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Mrredsquare

Crow
Other Christian
Can you share evidence you have for this claim of "establishment mason" and "controlled opposition"?
Sure - it only takes a quick five minute search to see the evidence.

1. If you've been in the "establishment" for years, you're on their team.
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2. They have to do the masonic signs and gestures - no exceptions.

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Once you realize the deception we're facing it all makes sense.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member
Sure - it only takes a quick five minute search to see the evidence.
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Once you realize the deception we're facing it all makes sense.

Stands to reason.

Whether Tucker Carlson. Ron DeSantis. Sean Hannity.

"They" would not allow a truly rogue / maverick individual to gain power &/or influence.
Anyone in a supposed position of influence / power etc. Is most likely a controlled asset.


"It's a Big Club; & you ain't in it!"


Just two supposed "rivals" of two supposed "opposite" political parties, hanging out as best buds...

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Along with Avenantti & other media whores / Clowns...
 

Steady Hands

Robin
Other Christian
Gold Member
Sure - it only takes a quick five minute search to see the evidence.

1. If you've been in the "establishment" for years, you're on their team.
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2. They have to do the masonic signs and gestures - no exceptions.

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Once you realize the deception we're facing it all makes sense.

Long-term "establishment" politicians can change their tune once exiled. See Mark Latham.
100% of politicians are not all completely evil.
Pictures of hand symbols are not very convincing of anything.

Thus, I am not really convinced by the argument here, or even if I understand the argument.
What is your point exactly?

That everything he does is controlled?
For what purpose precisely?
And by whom exactly - who are the "Establishment?"

Do you know how poor his party's results were at the last election? Can you explain these huge financial losses his party backers (big businesses suffering from closures of ports, those with mining interests etc) suffered from wasting 100+ million on advertising (source) to achieve a lousy election result... how does all this fit into the supposed theory of being Establishment-backed? So now mining companies who are at odds with the government (source) now due to the new age climate scam are somehow all part of the big globalist plan to vaxx and control us all? I don't see it.

Do you have anything that links directly to his content and policies?

One simple search reveals the following from the first page of results online:

"The 19-year-old student is a Hughes local, she's part of a grassroots campaign called "We Are Hughes", and she's determined to have Craig Kelly booted as her local member... "We're spending $24 million on a campaign to tell people to get vaccinated and we've got a taxpayer-funded nong running around telling people not to," Ms Plibersek said."

(source)

"There were several clashes in February last year between Mr Kelly and the Liberal Party after the MP spouted unfounded COVID-19 claims and vaccine misinformation, against expert medical advice. The MP spruiked drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, claiming they were useful in preventing or treating COVID-19. It later saw him permanently banned from Facebook
." (source)
^Yep coming from the trusty SBS this looks like the work of a deep-state psy-op. Right?



"Let there be more courts cases against those who imposed mandates leading to vax-injuries"
^ Hmmmm, promoting court action for vx injuries is surely another sign of... ?

So you see, I don't buy the controlled op thing yet. Yet I am not a donor or "huge fan" given no human is perfect, so feel free to prove me wrong. With respect, do feel free to show me stronger evidence as my mind is open to new information.

Nonetheless, more generally, I don't think speculation like this is helpful without any concrete evidence. Presenting weak evidence of wrong-doing can be counterproductive for several reasons.

"Once you really open your eyes like I have to the real truths about the jooz etc, then you will understand." - to this I would say;
Having secret knowledge alone doesn't necessarily make you smart or helpful. Further it can be unconsciously of service for pride, cynicism or to make excuses for non-action though, especially when you're anonymous online.

Moreover, the modern-day label "Conspiracy theorist" is successful for good reason, and one of the best ways to avoid getting branded by this sin-by-association smear is to present the base case possible for your cause.

Last, I don't see how Christian men of faith can be so defeatist. The common response, "Don't trust anyone, all pollies are corrupt, the system is broken, Dictator Dan got re-elected so just give up" and similar, while having much truth to it, is a resigned, nihilistic attitude that I see a lot here. It also plays right into the globalists hands. "We have 98% vax rate, you are all alone, so you should really just give up and get it hey!"

Food for thought I hope, and all the best.
 

Mrredsquare

Crow
Other Christian
Long-term "establishment" politicians can change their tune once exiled. See Mark Latham.
100% of politicians are not all completely evil.
Pictures of hand symbols are not very convincing of anything.

