Coronavirus Lounge thread

Enoch

Hummingbird
T
How do the tests tell a difference between normal covid, delta, and omnicron?
They don't.

I own a decent size company in the building trades and I asked this very question of the occupational care provider that I use. For context it is a small independent provider and I pay them ~2k month. This was a couple weeks into the delta scam. Maybe things have changed since then.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
T

They don't.

I own a decent size company in the building trades and I asked this very question of the occupational care provider that I use. For context it is a small independent provider and I pay them ~2k month. This was a couple weeks into the delta scam. Maybe things have changed since then.
Is “normal covid” confirmed to have been isolated in the first place?
 

Nordwand

Kingfisher
Other Christian
As the UK begins it's worship of the new god's latest variation, it appears that official statements have been altered to remove a certain word, so as not to cause offence to ethnic minorities:

 

Lawrence87

Woodpecker
Orthodox
The lack of consistency in the nomenclature is an indication of the unscientific nature of it.

If you are going to use Greek letters, then it would make sense to go through the Greek alphabet, with each subsequent variant being the next letter in the alphabet. That is what someone logical and scientific would do.

The fact that they went from 'delta' to 'omicron' makes no sense and has no justification whatsoever, other than the fact that some PR person probably suggested that Greek letters weren't scary enough.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Travel bans are going up like clockwork.

Klaus tells us in the Great Reset that entertainment flights are not of the future. Travel will be very limited. If people are moving they're more difficult to control compared than they're in the same area all the time.

On another note I read Edward Bernays' propaganda and this is a small but insightful book that you can very much relate to the current coronavirus hype, especially through the media. His thesis is that there is an invisible system of a tiny group of men that steers the opinions, tastes and ideas of the masses. The core of succesful propaganda is this: make the people think they choose a product/idea themselves, instead of ''forcing'' them to do it, which he argues is the old way of propaganda. We clearly see a combination of this old and new form of propaganda in the coronavirus narrative: old as in ''take the vaccine it is good for your health'' and ''if you're not taking the vaccine you're going to die'', new as in that the entire societal conditions are formed in a way where the vaccine or being vaccinated is desirable and even fashionable. So then we get the vaccinated are good people in general, if you have the vaccine the media and politics hence society will celebrate you, with the vaccine you can get status.

So this explains why they're pushing so hard to normalize this vaccinating: if it's normal and fashionable, people will feel that they choose for it themselves, hence it will be near to impossible to get out of it and change their ways as when someone has made a choice feeling they did it themselves ego and pride will come in the way of turning that decision around. Brilliant play. Propaganda in Bernays' view by the way is just the propagation of an idea or product, so not necessarily evil, although it can very easily be used and usually is to convey products or ideas that do damage to people, although not always.

Bottom line is this: we hardly realize how deep the rabbit hole of influence on our minds is. This goes much broader than the corona stuff, but also general marketing, education, society, it's endless. So we must be able to take a step back and see these influences in order to discern which ones are truth and which ones are pushed out there to hurt and destroy us, by people willingly or unwillingly, consciously or unconsciously, as most people just repeat what they hear from society to be the right thing to do.
 

Nordwand

Kingfisher
Other Christian
An unplanned trip into town this morning, in order to walk around unmasked, before the latest bout of The Madness begins in a few days time. The pop up calendar shop has reduced prices, which tells you how they're thinking, and one or two shops have already put up "Mask Required" signs. Meanwhile, sitting down with a cup of coffee and The Sunday Times, there was so much covid propaganda that I felt like I'd only received half a paper.
 

Padouk

Kingfisher
Non-Christian
So this explains why they're pushing so hard to normalize this vaccinating: if it's normal and fashionable, people will feel that they choose for it themselves, hence it will be near to impossible to get out of it and change their ways as when someone has made a choice feeling they did it themselves ego and pride will come in the way of turning that decision around. Brilliant play. Propaganda in Bernays' view by the way is just the propagation of an idea or product, so not necessarily evil, although it can very easily be used and usually is to convey products or ideas that do damage to people, although not always.

By far the best explanation of the method but unless we know exactly what's in it, we still don't know "why".

Wow - my apologies then. Certainly had me fooled! Won't post unless I am 100% certain. No idea why someone would do this, smh. Shame I cannot edit/delete post after 1 hour.

We all get fooled from time to time - that's what information overload does to us.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member
The lack of consistency in the nomenclature is an indication of the unscientific nature of it.

If you are going to use Greek letters, then it would make sense to go through the Greek alphabet, with each subsequent variant being the next letter in the alphabet. That is what someone logical and scientific would do.

The fact that they went from 'delta' to 'omicron' makes no sense and has no justification whatsoever, other than the fact that some PR person probably suggested that Greek letters weren't scary enough.

Yes indeed.
BS & politics.
There's a Zerohedge article implying the World (non)Health Org. purposefully dodged the Xi letter; so as to avoid an un-PC situation.

Never mind that the Greek letter Xi predates the Chinese head of state by millennia.
No.
It's all pathetic politics...

Speaking of ancient languages.

Politics.
Latin for many tics...



