Coronavirus Lounge thread

Edin

Sparrow

June will be the month when they will try to really accelerate the push for vax passes.

COVID “Health Pass” Approved by France’s Parliament

On May 12, 2021, the French National Assembly passed a bill approving the use of a COVID pass sanitaire or “health pass.” The pass, which would be in digital form or paper, would be required as of June 9 to prove an individual has either been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, recently tested negative for SARS-CoV-2 or has recovered from the virus as a prerequisite for attending certain sports and cultural events in France or leaving the country.

As with the masks, they start with baby steps.
Reportedly, the pass sanitaire apparently would not apply to daily activities such as going to restaurants, movie theaters and museums, although Philippe Latombe, spokesperson for France’s centrist MODEM party, seems skeptical.

Implementation of the pass sanitaire is expected to coincide with the introduction of a COVID digital health pass or “green certificate” by the European Union (EU) in mid-June. “It will be ready for summer to facilitate safe travelling, so it will be ready to use by the end of June,” EU spokesperson Christian Wigand.8 9

The pass sanitaire will reportedly be recognized by all 27 EU member nations and can be used for travel within Europe beginning on June 17.

And I am afraid bad news for the Americans too.

OSHA Revises Employer Guidelines on COVID Vaccine Reactions to Avoid “Appearance” of Discouraging Vaccination

 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Its another manufactured ruse. They are only saying it is lab made to push something else.

This isn't about the truth and never has been. We are subverted and demoralised so we break and things like this serve that purpose.

The Hong Kong doctor who had to flee China - Li-Meng Yan.
Had testimony & evidence back in September last year, that it was Chinese lab made.


Which is one matter. Yet she's been linked to Bannon & Guiliani since then.

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How would Bannon & Guiliani fit into the idea that it's a ruse?
 
The Hong Kong doctor who had to flee China - Li-Meng Yan.
Had testimony & evidence back in September last year, that it was Chinese lab made.


Which is one matter. Yet she's been linked to Bannon & Guiliani since then.

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How would Bannon & Guiliani fit into the idea that it's a ruse?

A lot of these whistle blowers are likely CCP agents selling the west on this fake virus psyop.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
A lot of these whistle blowers are likely CCP agents selling the west on this fake virus psyop.

Possible.
Yet is the creation of a Covid type virus via a Chinese lab not the most logical explanation?

Last year the Fake News media weren't in agreement that the China Virus was from a Wuhan Lab; & were actively decrying, denouncing or dismissing Bannon & co. For example :

Daily Beast Sep. 16, 2020 :

Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID​

https:// www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-study-claiming-china-manufactured-covid

Forbes Sep 17, 2020 :

‘Whistleblower’ Claiming China Created Covid-19 Coronavirus Has Ties To Steve Bannon​

https:// www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/17/whistleblower-claiming-china-created-covid-19-coronavirus-has-ties-to-steve-bannon/


Yet now there's a sudden willingness to acknowledge Chinese lab links. Or at least, to some extent.
What changed?
Are the Globalists suddenly changing tactics?
Is the Narrative suddenly shifting for Globalist reasons or for other reasons?

Yes war with China & any division from that is stupid.
Yet I don't see China sitting back peacefully & nicely if we don't recognize their sinister ways. Just as we don't ignore sinister Globalist ways.
All the while, I don't expect China to sit back peacefully or nicely if we go the Neville Chamberlain route with China.

War is stupid. Globalist initiated war is even more stupid.
Doesn't mean China won't still cause chaos & drama for their benefit.


I'll also liken the situation to this.
Shortly after 9/11. You may have convinced some NPC's that the U.S. government let the attacks happen.
You may have even been able to convince some NPC's that the U.S. government was a part of the attacks to promote the Patriot Act & the War On Terror.
You don't really need to go that next conspiratorial step by saying the planes were remote controlled or holograms...

The attacks happened. The U.S. government being involved &/or complicit is enough of a sinister situation.
The more fantastical ideas are just as likely to muddy the waters...
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
The Hong Kong doctor who had to flee China - Li-Meng Yan.
Had testimony & evidence back in September last year, that it was Chinese lab made.


Which is one matter. Yet she's been linked to Bannon & Guiliani since then.

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How would Bannon & Guiliani fit into the idea that it's a ruse?


You didnt understand my post.

They spent the better half of a year demonising the Wuhan Lab origins. Deplatforming media and professionals who pushed that narrative. I remember a professor talking about how all BSL 4 labs are bio weapon development centres and should be shut down. He didnt get very far.

Now they're saying"yes, the likelihood of this coming from a lab is quite high". And they're editing their articles from way back to then claim they did not slam the conspiracy theory of its lab origins.

