Coronavirus Economic, Cultural, Political Ramifications

AManLikePutin

Kingfisher
Roosh said:
This thread is not for political discussion. Post in the Coronavirus lounge thread or start a Coronavirus political ramifications thread.
Great thread idea.

This is such a huge moment for the world, somethings will never be the same after and we'll see many changes in the short and long term in all aspects of life.

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Some ramifications that immediately came to my mind:

- Babyboom NYE 2021?
- Increased divorce rate as a result of quarantine?
- Normalization of WFH in many companies
- Stronger push for UBI
- Speeding of automation
- Changing human-pet dynamics (no more getting licked by a dog, without immediately washing face/hand)
- Possible alternate greeting standards?
- collapse of the Schengen zone
- possible regime change in Iran?
- more people looking to find ways to make money online

There are just so many possibilities and potential implications. Let's discuss them here.
 

Easy_C

Crow
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

The most likely thing is that ESPECIALLY in places with lefty governments, that the increased social controls and curfews are never going away.
 

lookslikeit

Woodpecker
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Assuming this corona will be a long-term mutating disease that will keep coming every year with same intensity or stronger.

- Remote work: This one might be obvious from the fact that Tech stocks dropped less than regular stocks. This used to be the other way around. Remote work will be the preferred mode.

- Home delivery / Online Shopping for ... everything.

- Tele-medication will become big. Online schools/Universities will become the norm for field that can afford it.

- Airlines / Hotels / Mass tourism is a thing of the past.

- The EU is finished, I guess. High density, low temperatures, older population, illegal immigration will make it a hot bed for infection and high unemployment. A deadly combination.

- Higher divorce rate / Lower marriage rate / Lower birth rate.
 

Going strong

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

I'll tell you one thing that sadly has changed forever.

Biological warfare. And biological terrorism. It'll become, say, almost mainstream.

Because, whether or not the coronavirus was a biological weapon unleashed on purpose (by Suleimani?), or accidentally escaping from a Wuhan lab, the fact remains that the whole world has seen the incredible power of a small, ludicrous and cheap virus.

So you better believe that poor, or rogue, nations, and terror groups alike, will have taken notice.

There goes the hunt for uranium. Welcome the global hunt for weird cheap viruses that fuck entire nations better than nuclear bombs. More bang for a fraction of the cost.
 

AlphaRN

Woodpecker
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Going strong said:
I'll tell you one thing that sadly has changed forever.

Biological warfare. And biological terrorism. It'll become, say, almost mainstream.

Because, whether or not the coronavirus was a biological weapon unleashed on purpose (by Suleimani?), or accidentally escaping from a Wuhan lab, the fact remains that the whole world has seen the incredible power of a small, ludicrous and cheap virus.

So you better believe that poor, or rogue, nations, and terror groups alike, will have taken notice.

There goes the hunt for uranium. Welcome the global hunt for weird cheap viruses that fuck entire nations better than nuclear bombs. More bang for a fraction of the cost.
Also, far less collateral damage.

If you nuke LA, its useless to you. However, a bio weapon leaves every road, building and piece of technology intact.

Biowarfare is nothing new. In ancient times, they would catapult infected rats and dead bodies into sieged cities. Ask the Americas in the 1500s about it.

It went away for a while because we got ``smart'' with nukes and chemicals. Now, its back in the game.
 

Neo

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

AManLikePutin said:
Great thread idea.

This is such a huge moment for the world, somethings will never be the same after and we'll see many changes in the short and long term in all aspects of life.

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Some ramifications that immediately came to my mind:

- Babyboom NYE 2021?
- Increased divorce rate as a result of quarantine?
- Normalization of WFH in many companies
- Stronger push for UBI
- Speeding of automation
- Changing human-pet dynamics (no more getting licked by a dog, without immediately washing face/hand)
- Possible alternate greeting standards?
- collapse of the Schengen zone
- possible regime change in Iran?
- more people looking to find ways to make money online

There are just so many possibilities and potential implications. Let's discuss them here.
I vote for the next generation to be called Quarantennials. :icon_biggrin:
 

kel

Kingfisher
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Long term society as a whole will learn nothing from this, nothing will really change, politicians, the media, NGOs, and the usual cohort will continue life as usual and most regular people will just assume that someone is taking care of it. Two weeks after this passes you'll probably never hear about it again until the next thing like this happens.

But, we, as individuals, can learn from it and change how we live and how we prepare and protect ourselves, our families, our communities.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Waiting for Scorpion to see this thread...
 

Easy_C

Crow
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

I expect it will be like (to throwback to an old meme):

 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

We're going to see the emergence of China, this is a history defining moment.

SHTF worldwide except for a select few Asian countries and China. China will also still have a large amount of $$$, society largely in tact, industry and infrastructure in place.

We are already seeing China help out Italy and Spain by sending aid in the form of personnel and masks, this while the EU turns it's back to it's own members and neighbours.

We could very well see China offering their own "marshall plan" to countries devastated, which saw the US rebuild the world with $$$ following WWII.
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

The virus also stands to kill off a large chunk of the older population. Leaving western democracies susceptible to worsening demographic trends (a younger more diverse population of non-westerners).

Studies show that an older populace = more stability, whereas a younger one is more prone to violence and war.

