Conspiracy theorists--what made you start believing?

DanielH

Woodpecker
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Beaker

Robin
Exactly. Man can break His rules. Man can crucify his Creator. But there are consequences.

Same with the global conspiracy. They have the free will to conspire and manipulate and rule others through lies.
But they will pay the price in this life or the next.

But the results are in line, God allows evil to teach us, and without it there can be no good. The exact opposite is Islam, a religion that imposes a static order under pure will, with no reason, subjugating all with brute force. This isn't what Christianity is about - which is about Logos - reason over will. It comes with ups and downs, corruption, even horror because of the freedom, but it results in innovation, we learn, and this gives us the rule and the dominance to preserve Logos. Without this technogical innovation we would all be conquered by Muslims, who worship brute strength of will and have built a culture around it.

The sucess of the Western world owes everything to Christ and the logical perfection of the Trinity, which states that man is created in God's image and is capable of reason.

If these conspiracy theories are driving you away from faith (which without there can be be no reason) then they are detrimental to you. It becomes about vengeance and hate.
 

NickK

Sparrow
But the results are in line, God allows evil to teach us, and without it there can be no good. The exact opposite is Islam, a religion that imposes a static order under pure will, with no reason, subjugating all with brute force. This isn't what Christianity is about - which is about Logos - reason over will. It comes with ups and downs, corruption, even horror because of the freedom, but it results in innovation, we learn, and this gives us the rule and the dominance to preserve Logos. Without this technogical innovation we would all be conquered by Muslims, who worship brute strength of will and have built a culture around it.

The sucess of the Western world owes everything to Christ and the logical perfection of the Trinity, which states that man is created in God's image and is capable of reason.

If these conspiracy theories are driving you away from faith (which without there can be be no reason) then they are detrimental to you. It becomes about vengeance and hate.
There is an overstatment of reason in the West. The word Logos is misinterpretted in the West as reason or logic. Logos is a person (THE person, Jesus Christ), not an idea. Logic is just one of many fuculties of the soul and not the most important one. The West has rested it's survival souly on reason (and the resulting so-called "scientific progress") and that's why it is slowly being supplanted by people with more faith. Even people with the wrong faith are better than "reasonable" people.

The technological advantage amounts to nothing, since it always results in abandonment of God and moral degeneracy. This is the Legacy of Cain. His people produced metallurgy, city walls, textiles, music, agriculture. All tought by demons.
 

Beaker

Robin
There is an overstatment of reason in the West. The word Logos is misinterpretted in the West as reason or logic. Logos is a person (THE person, Jesus Christ), not an idea. Logic is just one of many fuculties of the soul and not the most important one. The West has rested it's survival souly on reason (and the resulting so-called "scientific progress") and that's why it is slowly being supplanted by people with more faith. Even people with the wrong faith are better than "reasonable" people.

The technological advantage amounts to nothing, since it always results in abandonment of God and moral degeneracy. This is the Legacy of Cain. His people produced metallurgy, city walls, textiles, music, agriculture. All tought by demons.

You are arguing in line with Islam, that rejects reason in favour of will.
 

Salocin

Robin
Cable access in the 90s was the best show around! As a rebellious teenager the conspiracy theory shows were a major draw. Here's a documentary that I remember watching back in the day...
 
Disappearing videos sealed the deal for me earlier in the year.

Around the time of the impeachment, a twitter account had a clip of the first two minutes of what I presume is half hour or so interview with Paul Pelosi (Nancy Pelosi's son). At that time the accusations of corruption in other countries were flying back and forth in the U.S.A between both sides of our joke of a political party system. Anyways, there was this obscure video that I thought would be pretty damning if it were ever to get more attention.

After A LOT of searching months later, I found a copy that some YT user kept...


Even back in January the UATV youtube channel had this video hidden and set to 'private'. It almost seemed fake at first, but apparently its real- its a just weird anglophile journalism organization out of Ukraine. Now the twitter profile with the video has long since disappeared too.