That isn't just deceit, its straight up gas lighting on a large scale and designed to demoralise.

They did the same thing for Covid passes, passports and vaccine take up. No we wont go there thats a conspiracy theory! And then deny they ever said it and the legacy media refuses to call them out on it in any meaningful way because they're all compromised.

The alt media has little clout to the masses unfortunately, in no part thanks to crazed lunatics pushing 5G and other crap. 80-90% truth, 10% bullshit to make you look crazy by association. Thanks Alex Jones!

This isn't by accident because it serves a purpose.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
The Hong Kong doctor who had to flee China - Li-Meng Yan.
Had testimony & evidence back in September last year, that it was Chinese lab made.


Which is one matter. Yet she's been linked to Bannon & Guiliani since then.

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OIP.jpg



How would Bannon & Guiliani fit into the idea that it's a ruse?
I don't trust Bannon or Guiliani. I think they're both part of a false dialectic. Conscientious insiders in politics simply don't survive. I view them all as merely actors playing parts on a political stage to a script that they had no part in writing. They can improvise within reason, but cannot deviate too far from the what the directors demand. I think the idea that someone will emerge from within the system to save us from that very system, is a forlorn hope.
 
Yet is the creation of a Covid type virus via a Chinese lab not the most logical explanation?
No, it’s not. This article does a good job explaining why:


…OK, but seriously, could Covid be a bioweapon?

Well, obviously it could be. We don’t know enough to say that it’s impossible. But it’s not very likely.

For one thing, there’s the question of efficacy.

It’s still a matter of some debate whether the Sars-Cov-2 virus has been isolated to the point it has even been proven to exist. Supposing it definitely exists as a discrete entity, it hasn’t at this time fulfilled Koch’s postulates to the point it is proven to cause disease.

But even if you accept those two questions as resolved: The virus doesexist, and it does cause Covid19. Well, you’re still looking at a disease that is symptomless in the majority of people exposed to it, only ever mild in the vast majority of people who get sick, and has a 99.8% survival rate.

If Covid is a bioweapon, it’s a rubbish one.

Secondly, there’s the question of efficiency and expense.

What, exactly, would be the point in a bioweapon which is no more deadly than common flu viruses? Why go to the trouble of creating a pretty much harmless virus in a lab?

Supposing you were interested in creating a pandemic, would that be a good way of doing it? Would it be worth the expense? Wouldn’t it be simpler to just make-believe there was a plague through fear-porn and statistical sleight-of-hand?

After all, an imaginary pandemic can infect whoever you want, spare whoever you like, start and stop at your convenience, obey any rules you care to make up and be cured instantly as long as everyone pays you for your “vaccine”.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
You didnt understand my post.

They spent the better half of a year demonising the Wuhan Lab origins. Deplatforming media and professionals who pushed that narrative. I remember a professor talking about how all BSL 4 labs are bio weapon development centres and should be shut down. He didnt get very far.

Now they're saying"yes, the likelihood of this coming from a lab is quite high". And they're editing their articles from way back to then claim they did not slam the conspiracy theory of its lab origins.

That isn't just deceit, its straight up gas lighting on a large scale and designed to demoralise.

They did the same thing for Covid passes, passports and vaccine take up. No we wont go there thats a conspiracy theory! And then deny they ever said it and the legacy media refuses to call them out on it in any meaningful way because they're all compromised.

The alt media has little clout to the masses unfortunately, in no part thanks to crazed lunatics pushing 5G and other crap. 80-90% truth, 10% bullshit to make you look crazy by association. Thanks Alex Jones!

This isn't by accident because it serves a purpose.

Is demoralization the sole reason for a potential Globalist Narrative shift in terms of a Chinese lab origin?
Seems most folk are already panicked enough with the existing Fake News & fear mongering.

The NPC crowd are already onboard with the Globalist Narrative as it is / was after-all.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member

Creating a virus does not imply it was intended as a dangerous &/or deadly bio-weapon.
Cyber warfare is not really dangerous to individual soldiers. Asymmetric warfare is not dependent on a body count.
Bio-warfare in addition, does not necessarily need to rely on a body count. As the Plan-demic has demonstrated.

Plus, in line with that article quote you posted, the Sinister Swines will fear monger the situation either way. Virus or not.

You'll struggle to convince the average NPC that the virus is no where near as deadly as the fear mongering Fake News crowd make it out to be.
If you can convince a believing NPC that the virus does not exist at all.
Well, your persuasion skills would be far better than mine.

That the sinister Plan-demic has come into play, virus or not. Is already sinister enough.
That we here are not supposed to fear the virus. If it does not exist at all, then there's even less to fear.
Yet either way. We still have to deal with the Plan-demic & most likely, the "Great Reset".
 