Thus, I am not really convinced by the argument here, or even if I understand the argument.
What is your point exactly?


That everything he does is controlled?
For what purpose precisely?
And by whom exactly - who are the "Establishment?"

Do you know how poor his party's results were at the last election? Can you explain these huge financial losses his party backers (big businesses suffering from closures of ports, those with mining interests etc) suffered from wasting 100+ million on advertising (source) to achieve a lousy election result... how does all this fit into the supposed theory of being Establishment-backed? So now mining companies who are at odds with the government (source) now due to the new age climate scam are somehow all part of the big globalist plan to vaxx and control us all? I don't see it.

Do you have anything that links directly to his content and policies?

One simple search reveals the following from the first page of results online:

"The 19-year-old student is a Hughes local, she's part of a grassroots campaign called "We Are Hughes", and she's determined to have Craig Kelly booted as her local member... "We're spending $24 million on a campaign to tell people to get vaccinated and we've got a taxpayer-funded nong running around telling people not to," Ms Plibersek said."
(source)

"There were several clashes in February last year between Mr Kelly and the Liberal Party after the MP spouted unfounded COVID-19 claims and vaccine misinformation, against expert medical advice. The MP spruiked drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, claiming they were useful in preventing or treating COVID-19. It later saw him permanently banned from Facebook." (source)
^Yep coming from the trusty SBS this looks like the work of a deep-state psy-op. Right?



"Let there be more courts cases against those who imposed mandates leading to vax-injuries"
^ Hmmmm, promoting court action for vx injuries is surely another sign of... ?

So you see, I don't buy the controlled op thing yet. Yet I am not a donor or "huge fan" given no human is perfect, so feel free to prove me wrong. With respect, do feel free to show me stronger evidence as my mind is open to new information.

Nonetheless, more generally, I don't think speculation like this is helpful without any concrete evidence. Presenting weak evidence of wrong-doing can be counterproductive for several reasons.

"Once you really open your eyes like I have to the real truths about the jooz etc, then you will understand." - to this I would say;
Having secret knowledge alone doesn't necessarily make you smart or helpful. Further it can be unconsciously of service for pride, cynicism or to make excuses for non-action though, especially when you're anonymous online.

Moreover, the modern-day label "Conspiracy theorist" is successful for good reason, and one of the best ways to avoid getting branded by this sin-by-association smear is to present the base case possible for your cause.

Last, I don't see how Christian men of faith can be so defeatist. The common response, "Don't trust anyone, all pollies are corrupt, the system is broken, Dictator Dan got re-elected so just give up" and similar, while having much truth to it, is a resigned, nihilistic attitude that I see a lot here. It also plays right into the globalists hands. "We have 98% vax rate, you are all alone, so you should really just give up and get it hey!"

Food for thought I hope, and all the best.

I will only respond to a few, because it seems like you want an argument or are offended by my post, this wasn't my intention.

The "hand symbols" is how they communicate to one another. Look into Morals and Dogma - Albert Pike or Manly P Hall or other notable "Luciferians".

I have no argument - I made a statement and posted "minimal evidence". For anyone who's awake to the evil they will see it. If the topic interests you, do some of your own research and come to your own conclusions.

I never said I was smart. If you don't like my posts put me on ignore or PM me. My post may help others to look further into how the World works or it may not.

So, now Christian men of faith are now defeatist? How can we be defeated when we have God our side?

Ephesians 5:11 - Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.​


God bless you.
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
Why does it matter? It's a hoax.

Anyone here who believes the entire thing is a hoax, that it doesn't exist at all, apparently has never gotten a bad case of it. Just because it's being used to strip us of liberties doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Geez, do some research! There are legitimate doctors out there like Mercola who even say it's real.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Anyone here who believes the entire thing is a hoax, that it doesn't exist at all, apparently has never gotten a bad case of it. Just because it's being used to strip us of liberties doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Geez, do some research! There are legitimate doctors out there like Mercola who even say it's real.
I think people did get sick with Covid in what was really just the flu, but the flu is inevitable. That's why it doesn't matter to try to figure out details about whether it can linger on surfaces.

I have a moderate cold right now, and I just got over one four weeks ago. It was passed to everyone in my office, and it's possible the same thing went around from person to person and came back to me.

