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<blockquote data-quote="Mojambo" data-source="post: 1519616" data-attributes="member: 11076">That actually is why I created this thread.&nbsp; The goal isn&#039;t so much to present data and logic to change that person&#039;s mind, it is to employ a similar tactic and trap them back, having them explain their bad analogy with their insane logic.&nbsp; It can subtly demonstrate to the person or bystanders of the discussion how stupid analogies are as replacements for facts and data to push dumb policy or social norms.As juvenile as it is, I think those of us that have been trying with data and actual logic for too long simply fail to speak the language that persuades the cult.If anything, this helps slow the propagation of these mantras, reducing the effect of the cult.The goal is to trigger cognitive dissonance quickly so that the flock doesn&#039;t have the confidence to spread the analogy. The response should have an effect of making the original analogy sound like a ridiculous thing to say so people would stop saying it, because the obvious refutation is much more effective and convincing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mojambo, post: 1519616, member: 11076"] That actually is why I created this thread. The goal isn't so much to present data and logic to change that person's mind, it is to employ a similar tactic and trap them back, having them explain their bad analogy with their insane logic. It can subtly demonstrate to the person or bystanders of the discussion how stupid analogies are as replacements for facts and data to push dumb policy or social norms. As juvenile as it is, I think those of us that have been trying with data and actual logic for too long simply fail to speak the language that persuades the cult. If anything, this helps slow the propagation of these mantras, reducing the effect of the cult. The goal is to trigger cognitive dissonance quickly so that the flock doesn't have the confidence to spread the analogy. The response should have an effect of making the original analogy [I]sound[/I] like a ridiculous thing to say so people would stop saying it, because the obvious refutation is much more effective and convincing. [/QUOTE]

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