FrancisK

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Can anyone tell me how dangerous the PCR test is ?

I'm thinking if travelling soon but I don't want that thing shoved into my skull.

Where you headed? If it’s Mexico don’t worry it’s a joke. I didn’t want to do it at the resort I figured they would be more strict about it and I could find a doctor in town that would bs for me with enough cash but I laughed it up with the nurse there and she guaranteed me a negative test with a wink. I tipped her when I paid and she barely touched my nostril with it, total joke I love Mexico.

On the plane back the stewardess kept yelling at me to keep my mask on and I said “but why we all just tested negative didn’t we?”, she walked off....
 
You'll struggle to convince the average NPC that the virus is no where near as deadly as the fear mongering Fake News crowd make it out to be.
If you can convince a believing NPC that the virus does not exist at all.
Well, your persuasion skills would be far better than mine.
I agree with all this, and I don’t even try to convince anyone that the virus doesn’t exist at all.

However, what is actually factually TRUE is a separate issue from what can be explained and made comprehensible to the general public.

That article wasn’t written to convince an NPC. It was written for a readership already well aware of the scam, and written to discuss the evidence pro vs con as to whether we are dealing with a lab generated bio weapon. His conclusion is sound: not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that the whole mirage of a deadly pandemic derives from the misused PCR technology. Without PCR, the whole phenomenon of “asymptomatic spread” wouldn’t exist in anyone’s mind at all. It is this false belief that you can be a totally asymptomatic yet still sick and contagious super-spreader that is responsible for the mass insanity.

You don’t need a new bio-weapon for that. All you need is PCR and a hysteria-pushing, lying, fake news media.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
Further to the London march yesterday, this is a video highlight showing the sheer numbers. Looking at the crowd, it just goes to show that all those years of government giving license to the masses to indulge in all manner of degeneracy cannot be so easily taken away. I can't find a mention of it by the BBC, not even on London news. This is a BIG mistake they're making here.
 
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GuitarVH

Sparrow
I agree with all this, and I don’t even try to convince anyone that the virus doesn’t exist at all.

However, what is actually factually TRUE is a separate issue from what can be explained and made comprehensible to the general public.

That article wasn’t written to convince an NPC. It was written for a readership already well aware of the scam, and written to discuss the evidence pro vs con as to whether we are dealing with a lab generated bio weapon. His conclusion is sound: not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that the whole mirage of a deadly pandemic derives from the misused PCR technology. Without PCR, the whole phenomenon of “asymptomatic spread” wouldn’t exist in anyone’s mind at all. It is this false belief that you can be a totally asymptomatic yet still sick and contagious super-spreader that is responsible for the mass insanity.

You don’t need a new bio-weapon for that. All you need is PCR and a hysteria-pushing, lying, fake news media.

Good post. 100% agreement.
 

LeoniusD

Pelican
Further to the London march yesterday, this is a video highlight showing the sheer numbers. Looking at the crowd, it just goes to show that all those years of government giving license to the masses to indulge in all manner of degeneracy cannot be so easily taken away. I can't find a mention of it by the BBC, not even on London news. This is a BIG mistake they're making here.
They will ignore it. Ever heard of the biggest European protest that happened in autumn 2020 in Berlin? 1.5 mio. people were present there before the cops shut it down. The press said that 17.000 came and everyone forgot about it. Then they cleverly shut down other protests by going directly after the organizers, even using SWAT teams against doctors who participated. One doctor there recently killed himself - Jens Bengen - he was swatted and fined into oblivion.

What do they risk when ignoring the protests when the majority of the country will get themselves jabbed sooner or later anyway? What will the dissenters do? There won't be any armed uprising and they will get the children - the real target of the covid vaccines simply with the childhood vaccinations. And the teens and students will have to get jabbed in order to travel and even study, get hired for a decent job. Their fertility reduction is as good as certain. The only protests which have some violent teeth are wanted and even steered from above - Antifa, BLM.

A guy said it recently with regard to the Great Reset - Davos - protests. The small Bolshevik peasants protest against the big Bolshevik bosses sitting in their five star hotels. But both parties are Bolsheviks - and only Bolshevik protest are allowed.

When it's as big as this one they don't use the shut-down strategy. They let it happen and the media stays silent about it. And this works so long as the demonstrating crowds don't become 15,25 or 35% of the entire population. A few hundred thousand or even a few million showing up once is still a far cry away from it.
 
Possible.
Yet is the creation of a Covid type virus via a Chinese lab not the most logical explanation?

