Coronavirus Lounge thread


Gold Member
Vaccines are big business; they may go down as the single biggest money maker in history... not just in the pharmaceutical industry, but in the entire consumer products sector. It has nothing to do with informing anyone of anything. We know about vaccines. We are also aware of how refreshing Coca-Cola is.

Pointy Elbows

My inner circle of friends and daily work associates are having what appears to be an excessively high rate of illness. All of these ill people are vaxxed, or newborn to vaxxed parents. A confirmed case of return of cancer, which has likely metastasized for one elderly contact. Another elderly contact whose docs are concerned his colon cancer may be back. A 50 yo male that had a heart attack (he's the sickly type though, anyway). A 43 yo woman (hidden alcoholic) now in liver failure, with a recent heart attack, now kidney troubles. Docs are literally considering multiple organ transplants for her (the husband has good money and is afraid his 1M in health care coverage will empty any day now). A friend of her husband that died of the same progression within weeks of liver troubles. Another hidden alcoholic, late 60s woman, that had rapid liver failure and died. Her progression was very fast, but I don't know the whole story.

Most troubling are two infants I know that have kidney problems (either too small or too large with open valves). One of these poor kids has a slightly cleft pallet and a herniated belly button.

All my observations are circumstantial. I know plenty of people that have had no adverse effects and are in fine health. Almost every case I know has a legit "oh, that's why you got cancer/liver failure" response. Still, I can't help but believe this vaxx is an accelerant or somehow exploits vulnerable tissue.


Other Christian
Even though all measures, mandates etc are gone and have been for a year here, I still hear vaxx commercials on the radio when in my car.


Is anyone that hasnt been by now being convinced now?

Just one more fragment of the clown world puzzle
They have no intention of stopping that’s why. Our Government here in the UK have paid for 1 billion doses.

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Other Christian
Even though all measures, mandates etc are gone and have been for a year here, I still hear vaxx commercials on the radio when in my car.


Is anyone that hasnt been by now being convinced now?

Just one more fragment of the clown world puzzle
In Hungary all unvaxed state employees were put on unpaid leave from January 2022 for one year by decree. (And about 10% of the work force is state employee because education and healthcare is run by the state besides administration police and firefighters.) There are not many people still unvaxed and on unpaid leave. Actually I don't know anyone and I can't imagine many people in that status.

Everyone thought that this decree will be relaxed now that we have "won the fight" against Covid. But they just made a new decree that unvaxed people can be fired by the 15th of June. This is just a planned decree yet but I don't see it not voted. Hungarian language article for reference:

This is being done under the radar I have only seen the news on on-topic forums. They use the Ukraine war to mask as many bad news as possible and they let people fear something else now. I see that even the most paranoid people stopped wearing a mask as the propaganda was lowered. I still know people who are getting sick and test positive so "danger" is still there but propaganda is lowered.


Other Christian
This is the guy who was the spokesman of ambulance service (in Hungary) during the "pandemic". He was on TV and billboards 24/7 saying "stay home" and "ask for the vaccine".

Now he is the face of an advertisement for a travel agency saying "This summer do not stay at home! Reserve now!"

I don't know what to think about this. This is a phenomenon with so many layers to unpack.

He answered an interview question: "I was happy to take on the job to advertise travel. During the first wave of the pandemic the "stay at home" message was required. Today thanks to effective epidemic management and retreat of the virus the time has come for physical and mental relaxation."
(Original: "reklámban való szereplésre vonatkozó személyes felkérést örömmel vállaltam. A járvány első hullámának idején a „Maradjanak otthon!” üzenetre volt szükség, ma már azonban az eredményes járványkezelés és a vírus visszahúzódása miatt eljött az idő a testi-lelki kikapcsolódásra." Source: )



Gold Member
The latest from the UK:

From the article:
“Scientists are puzzled as to what is causing the unusual illness, but the main theory is that it is triggered by a group of viruses that normally cause the common cold”
Hmmm...whatever could it be?

I wonder if how many of those kids had the J &J ? Maybe “scientists “ should start there


Gold Member

"In lieu of flowers, don't take the shot."



Other Christian
The upcoming mid-terms election is the reason for extending the fake COVID Pandemic into Year 3.

Of course he won't dare discuss the obesity epidemic which is controllable and results in a huge death toll. I guess this is because encouraging people to eat healthier and exercise more would hurt corporate profit margins.