Without straying too far from OP question; Pelosi's son is involved in various investment scams, and he seems to do it all over the world.. Thats a topic for another day.



A more well known incident was back in April when Chris Cuomo was caught riding a bike outdoors after a positive covid test and obligatory quarantine. Most publications write about him victoriously walking out of his basement after two weeks. A few braver ones will reference the confrontation that Cuomo had with a biker. They wouldn't have to do that if they just had the actual video on the page. But they never do. I definitely seen it, but I cannot for the life of me find it now. Maybe the next poster can retrieve it and post it.

Someone is definitely scouring the internet and purging this stuff. I'm surprised the right takes it in stride so well that phrases like "use the link I drop before they take it down" are so common.

Its getting beyond censorship. Its gaslighting.

There will come a day where if ever you find some solid reputable media that makes the wrong people look bad, it will be gone almost instantaneously. And you will be charged with being a liar. "Yeah, where's your evidence?". Well, you won't have any at that point. Technically you will indeed be a conspiracy theorist.

For emphasis, these are not just videos of political figures flip-flopping on a campaign issue throughout the years or something. Its privileged figures in the act of doing things that would land any normal person jail time.
 

Zagor

Robin
What made me start believing? Thinking. When the so called conspiracy theory is the most logical explanation of the events taking place. Case in point. - covid pandemic.
 

Moolooman

Sparrow
Hi boys, I’m new here, but have been ghost reading these pages for pretty much 4 years, since ROK days, so know most of you and your MO. I like the way the page is going btw. Well done Roosh.

On conspiracy theories, they’re only rantings of madmen until proven true. For example MK Ultra.

I’m not totally convinced there is a global agenda in play right now, in saying that a lot of countries have used this Fauxdemic to bolster their security laws and control over their citizens. But I think this is an ad hoc opportunist reaction. For example, we in Australia have this place called Victoria. The Victorian Govt are left wing idiots, and I’m not saying this because I disagree with their politics, no, they actually are idiots. The Aussie term ‘couldn’t organise a root in a brothel’ comes to mind. The Premier Daniel Andrews is a weapons grade moron who has destroyed Melbourne.

The point is a lot of conspiracies are just the work of complete disorganisation and little regard to long term outcomes. Like NCov.

Aloha!
 
The funny thing is that this Marrs guy said it would be in full swing by the year 2000.

This just goes to show that evil makes all kinds of declarations and prophecies of their own but none of them come to fruition especially by their proclamation date, they have to deceive everyone and sow dissent in order to bring about the closest reality to their predictions. Hence why U.N. Agenda 2021 expanded into 2030, and I hear talks of a 2050 now. God laughs at their plans, but yes the presence of evil will drive people back to Him, so in a way it is almost necessary to wake up people who have long been bereft of standing in His presence. I wish it was not so, but the nature of our temporal existence is that of a test, and purely a test.
 

nathan

Sparrow
To answer the OP, honestly I have pretty much been open to conspiracy theories since I was like 5 years old and realized that the adults who spoke with such confidence also got so many things wrong and that I shouldn't really take what they say at face value, whether they got things wrong out of malice or just ignorance.

I don't think I am much of a "conspiracy theorist", but the fact of the matter is that the accepted narrative on just about everything is essentially just a common middle ground story that all influential sides negotiate (not explicitly) until it becomes widely accepted. And since there can only be one truth, and the official narrative is a most often a mixture of several narratives that have been negotiated, it follows that the official narrative is almost always not the actual truth.

And that's in the most innocent cases. In the worst cases, the accepted narrative really is a true conspiracy in that it was known to be false by the perpetrators and was still shared for a deliberate practical purpose.
 
I always kept an open mind about many things in this life. Everything our eyes see is an illusion, hence walk by faith not by sight.