Last year the Fake News media weren't in agreement that the China Virus was from a Wuhan Lab; & were actively decrying, denouncing or dismissing Bannon & co. For example :

Daily Beast Sep. 16, 2020 :

Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID​

https:// www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-study-claiming-china-manufactured-covid

Forbes Sep 17, 2020 :

‘Whistleblower’ Claiming China Created Covid-19 Coronavirus Has Ties To Steve Bannon​

https:// www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/17/whistleblower-claiming-china-created-covid-19-coronavirus-has-ties-to-steve-bannon/


Yet now there's a sudden willingness to acknowledge Chinese lab links. Or at least, to some extent.
What changed?
Are the Globalists suddenly changing tactics?
Is the Narrative suddenly shifting for Globalist reasons or for other reasons?

Yes war with China & any division from that is stupid.
Yet I don't see China sitting back peacefully & nicely if we don't recognize their sinister ways. Just as we don't ignore sinister Globalist ways.
All the while, I don't expect China to sit back peacefully or nicely if we go the Neville Chamberlain route with China.

War is stupid. Globalist initiated war is even more stupid.
Doesn't mean China won't still cause chaos & drama for their benefit.


I'll also liken the situation to this.
Shortly after 9/11. You may have convinced some NPC's that the U.S. government let the attacks happen.
You may have even been able to convince some NPC's that the U.S. government was a part of the attacks to promote the Patriot Act & the War On Terror.
You don't really need to go that next conspiratorial step by saying the planes were remote controlled or holograms...

The attacks happened. The U.S. government being involved &/or complicit is enough of a sinister situation.
The more fantastical ideas are just as likely to muddy the waters...

Theory that Covid19 came from wet market bats: virus is real, masks, lockdown, vaccines, immunity passports.

Theory that covid19 was a wuhan lab/leak bioweapon: virus is real, masks, lockdown, vaccines, immunity passports.

Both lead to the same outcome. Let me know when the main stream news outlets start reporting on the lack of excess deaths, uselessness of the PCR test in identifying viral infections and the lack of covid19 isolation. Until then it's all just theater that feeds into the psyop.
 
Leonius, with all due respect, this kind of “it’s all futile” outlook is a kind of crutch in itself. It’s a way of soothing oneself so we don’t get our hopes up only to see them dashed.

No large scale protest is useless. It takes time, but it’s important not to give in too soon and throw up your hands in despair. I don’t think our overlords are infallible geniuses. They are very clever and deceptive but not infallible or invulnerable. To see them as omnipotent is very dangerous because it saps our energy and makes us give up.

Let’s please remember they are attempting a global takeover and a coup on a scale never attempted before in human history. And while they are an immensely powerful elite I’m not sure they have anyone as brilliant and cunning as Hitler or Stalin among them. And there must be fractures or fissures amongst the elite, otherwise why are negative news stories about Gates and Fauci being allowed to filter out after years of sanctification?

Incessant, nonstop blackpilling isn’t necessarily healthy. The fact that these large scale protests exist is important and shouldn’t be seen as pointless.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
They will ignore it. Ever heard of the biggest European protest that happened in autumn 2020 in Berlin? 1.5 mio. people were present there before the cops shut it down. The press said that 17.000 came and everyone forgot about it. Then they cleverly shut down other protests by going directly after the organizers, even using SWAT teams against doctors who participated. One doctor there recently killed himself - Jens Bengen - he was swatted and fined into oblivion.

What do they risk when ignoring the protests when the majority of the country will get themselves jabbed sooner or later anyway? What will the dissenters do? There won't be any armed uprising and they will get the children - the real target of the covid vaccines simply with the childhood vaccinations. And the teens and students will have to get jabbed in order to travel and even study, get hired for a decent job. Their fertility reduction is as good as certain. The only protests which have some violent teeth are wanted and even steered from above - Antifa, BLM.

A guy said it recently with regard to the Great Reset - Davos - protests. The small Bolshevik peasants protest against the big Bolshevik bosses sitting in their five star hotels. But both parties are Bolsheviks - and only Bolshevik protest are allowed.

When it's as big as this one they don't use the shut-down strategy. They let it happen and the media stays silent about it. And this works so long as the demonstrating crowds don't become 15,25 or 35% of the entire population. A few hundred thousand or even a few million showing up once is still a far cry away from it.
I mostly agree with you. But the thing is these protests have legs and ignoring it will fuel it, especially among the young and rebellious. The agenda will push on, but there is going to be growing resistance. How tptb deal with rising dissent is going to be crucial. Up until now their approach has been to use psychological warfare to get the masses to fall into line, if they take off the velvet glove and use force, then everything they've done to date, the lies and manipulation, will become apparent to most people. It seems to me that they want the herd pacified and to go quietly to their graves, not create panic, anger and retribution. How will they sell mass slaughter to the armed forces. This is a dynamic situation and things could change very quickly.
 
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