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<blockquote data-quote="Simeon_Strangelight" data-source="post: 1116781" data-attributes="member: 6783">So let me see it from the SJW - lense: Heterosexual tendency is fluid and can be hetero, bi or gay at any stage in life. Homosexual tendency is 100% determined by genes despite the facts:+ prison culture creates gay experiences, + Muslim culture due to gender separation and + homosexuals being almost 50% sexually molested in childhood - + there have been countless gays who actually became hetero again even losing the lust for menWhy would conversion therapy work? It would work for the same reason why unplugging yourself from porn abuse, from sexual aberrations like extreme porn, pedophilia, zoophilia - works. If you can become &quot;perverted&quot; in your sexuality through childhood abuse or simple degenaration, then you can also become &quot;vanilla&quot; again since the default mode of our species has to be heterosexual. Now that said - there is a 30-50% subset of gay men who certainly were never abused and simply prefer to be gay. Those are in my opinion less than 1% of the population - maybe even 0,5%. There are cultures in the Amazon where there are zero gays, but those tribes have daily sex and the couples get married early on at puberty. There is not even a word for gay sex, because no one has time and energy for it. Currently we won't find any honest discussion about the reasons of homosexuality. I would not criminalize or even ostracize homosexuality, but outright banning gay therapy is nuts. I read once a good site created by a psychologists and not a bible-thumping fanatic. It had plenty of good points in it. While I don't think that there is something inherently wrong with being gay, if a gay man wants to try and be hetero, then he should be given the help to become so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simeon_Strangelight, post: 1116781, member: 6783"] So let me see it from the SJW - lense: Heterosexual tendency is fluid and can be hetero, bi or gay at any stage in life. Homosexual tendency is 100% determined by genes despite the facts: + prison culture creates gay experiences, + Muslim culture due to gender separation and + homosexuals being almost 50% sexually molested in childhood - + there have been countless gays who actually became hetero again even losing the lust for men Why would conversion therapy work? It would work for the same reason why unplugging yourself from porn abuse, from sexual aberrations like extreme porn, pedophilia, zoophilia - works. If you can become "perverted" in your sexuality through childhood abuse or simple degenaration, then you can also become "vanilla" again since the default mode of our species has to be heterosexual. Now that said - there is a 30-50% subset of gay men who certainly were never abused and simply prefer to be gay. Those are in my opinion less than 1% of the population - maybe even 0,5%. There are cultures in the Amazon where there are zero gays, but those tribes have daily sex and the couples get married early on at puberty. There is not even a word for gay sex, because no one has time and energy for it. Currently we won't find any honest discussion about the reasons of homosexuality. I would not criminalize or even ostracize homosexuality, but outright banning gay therapy is nuts. I read once a good site created by a psychologists and not a bible-thumping fanatic. It had plenty of good points in it. While I don't think that there is something inherently wrong with being gay, if a gay man wants to try and be hetero, then he should be given the help to become so. [/QUOTE]

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