Coronavirus Economic, Cultural, Political Ramifications


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Certainly those 2 things are not related - savvy investors just take advantage of the farmers going bankrupt pumping trillions into farmland real estate.


By the way - if everyone is positive, everyone is working without even having the sniffles, doesn't this slightly devalue those tests.

Nevermind - let's bankrupt the farmers and surrender the land to the trillionaires and billionaires of the world - I am certain that they will not abuse that power once they control almost all of the food like charging you 100$ for a burger made out of beef and 20$ for their overpriced vegan burger.



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Attention Broke Millennials: Roundtrip Airfare Has Never Been Lower

Airline shares have erupted in August after federal data showed a bump in air travel volumes is now at five-month highs.

The latest data via Transportation Security Administration (TSA) checkpoints at U.S. airports has surged in the last ten days, now at the highest levels since mid-March. However, TSA's total traveler throughput data for the same weekday one year ago (Monday, August 10) is still down nearly 70%.

For the broke millennials, whom many are unemployed, and set to receive another stimulus check, here are some unbelievable roundtrip deals later this month (should be around the time when the next checks arrive):
  • New York City to Miami for $27
  • New York City to Atlanta for $27
  • New York City to New Orleans for $58
  • New York City to Dallas for $27
  • New York City to Los Angeles $51



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NYC eateries plan lawsuit to force Cuomo, de Blasio to allow indoor dining

A coalition of 100 Staten Island and Brooklyn restaurants are planning a class-action lawsuit to force the city and state to reopen indoor dining in New York.

“It feels like the government is moving the goal posts,” said Thomas Casatelli, who owns four restaurants in the two boroughs including the self-described “taco joint” Ho’Brah in Bay Ridge and West Brighton.

“We were supposed to be open July 6, now we’re hearing from the mayor we can’t open until there’s a vaccine. Who knows when that will be,” Casatelli said Thursday at a Staten Island press conference with other restaurateurs, their lawyers and local elected officials.

“The business owners that are here today, they did what they were told to do. They did what they had to do to help flatten the curve,” said Republican Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis at the event.

“We met the metrics, so why are we being discriminated against as a municipality?” she asked.

The city’s positive testing rate is under 1 percent and every other county in the state allows indoor dining at partial capacity.

Indoor dining was part of Phase Three of Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s coronavirus reopening plan. New York City entered that phase in early July, but the governor and the mayor have only allowed outdoor dining within the five boroughs.

De Blasio said during a City Hall press conference Thursday there’s no timetable to fully reopen local restaurants because “we have to see a lot more improvement in fighting this virus.” Earlier this week, de Blasio said indoor dining might not return until there’s a coronavirus vaccine.

“We are putting together a class-action lawsuit on behalf of the Staten Island and Bay Ridge restaurant owners against the mayor, against the governor on the basis of they’ve completely exceeded their authority and stepped on the Constitution of the United States,” Lou Gelormino, attorney for the eateries, said at the press conference.

His co-counsel, Mark Fonte, said the suit will be filed in Staten Island Supreme Court within the next two weeks.

“What put the restaurateurs over the edge was [the mayor’s] announcement the other day that there will be no indoor dining until there’s a vaccine. Enough is enough. These restaurant owners simply can’t afford to shut down for the winter season,” he said.

Andrew Rigie, head of the NYC Hospitality Alliance, is not a party to the suit, but also doesn’t oppose the legal action.

“We’re reviewing our options and we will review this lawsuit. We still hope to work cooperatively with Governor Cuomo to open restaurants up indoors, but as I said yesterday, many restaurant owners have had enough and now the court may have to decide this issue.

“It’s unfortunate it had to get to this point,” Rigie said.

His group surveyed city eateries and found that 83 percent couldn’t make their full rent in July.

A spokesman for the mayor declined to comment on potential litigation and referred to de Blasio’s recent remarks on the issue.

Reps for the governor did not immediately respond to requests for comment.




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They’re saying that the solution is to make up the economic loss by replacing the people who left with migrants.
From the article:
Optimists include Andrew Hacker, Queens College professor, Upper West Sider and author of a new Trump book called "Downfall," who tells Axios that the city will bounce back.

  • "What’s going to really save New York is immigrants," says Hacker, who has taught political science to many generations of them.
  • While lots of New Yorkers are leaving, "out there in Bangalore and Ukraine and Natal, there are people who want to be New Yorkers" who will gladly take their place, bringing their ambition and brainpower.



Wow, who could have guessed that the solution would be right in front of us this whole time! The only question is whether the fleeing New Yorkers are going to continue making the kind of money that we can tax enough to feed, cloth, ect all the new New Yorkers.


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Music stars from COVID-19-infected states get pass on NYC quarantine rules for VMAs

“The Mayor’s Office of Media and Entertainment and Citywide Events is working in close coordination with the production to ensure guidelines are being followed,” a City Hall spokesperson said, adding that the NYPD unit will be doing “compliance checks during the production.”

But unlike other travelers, the VMA musicians, singers and dancers won’t have to follow a state rule to quarantine for 14 days if they come to New York from any of 34 states, including California and Florida, with average COVID infection rates exceeding 10 percent.