1) Passenger commercial jets being blown out of the sky "accidentally": Yeah sure, "Accidentally". Passenger jets "squak" a particular code which can be picked up by military and other civilian equipment and yet you're telling me you thought it was an enemy aircraft when you blew it out of the sky? Right. To me, the cargo on these planes and/or the people they are carrying are compromised and need to be taken of because they clash with the agenda. From the Iranian flight, the Korean Jet, Malaysia Airlines and even the recent Iranian downing of the Ukrainian jet, these are NOT coincidences in my eyes, only an idiot would think otherwise.

2) ISIS: Yes they are how true Islam is meant to be practised, anyone who say other wise has not read the Quran or Hadiths in detail. If Muhammad was alive and had the military might today to what he had when in Medina coming back to Mecca, it would be identical to ISIS. Religion of peace? Spare me the humor. It's funny how ISIS constantly pedals death to the Jews yet hasn't had the balls to attack Israel internally or externally, yet they can get away with carrying sleeper cell attacks in the U.S, Germany, France, U.K and Canada. Why hasn't the U.A.E, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and Kuwait been touched by ISIS? Are they on the payroll of these countries? I think so. If you have the balls to attack the U.S you can do it to anyone, simple. I know they were well funded by Obama and the gang, everyone who has a noggin knows and still they bite the hand that feeds them.

3) Aliens: I know this is far fetched, but hear me out. Our God, the One True God, creator of all that we know of, have known, will know and will never know, created this vast universe. He has created many beautiful things which are extremely complex and has given us means in identifying them and studying them as we go through the decades. However, to say He hasn't created other forms of life is absurd to me. You have Angels, You have us Humans, You have animals, Planets and who else knows what more! If you truly believe God is All Knowing, Seeing, Hearing and is the true God, then nothing and no one can exist without his permission, whether it be good or "bad", to state otherwise demeans God and makes it clear that God is not God at that point.

4) September 11th: Self explanatory really. When you put the pieces together it makes no sense. Saudis hit us yet we go to Afghanistan and Iraq? Okay then . . . Who supports and funds the Wahhabi ideology of Islam? Saudi Arabia. . . Just wait until oil is done and dusted, these Arabian nations are going to either A) Lick our boots, B) Fall slave to China or C) Spread Islamic terrorism to inhabit more developed nations for their resources. Don't believe me? Well check out Europe at this point in time. From the Ummayads, to the Abassids to the Ottomans, Muslims and Islam have always had a hard on to conqueror Europe.

5) Canadian government: Push to becoming a socialist shithole. Taxation is up the butt here. Income tax, then a 13% GST on most goods even if you are buying used. 50% capital gain tax and the damn list goes on and on. Pulling out cash from cheques for our "pensions". Running massive deficits and increasing immigration with Canadians themselves basically struggling day to day. Terrible housing market and poor use of resources. Look at our oil sands, they're a mess. Some aboriginal throws logs on a train track and police do nothing. Protesters fighting against masks and lockdowns get their asses beat. Yeah makes sense. Our government is a joke, we have a drama teacher/groper/ski instructor as a PM a left journalist with a major in history as our Finance Minister and a interior designer as out health minister. Top that, I dare you to.

6) Global Warming: Spare me the words. The earth goes through natural cycles and always has. This paris accord bullshit is ridiculous. Look at India, China, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and most countries in Africa, do you think they give a crap? They have the most environmental laws on the planet I'd like to see Greta Thund-whatever the hell her name is go preach there with her snarky remarks. mUh eLeCtRiC cArs. How do you do you get the material for their batteries? Uh. . . We have to mine for them. What do mining equipment use? It ain't wind power or solar. . . it's petroleum. Let's not talk about the manufacturing process and let's not talk about what has to be done once these batteries must be discarded.

7) Media: Social media, to the news outlets are all controlled to make you think and act in a certain way. They all have the same agenda, cover the same thing and get the exact same points across to what gels with their perspective.

All of this and more have changed the way I see the world and that conspiracy theories are more than theories. There's truth to everything in this life whether we can digest it or not is on us.
 
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