Edit.
Found it :

WHO Explains Why It Skipped 'Xi' When Naming New COVID-19 Variant Omicron

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"...the WHO “is again avoiding any discomfort for the Chinese government..."
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member
Voxday :

The Facts on the Ground

Karl Denninger reminds us of what we now know from experience, rather than theory, as the media begins its latest round of fearmongering over the so-called “omicron” variant which supposedly emerged in Botswana. Or South Africa. Or, possibly, Australia.
This “variant” has been found all over the world already. Therefore its already everywhere. Locking down travel after it is already in your nation is stupid and does nothing. The variant is either going to become dominant or it will not. You cannot alter that course once it gets to you — and no matter where you are it already has.
This “variant” has no evidence of being more deadly; it may in fact be less-so. Indeed that is the natural mutational pattern coronaviruses follow over time. There is no evidence in the form, for example, of higher hospital admissions, ICU utilization and death in those in which this variant has been detected. In other words thus far all the scaremongering has been based on….. exactly nothing as there are no facts currently in evidence to support such fear.
The vaccines clearly do not work. International travel has been vaccinated-only everywhere for quite some time. So the person(s) who brought the virus into your nation with this “variant” were vaccinated. The market, of course, responded to this news by spiking the vaccine companies, specifically Moderna. You have to wonder what sort of stupidity would drive someone to consider a firm that has one product which clearly did not work a “buy” in a situation like this. Mass psychosis is the only reasonable explanation.
Lockdowns and constraints clearly do not work either. The virus mutated because that’s what viruses do, and specifically coronaviruses do this all the time. It’s common. Further, vaccinating into an outbreak promotes vaccine-resistant strains because that’s just how natural selection works. You want the opposite but you can’t get there from here by vaccinating people while an outbreak is going on so the better option is to focus on early treatments and even prophylaxis which does not place immune pressure on the virus to evade your jabs.
Meanwhile the evidence continues to mount that prior infection confers better resistance than vaccines. Perfect immunity? No. But much better immunity and, to three nines, perfect protection against critical illness and death.
There were no cases of critical disease at reinfection and 28 cases at primary infection (Table S3), for an odds ratio of 0.00 (95% CI, 0.00 to 0.64). There were no cases of death from Covid-19 at reinfection and 7 cases at primary infection resulting in an odds ratio of 0.00…
So which do you prefer, since while the jabs do appear to provide some protection it wanes and it certainly does not prevent 100% of the severe and fatal outcomes.
Never mind the jab side effect profiles, which are quite dangerous, the evidence is mounting that the intermediate and long-term dangers are very significant and, in addition, there is mounting evidence that if you get jabbed and then are infected, and you will get infected, you are likely to not build “N” protein recognition so you can get infected again and again until you get the bad case that screws you. This is due to a well-recognized phenomena called “OAS” (“Original Antigenic Sin”) and is directly caused by the vaccines as they “train” your body to produce “S” antibodies, which is all they contain coding for and not “N” protein antibodies which are critical as the virus cannot mutate in that part to any material degree and remain a viable virus.
On the other hand the evidence is that beating the disease without a jab once means you have durable protection against critical and fatal outcomes on an extremely reliable basis including potential mutations since the “N” protein does not and cannot undergo substantial change.
The latter, by the way, is the pattern for every serious viral disease outbreak through history.
It’s becoming increasingly obvious that this entire two-year global anti-virus campaign has been a charade. Whatever the true objective was, neither saving lives nor health care was actually the purpose. Which reminds us, once again, that the one thing we can be absolutely certain is not true is whatever the official story being pushed by the government-media complex is.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Other Christian
Gold Member
This Karl Denninger post is a black pill... it shows how they've managed to utterly confuse everyone, including the resistance. Now even people who are 100% against all this madness believe:
  • covid is real (i.e there is a new, additional and different disease)
  • immunity is acquired by getting sick
  • immunity is acquired by the vaccine (but less so)
  • there are variants
  • some of these variants are more or less dangerous than other variants
  • and the list goes on...
Good luck winning the war against the globalists with an army that's THIS confused. The truth is one million times more simple: nothing happened. And if everyone switched off their screens, nobody would think that anything happened.

The only reason anyone in the world believes in the covid is screens. Not actual events that took place in their real life experience. Yeah people got sick and lost their sense of smell, this symptom isn't new and can be found on Google since long before covid.

Proven over and over in the criticism thread, but a perfect summary can be found here (click), laid out step by step. This article follows an impeccable logic which anyone capable of linear and analytical thinking can follow.
 

Redcrosse

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Good luck winning the war against the globalists with an army that's THIS confused. The truth is one million times more simple: nothing happened. And if everyone switched off their screens, nobody would think that anything happened.
Spot on. This is what a few writers like Jon Rappoport, Gary D. Barnett, Andrew Anglin insisted all along: nothing happened but a rebranding of the flu. Unfortunately, Denninger is like the majority of resisters: he pushes back against the lies but still holds to the view that covid is real. He talks about “natural mutation patterns” and herd immunity and so on. Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics is another one like this. He does excellent work about the economic motives behind the scam but still insists there is a real virus and has written pieces criticizing those who deny its existence.

Well, unfortunately we can now see the Armstrong/Denninger approach doesn’t work, because they’re still buying into most of the narrative and swallowing most of the hoax. If you reject say 40% of the lies but leave the other 60% or so intact you’re not very effective as a fighter.
 
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