This is the kind of stuff everybody has experienced all their lives with colds and flu. Sometimes you get really sick. Sometimes it's just annoying stuffy nose, sore throat and cough and you keep going with your normal schedule. If a baby or a frail old person gets it, they could die, but it's more their underlying condition that killed them than the common cold. This is just normal life.

Covid is no different, but they turned the whole world upside down. The over reaction and the vaccines and all the rest were a hoax.
 
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Aldebaran

Sparrow
Protestant
Anyone here who believes the entire thing is a hoax, that it doesn't exist at all, apparently has never gotten a bad case of it. Just because it's being used to strip us of liberties doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Geez, do some research! There are legitimate doctors out there like Mercola who even say it's real.

The point is, so what if the virus lingers on surfaces for 1 hour or 2 hours? What does it matter? What is that information useful for?

I know the disease is real, it used to be called "flu" before 2020. Therein lies the hoax.
 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Anyone here who believes the entire thing is a hoax, that it doesn't exist at all, apparently has never gotten a bad case of it. Just because it's being used to strip us of liberties doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Geez, do some research! There are legitimate doctors out there like Mercola who even say it's real.

People get sick all the time for thousands of different reasons. Why would you think any of your recent sicknesses had anything whatsoever to do with a media story invented by the lying global deep-state Satan worshippers? They openly choreographed the entire story to the public beforehand in many ways - Event 201, SPARS document, 2012 Olympic ceremonies, et al.

It's all fake. There is nothing new under the sun, no new diseases. There are an infinite amount of ways to get sick - maybe it was one of those already existent instead of a fictional one penned in late 2019 by demonic, genocidal heretics.
 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
The point is, so what if the virus lingers on surfaces for 1 hour or 2 hours? What does it matter? What is that information useful for?

I would probably eat a sandwich after touching it and not worry in the least. It's possible I might wash my hands before preparing the sandwich but maybe not.

I would continue living as physically healthy as possible while also realizing that sometimes the body needs to cleanse itself of various toxins from time to time. Therefore one shouldn't panic when those times come as the stress from the worry will make you sicker and extend the time necessary for the body to heal itself.
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
I think people did get sick with Covid in what was really just the flu, but the flu is inevitable. That's why it doesn't matter to try to figure out details about whether it can linger on surfaces.

I have a moderate cold right now, and I just got over one four weeks ago. It was passed to everyone in my office, and it's possible the same thing went around from person to person and came back to me.

This is the kind of stuff everybody has experienced all their lives with colds and flu. Sometimes you get really sick. Sometimes it's just annoying stuffy nose, sore throat and cough and you keep going with your normal schedule. If a baby or a frail old person gets it, they could die, but it's more their underlying condition that killed them than the common cold. This is just normal life.

Covid is no different, but they turned the whole world upside down. The over reaction and the vaccines and all the rest were a hoax.

Without going into detail, my symptoms this winter were much worse than any flu I've ever gotten. And my vitamin D levels are completely normal.

Call it a Super Flu if you will. I just don't want to get it again and if I know that it can't last on surfaces for more than a minute or so, it brings me peace of mind that I don't have to worry about washing my hands all the time.
 

Redcrosse

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I think people did get sick with Covid in what was really just the flu, but the flu is inevitable. That's why it doesn't matter to try to figure out details about whether it can linger on surfaces.

I have a moderate cold right now, and I just got over one four weeks ago. It was passed to everyone in my office, and it's possible the same thing went around from person to person and came back to me.

This is the kind of stuff everybody has experienced all their lives with colds and flu. Sometimes you get really sick. Sometimes it's just annoying stuffy nose, sore throat and cough and you keep going with your normal schedule. If a baby or a frail old person gets it, they could die, but it's more their underlying condition that killed them than the common cold. This is just normal life.

Covid is no different, but they turned the whole world upside down. The over reaction and the vaccines and all the rest were a hoax.
The key thing that people don’t realize is that there’s many decades worth of scientific evidence linking severe stresses and unexpected shocks to the experience of disease. I have no doubt that there really was way more sickness during the Covid years, and that countless individuals really did experience novel symptoms - but that just means novel symptoms for them personally, it doesn‘t mean nobody else ever had these symptoms before.

The stress/disease connection is real, and anybody who experienced levels of stress and personal upheaval like nothing before in their lives (which, with Covid, can include the population of the entire planet) had a good chance of being sick in ways and with a severity of symptoms that were new to them.
 
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