Poorer third world countries are younger, they might be able to weather the storm better since it doesn't kill off the young.
 

Aurini

Ostrich
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

This is going to reprogram NPC morality.

Morality has five foundations:

Care: cherishing and protecting others; opposite of harm
Fairness or proportionality: rendering justice according to shared rules; opposite of cheating
Loyalty or ingroup: standing with your group, family, nation; opposite of betrayal
Authority or respect: submitting to tradition and legitimate authority; opposite of subversion
Sanctity or purity: abhorrence for disgusting things, foods, actions; opposite of degradation

Conservatives employ all five when making moral decisions; Liberals tend to only apply three, ignoring loyalty and purity. This disease will hammer hard on the purity button, with secondary effects on the loyalty button (xenophobia).

As a result we're going to see a conservative shift in the attitude of the population following this epidemic.
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

I suspect a huge push for mandatory vaccinations and perhaps other medical practices.

I suspect the Anti China propaganda will possibly intensify to 'weapons of mass destruction' levels. The seeds have been sown
 
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Who knows. But things may change and they may change a lot. From a social point of view, I have a feeling things are going to get more conservative. It might be that convid-19 is relatively harmless in terms of mortality et al, but, most people are still going to get the flu. Also, its a mutated strain we've never encountered ever before and it came from half way around the world. There is something very creepy about that. Our lives have changed radically in a very short period of time!

Maybe people will start getting serious too, which is what I hope for. The culture has been way to childish over the years. A good reminder of our vulnerability and mortality is a good thing, I think. I have no idea what this will mean, but, I feel I want to insist that my faith needs to be respected a lot more in culture and society today. A cake for two asshats compared to a global pandemic is a frivolity and so is insisting people automatically like or "accept" them because they engage in sodomy. I'm not >60, I'm still young(ish), but, I have asthma, so, I'm at risk and I do not want to get this disease. Than you have the impact of the global economy basically shutting down for 30 maybe 60 days and the securities market in free fall.

I think people will get their priorities straight. One thing is for sure, all of our lives have radically changed.
 
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

First of all - the borders won't be closed long-term. They want to replace the Western populations, so nothing will change long-term.

The Danes give an incling of what is to come:

+ forced vaccinations possibly every year - or otherwise you cannot fly, take a bus, enter a government building (and the side-effects will kill millions, but no one will report on that)
+ biometric ID with your current vaccination status and recent medical data - possibly chipping down the line
+ cashless society since money is supposedly virus infested
+ travel restrictions for those who even once tested positive for anything
+ greater Orwellian control and easier way of dealing with political enemies - Yellowshirt organizers in France will have had the virus just as Chinese protest leaders will be ashes by now since they all succumbed sadly to the virus

It all meshes nicely with a few other agendas like Agenda21 which wants to restrict free travel. Possible that travel will become much much more expensive as they always wanted to. Some Agenda21 documents point out towards a world where most people can afford only Netflix-propaganda, porn, fake-meat-insect-protein-food and a bit of local entertainment - even if that is still decades away.

Though - it's not that it will end all tourism, travel and certainly mass migration to the West. That must continue for the next decades. It's just that they want greater control, make certain travel options more expensive.

This thing is the 9/11 of a new agenda push - possible that a few Israelis are dancing somewhere - or it's beyond their paygrade as well.
 

Brodiaga

Ostrich
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

I dunno about you guys but I'm waiting for some helicopter money from the gubmint. I was arguing against Andrew Young's ideas in the RVF thread about his campaign but now I'm kind of changing my mind about that. I mean I am still anti-socialist ideologically, but at the same time I'm like gimme that sweet welfare money just because. I will also vote for whoever promises me more of it. To hell with economic fundamentals.
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

I'm ready for payroll taxes to be canceled the rest of the year, or else mortgage interest waived. I would be able to really make some rapid progress on my financial goals if I could get out from under either or both for any period of time.

More generally, I've noticed this pandemic seems to affect almost every major issue that was already a source of controversy and strife. It definitely makes things interesting. I just hope none of my loved ones gets is and is unable to receive treatment when they need it.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Emancipator said:
We're going to see the emergence of China, this is a history defining moment.

SHTF worldwide except for a select few Asian countries and China. China will also still have a large amount of $$$, society largely in tact, industry and infrastructure in place.

We are already seeing China help out Italy and Spain by sending aid in the form of personnel and masks, this while the EU turns it's back to it's own members and neighbours.

We could very well see China offering their own "marshall plan" to countries devastated, which saw the US rebuild the world with $$$ following WWII.
I think just the opposite. China is fucked and they know it. Trying to blame the USA for the Wuhan virus is a sign of weakness and desperation.

Does China actually create anything? Their strategic strength is they got a billion people willing to work for low wages making our stuff.

People are waking up that China is an evil regime and we can’t rely on them for our supply chains.

Watch the US move supply chains out of CHYNA and watch their economy implode.
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
RE: Coronavirus Socioeconomic/Cultural/Political Ramifications

Not completely disqualifying from all realms of possibility that the Zog had anything to do with this conveniently timed viral outbreak in China is as crazy as thinking Assad didn't really gas his own people or that 9/11 wasn't really orchestrated by some Afghan goat herders.

....oh wait
 
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