Over 4 million deaths per year caused by obesity


No forgiveness from me.
Of course he won't dare discuss the obesity epidemic which is controllable and results in a huge death toll. I guess this is because encouraging people to eat healthier and exercise more would hurt corporate profit margins.

Over 4 million deaths per year caused by obesity
America's awful health care system alone kills enough people every year.

Pointy Elbows

I have a 79 yo part time employee (he's a great guy to have around when he's healthy) that was just diagnosed with Tuberculosis. He's 3X jabbed (maybe more) and this is on top of a return of bladder cancer that was cured shortly before CV. He's always been thin, but the poor man is wasting away before our eyes. I take him to his VA appointments, so see him weekly. That's enough time between visits to see the change.

We've discussed TB here, IIRC, so I queried "tuberculosis surge" and brought up this article from our trusted medical professionals at the WHO, dated 14 October 2021:

It appears this report was from 2020 data, but they caution it will increase in 2021-2022. I would believe TB deaths to spike as people avoided treatment/hospitals for too long. I wonder if TB deaths counted in 2021 had been initially reported as CV deaths, only re-coded later to TB. We know they did a bunch of false reporting with CV, so as to induce federal funds delivered to hospitals. I'll be watching this thing develop. As we say, this might be a CV (and also vaxx) feature, not a bug.

Text of article follows:

The COVID-19 pandemic has reversed years of global progress in tackling tuberculosis and for the first time in over a decade, TB deaths have increased, according to the World Health Organization’s 2021 Global TB report.
In 2020, more people died from TB, with far fewer people being diagnosed and treated or provided with TB preventive treatment compared with 2019, and overall spending on essential TB services falling.
The first challenge is disruption in access to TB services and a reduction in resources. In many countries, human, financial and other resources have been reallocated from tackling TB to the COVID-19 response, limiting the availability of essential services.
The second is that people have struggled to seek care in the context of lockdowns.
“This report confirms our fears that the disruption of essential health services due to the pandemic could start to unravel years of progress against tuberculosis,” said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General. “This is alarming news that must serve as a global wake-up call to the urgent need for investments and innovation to close the gaps in diagnosis, treatment and care for the millions of people affected by this ancient but preventable and treatable disease.”
TB services are among many others disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, but the impact on TB has been particularly severe.
For example, approximately, 1.5 million people died from TB in 2020 (including 214 000 among HIV positive people).
The increase in the number of TB deaths occurred mainly in the 30 countries with the highest burden of TB[1]. WHO modelling projections suggest the number of people developing TB and dying from the disease could be much higher in 2021 and 2022.
Challenges with providing and accessing essential TB services have meant that many people with TB were not diagnosed in 2020. The number of people newly diagnosed with TB and those reported to national governments fell from 7.1 million in 2019 to 5.8 million in 2020.
WHO estimates that some 4.1 million people currently suffer from TB but have not been diagnosed with the disease or have not officially reported to national authorities. This figure is up from 2.9 million in 2019.
The countries that contributed most to the global reduction in TB notifications between 2019 and 2020 were India (41%), Indonesia (14%), the Philippines (12%) and China (8%). These and 12 other countries accounted for 93% of the total global drop in notifications.
There was also a reduction in provision of TB preventive treatment. Some 2.8 million people accessed this in 2020, a 21% reduction since 2019. In addition, the number of people treated for drug-resistant TB fell by 15%, from 177 000 in 2019 to 150 000 in 2020, equivalent to only about 1 in 3 of those in need.

Global investment for TB falls​

Funding in the low- and middle-income countries (LMICs) that account for 98% of reported TB cases remains a challenge. Of the total funding available in 2020, 81% came from domestic sources, with the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russian Federation, India, China and South Africa) accounting for 65% of total domestic funding.
The largest bilateral donor is the Government of the United States of America. The biggest international donor is the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria.
The report notes a fall in global spending on TB diagnostic, treatment and prevention services, from US$ 5.8 billion to US$ 5.3 billion, which is less than half of the global target for fully funding the TB response of US$ 13 billion annually by 2022.
Meanwhile, although there is progress in the development of new TB diagnostics, drugs and vaccines, this is constrained by the overall level of R&D investment, which at US$ 0.9 billion in 2019 falls far short of the global target of US$ 2 billion per year.

