War started years before the Emancipation Proclamation and blacks had nothing to do with starting the war. They weren't even a part of the war for a long period, as Lincoln opposed allowing them to be a part of the Union Army, though both he and the Confederacy later relented on that point as they grew desperate for manpower. If you really want to see a racist, read what Lincoln said about blacks.

There was no mass movement of slaves of wanting their "rights." Slaves did run away or revolt here and there, but the vast majority of them just quietly and happily did their jobs, and they were not kept in cages or chained up, but instead freely worked the fields as farm hands, cared for their master's home and children, and the vast majority of them not only didn't want their freedom--they didn't understand that they were not free. Are you familiar with the concept of "freedom to" versus "freedom from"?

Unrestrained freedom can be more harmful than "liberating." Is it good that women are "free" to fornicate with as many men from as many different backgrounds and races as they care to, to be defecated on by Arabic sheiks for money, to cam whore in return for digital chings, to disobey the wishes of their fathers and be in open rebellion from God? Is it good that men have been free to have unrestrained sex with women without any commitment or relationship? Is this freedom helping you or harming you? Do you understand the importance of societal rules, beyond just the libertarian de minimus to prevent anarchy?

Slavery is a concept that existed for most of human history. And it is no longer in practice in most of the world today. It's gone and is not coming back, nor should it. But at the same time, it wasn't day after day of whippings and rapings. This is the fantasy created by modern historians to guilt trip us for the "crimes" of our ancestors.

Even after slaves were freed, many of them weren't on board with emancipation.
There are records of former slaves interviewed in the 1900s before they died. Keep in mind these slave interview projects were done by people wanting to shame and blame whites for slavery. What did the slaves say? Sure, a few of them repoted cruelty. But for the most part they just relayed happy memories of how good the food was, and even how much they loved the (white) family they lived with. Here is one excerpt:

Freedom is all right, but de niggers was better off befo' surrender, kaze den dey was looked after an' dey didn' get in no trouble fightin' an' killin' like dey do dese days. If a nigger cut up an' got sassy in slavery times, his Ole Marse give him a good whippin' an' he went way back an' set down an' 'haved hese'f. If he was sick, Marse an' Mistis looked after him, an' if he needed store medicine, it was bought an' give to him; he didn' have to pay nothin'. Dey didn' even have to think 'bout clothes nor nothin' like dat, dey was wove an' made an' give to dem. Maybe everybody's Marse and Mistis wuzn' good as Marse George and Mis' Betsy, but dey was de same as a mammy an' pappy to us niggers."
Source: American Slave: North Carolina Narratives14 (1): 284-290.
(You will note that the infamous "n word" is not a perjorative at all, but was simply how black people referred to each other, and comes from the root word of Negro, or black). Slavery is not a good system, and yes, it's morality is questionable. But let me posit a difficult question: If the way blacks are living today is inferior to how they lived under slavery, what do you do about that?

Because a strong argument can be made that that's the case.
 
Not sure how back many pages this is,

but the problem is that American elites have always been addicted to slavery/cheap labor. There's a lot of people talking about minorities and immigrants, and why we let all these people in, well it was because of the American capitalist system that allowed all these groups to come in and greedy elites who only cared about profits.

American elites didn't want to pay white people a living wage so they brought in droves of African slaves to work for free and make huge profits. After 300 years the slaves said "fuck this we are not going to be slaves anymore, we want our rights" and fought a whole damn war over it. As a direct result we now have African Americans as a minority. After slavery many African Americans were still being paid less than whites because they were willing to work for less based on their newfound freedom being butlers, housekeepers, waiters, busboys, gardening, cooks, sharecroppers, etc... pretty much what the Mexicans do now.

Fast-forward to 1960s and Blacks get equal rights and equal wages and the elites went back to the drawing board and implemented the 1965 immigration act which allowed Mexicans and other Latinos to come in to work for 50 cents an hour instead of for free. The knew that they can't have slaves anymore so now they were going to bring in Latinos from the neighboring country (Mexico) to work for 50 cents, thus hurting American workers. The Mexicans now are doing the same exact work Blacks used to do back in the day (waiters, housekeepers, construction, lawn maintenance, picking strawberries, etc... ). As a direct result we now have Latinos as a big minority and growing.

I would argue that it was Capitalism, not socialism, that has allowed this to occur. Because if it wasn't for the robber baron elites there wouldn't have been that drastic of a demographic shift.
I agree, and that is why I have become a "socialist" as I grow older and wiser. I don't agree with paying free loaders to sit at home and pop out kids, but that is a capitalist system who wants the slave labor and the crime for the prison industrial system.