Under an executive order by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, anyone who violates the quarantine order is subject to a fine up to $10,000 or up to 15 days in jail.

But the state Department of Health has granted the VMAs a semi-exemption to the quarantine rule.

They can “participate in the production of the show,” a spokeswoman for Cuomo said, “but they will only interact with other members of the cast and crew and will quarantine when not working.”

To receive the exemption, the VMAs agreed to police itself with “rigorous safety protocols including testing and screening and compliance checks by a special compliance officer.”

Some celebs are finding other ways to skirt the COVID-19 rules.

Kanye West flew into Teterboro Airport, N.J., on Thursday, then headed into Manhattan, where he pulled over on the West Side Highway to switch vehicles, and visited an art gallery in Chelsea, The Post reported.

NYC’s “Test and Trace” program, run by the city’s Health + Hospitals, has made more than 200,000 phone calls and texts to the restricted travelers since June 8, including 110,000 who landed in airports, officials told The Post.

The contact tracers have also knocked on 2,000 doors looking for people who didn’t answer the calls and texts, and found about half of them, they said Friday.

“New Yorkers we are reaching indicate that they are safely separating, and appreciate the resources we are offering to support them,” such as food delivery or a free hotel room if needed, a spokesperson said.

The city’s Sheriff’s Office has also stopped 2,197 private vehicles crossing the George Washington, Goethals and Bayonne bridges, the Outerbridge Crossing and the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, a tiny fraction of the cars that enter New York each day. Masks are also distributed.

If drivers say they have spent extended time in a restricted state, they, too, must fill out a traveler health form and self-quarantine for 14 days, officials said.

The checkpoints and required forms have raised some hackles. Staten Island City Councilman Joseph Borelli called the rules “insane.”

“This is an unconstitutional breach of authority. States are added and taken off the (restricted) list a week later. No reasonable person can plan their life around Cuomo’s whims and de Blasio’s desperation,” he griped.



Fitting to the NYC 'changes' here the opinion of Jerry Seinfeld:

Seinfeld does his comments about 'tough New Yorkers who stay and rebuild' - while he waits out the riots and covid from his mansion in the Hamptons.

This is indeed highly different from previous crime waves or times of chaos in NYC. Covid will make far more people unemployed and workers can work from home or from cheaper cities. And it's true that they can replace the fleeing New Yorkers with people from Bangalore, South America and Africa, but this will change the city strongly. My guess is that Seinfeld will just stay in the Hamptons long-term. I like Seinfeld, but he is too far removed from the reality.
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One of the funny aspect of our times is to sell communism in a new garb. The sharing economy is one such aspect where they want to push the serfs into. The end goal sometimes this century is that the average serf does not own anything at all and is at the complete mercy of giant corporations who will own the very things you are 'sharing'. IN the end they will just take a share of your life or wife.


Business has been so terrible for us that we had to shut down again. We spun it as "rising cases" and "public safety" (which killed me a little bit), but the real reason was simply that it costs us more to have the lights on than we're bringing in in revenue.

You should've called it what it is. You can do so in a relatively safe/neutral-ish way, I'd think. "Due to the complexities of operating and the economic shockwaves this shutdown has caused, we are temporarily closing..."


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Hawaii is getting destroyed by covid. We are in full lockdown. Next week they are going to shut down a major freeway to do massive amounts of drive-through testing. We had the US Surgeon General out here a few days ago to get this rolling. Our state government can't handle it, they say.

Tourism has been closed for six months. Vacation rentals are illegal. Work from home means less commercial properties are necessary.

My opinion is that this is a massive drive-down of property values. This is prime US real estate that is going to be sold off on the cheap. Considering the high median home price and the new mortgage rules, it is going to become nearly impossible for youngsters to buy. This is bad.



Gold Member is this real or are people just magically testing positive? Do you know anyone who has it?

What a farce. Refuse testing. Refuse the vaccine. Refuse everything.

Finally in this last week I have spoken over the phone with a guy who was positive. He is asymptomatic but tested positive. I have several family and friends who I trust that actually know people that are positive.

As of today, there have been 8139 total cases statewide. It has been very puzzling how out of that number, considering it's an island, I know so few positive people. I know everybody, and if I don't I know somebody who knows them.

There are videos circulating about how Hawaii gets the most money of any state per covid infection. There are 3 big hospital systems here that get the money. They all donate heavily to our already corrupt government. They get something like $310k per case.

We were doing great and numbers were like 20 a day until magically on July 23rd they went to 150-200 plus per day. Today is 310.

I live in maybe the world's most iconic little surf town. There's the small shacks but then there's also huge mansions. Add the restaurants and stores all being closed because of either full shutdowns or because of the 14 day quarantine, the whole North Shore is for sale. Google "Haleiwa Zillow" and look at all the red dots. Sad part is there's very few people that qualify to buy.



Does Hawaii have special mortgage rules? A few luckier younger people whose employment continues will be able to take advantage of the lower home prices, I hope.