Global TB targets off track​

Reversals in progress mean that the global TB targets are off track and appear increasingly out of reach, however there are some successes. Globally, the reduction in the number of TB deaths between 2015 and 2020 was only 9.2% - about one quarter of the way to the 2020 milestone of 35%.
Globally, the number of people falling ill with TB each year (relative to population) dropped 11% from 2015 to 2020, just over half-way to the 2020 milestone of 20%.
However, the WHO European Region exceeded the 2020 milestone, with a reduction of 25%. This was mostly driven by the decline in the Russian Federation, where incidence fell by 6% per year between 2010 to 2020. The WHO African Region came close to reaching the milestone, with a reduction of 19%, which reflects impressive reductions of 4–10% per year in South Africa and several other countries in southern Africa, following a peak in the HIV epidemic and the expansion of TB and HIV prevention and care.
“We have just one year left to reach the historic 2022 TB targets committed by Heads of State at the first UN High Level Meeting on TB. The report provides important information and a strong reminder to countries to urgently fast-track their TB responses and save lives,” said Dr Tereza Kasaeva, Director of WHO’s Global TB Programme. “This will be crucial as preparations begin for the 2nd UN High Level Meeting on TB mandated for 2023.”
The report calls on countries to put in place urgent measures to restore access to essential TB services. It further calls for a doubling of investments in TB research and innovation as well as concerted action across the health sector and others to address the social, environmental and economic determinants of TB and its consequences.
The new report features data on disease trends and the response to the epidemic from 197 countries and areas, including 182 of the 194 World Health Organization (WHO) Member States.

Note to the editor​

Since the declaration of COVID-19 as a public health emergency of international concern, WHO’s Global TB Programme has monitored the impact of the pandemic on TB services and provided guidance and support.

Global targets​

In 2014 and 2015, all Member States of WHO and the UN adopted the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) and WHO’s End TB Strategy. The SDGs and End TB Strategy both include targets and milestones for large reductions in TB incidence, TB deaths and costs faced by TB patients and their households.
The WHO End TB Strategy aims for a 90 per cent reduction in TB deaths and an 80 per cent reduction in the TB incidence rate by 2030, compared to the 2015 baseline. Milestones for 2020 include a 20% reduction in the TB incidence rate and a 35% reduction in TB deaths.
The UN Political Declaration on TB also included 4 new targets for the period 2018-2022:
  • Treat 40 million people for TB disease
  • Reach at least 30 million people with TB preventive treatment for a latent TB infection
  • Mobilize at least US$13 billion annually for universal access to TB diagnosis, treatment and care
  • Mobilize at least US$2 billion annually for TB research

TB facts​

Tuberculosis (TB), the second (after COVID- 19) deadliest infectious killer, is caused by bacteria (Mycobacterium tuberculosis) that most often affect the lungs. It can spread when people who are sick with TB expel bacteria into the air – for example, by coughing.
Approximately 90 percent of those who fall sick with TB each year live in 30 countries. Most people who develop the disease are adults –in 2020 - men accounted for 56% of all TB cases, adult women accounted for 33% and children for 11%. Many new cases of TB are attributable to five risk factors: undernutrition, HIV infection, alcohol use disorders, smoking and diabetes.
TB is preventable and curable. About 85% of people who develop TB disease can be successfully treated with a 6-month drug regimen; treatment has the added benefit of curtailing onward transmission of infection.

[1] 30 countries with the highest burden of TB include: Angola, Bangladesh, Brazil, Central African Republic, China, Congo, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Gabon, India, Indonesia, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Thailand, Uganda, United Republic of Tanzania, Viet Nam and Zambia.

Sonali Reddy


Other Christian
Broadway “legend” (a.k.a. aging diva-crone whose career is kept on life-support by theatre-loving homosexuals) Patti Lupone screams and shrieks at a patron for not wearing her mask above her nose at all times:

Of course, the comments are full of “You go, girl” and “Patti is a queen!” sentiment.

Not that I feel too bad for the audience member: she chose to pay good money to watch this caterwauling Broadway harridan strut the boards - she should have known she was stepping into Hive Mind Central.

These “progressive” idiots will probably still be wearing masks 10 years from now (and still “standing with Ukraine” and “protecting trans rights”) assuming they aren’t starving to death or wiped out in a nuclear strike yet.

It’s hard to say which is worse, Lupone’s diva tantrums or the smug smile on the fat, jowly face of fake journalist Lawrence O’Donnell.