You can't have capitalism and closed borders. Eventually the wealthy capitalists will pay to open the borders, just like they did in the USA. You can't have socialism and open borders, the system will crash too fast. Go socialist and force the elites to either close the borders to pay for it or crash the system.

In the USA the men are doing nothing while their country collapses. In France at least the men are out fighting with police and trying to do something. Why is that? France is a socialist country and the people there actually hold their government accountable for not performing up to their expectations. In the USA everyone just shrugs it off and pretends they are rich by maxing out their credit on a McMansion, a new car and a new boat.
 

perros

Woodpecker
That's not what happened. The Civil War started years before the Emancipation Proclamation and blacks had nothing to do with starting the war.
I don't disagree with anything you posted. Obviously there were a lot of factors that led to the civil war, and slaves were pretty much powerless to do anything. The point of my post was to keep it short and sweet and that slavery was abolished after the civil war therefore the elites had to think of ways to bring other groups to do their work.
 

godfather dust

Ostrich
Gold Member
I agree, and that is why I have become a "socialist" as I grow older and wiser. I don't agree with paying free loaders to sit at home and pop out kids, but that is a capitalist system who wants the slave labor and the crime for the prison industrial system.

You can't have capitalism and closed borders. Eventually the wealthy capitalists will pay to open the borders, just like they did in the USA. You can't have socialism and open borders, the system will crash too fast. Go socialist and force the elites to either close the borders to pay for it or crash the system.

In the USA the men are doing nothing while their country collapses. In France at least the men are out fighting with police and trying to do something. Why is that? France is a socialist country and the people there actually hold their government accountable for not performing up to their expectations. In the USA everyone just shrugs it off and pretends they are rich by maxing out their credit on a McMansion, a new car and a new boat.
Ultimately free market capitalism, in which the system exists to support the market (and not the people,) will likely always result in what we see in the west
 
Ultimately free market capitalism, in which the system exists to support the market (and not the people,) will likely always result in what we see in the west
Yes, and this was predicted 80 years ago when Wall Street bankers/US citizens and US tax dollars literally built, backed, funded and bailed out a Satanic regime that murdered millions upon millions of European Christians.

Now the chickens have come home to roost. The middle class in the USA can no longer hide from the ill effects of capitalism. I am as guilty as anyone else who supported capitalism until a few years ago. I bought into the GOP talking points. But I have seen the light. Capitalism is evil, very evil, and it seeks to crush anyone and their children who isn't in their elite club of billionaires.
 
Read up on his family then. The fact Trump let his daughter marry into that family, much less ever let Kushner near the White House tells you all you need to know about how full of shit Donald is.
It's is hard to imagine that ANYONE can still support this buffoon president with that furl-browed, looming figure, Kushner, high atop trump.

It's a huge slap in the face to the American public who voted for him. BE GONE!
 

rainy

Woodpecker
It's is hard to imagine that ANYONE can still support this buffoon president with that furl-browed, looming figure, Kushner, high atop trump.

It's a huge slap in the face to the American public who voted for him. BE GONE!
Actually it's very easy to imagine many supporting him, despite his issues, given the radical communist alternative.
 
We are witnessing what Evola would have described as the transition from a merchant-dominated to a peasant-dominated society. They are the lowest rungs on the ladder, and you can tell which caste is dominant based on which one’s values the rest of society is geared toward promoting. In our case, the merchants gave what they wanted to be temporary power to the peasant, in order to destroy the two rungs above the merchants (warriors and spiritual authorities), but it seems the golem is off the leash. Trump himself represents the merchant-class, which is why we will never have a meaningful society with men like him in charge. Still better than the alternative, but that isn’t saying much. Our society is utterly bereft of the top two castes, especially in leadership positions; none of them can govern from a higher place than they, themselves, inhabit.
 
We are witnessing what Evola would have described as the transition from a merchant-dominated to a peasant-dominated society. They are the lowest rungs on the ladder, and you can tell which caste is dominant based on which one’s values the rest of society is geared toward promoting. In our case, the merchants gave what they wanted to be temporary power to the peasant, in order to destroy the two rungs above the merchants (warriors and spiritual authorities), but it seems the golem is off the leash. Trump himself represents the merchant-class, which is why we will never have a meaningful society with men like him in charge. Still better than the alternative, but that isn’t saying much. Our society is utterly bereft of the top two castes, especially in leadership positions; none of them can govern from a higher place than they, themselves, inhabit.
Excellent post. This is why I highly recommend all Trump supporters to get into the Alt-Right podcasts and expand and grow. This is the type of information they will talk about in detail.

Right now I am listening to a podcast and they are doing a deep dive into Stephen Miller, Trump's cabinet member who is supposed to be so tough on immigration. Pretty interesting, yet not good news for Trump fans. He is another fraud and his background proves it as well.
 
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