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Pole85 said:
I was helping a friend move to a new home yesterday. He had another male show up to help also.

Halfway through the move the other helper says he has to stop. Reveals he's been to the ER for heart issues twice in the last 3 months. Moving a few medium weight cardboard boxes, his heart was racing again.

Decently fit 35 year old male. Is a public school teacher so of course has had all the boosters.

I asked as respectfully as I could even though I knew the answers. No, he had never had a heart problem before.

Here's the kicker. He said he didn't have a heart problem after he got covid the first time early on. Didn't have it immediately after the vaccine.

He got covid 3 months ago, and said it was severe. That's when his heart problems started. He thinks it was the second covid that gave him the heart problem..

He asked how I've handled it and I said I've been lucky enough not to have it. Our mutual friend added "and he's not even vaccinated!". The heart problem guy just got quiet and shrugged and moved to a new subject.
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It's a weird topic. A guy I've met at church in the past year has heart problems he attributes to the vaxx, but he works at a hospital and was required to take the vaxx. Plus, he probably trusted the vaxx initially, as more normies would be expected to do. Now at least he does recognize his problems are likely from the vaxx, not from nonsense reasons like climate change or too much sleep.

You run into situations like this 35 yr old man that you met, and it's hard not to be sympathetic on the one hand, and thinking they should have known better on the other.

I guess I would say that even if they were fooled initially into taking the vaxx, it's hard to excuse them for failing to see the true situation now. If they believe in long Covid, or whatever other excuse the system is pushing, and don't blame the vaxx, then they are willfully ignorant, and are bringing any negative consequences onto their own heads with no one else to blame.
 
Pole85 said:
I was helping a friend move to a new home yesterday. He had another male show up to help also.

Halfway through the move the other helper says he has to stop. Reveals he's been to the ER for heart issues twice in the last 3 months. Moving a few medium weight cardboard boxes, his heart was racing again.

Decently fit 35 year old male. Is a public school teacher so of course has had all the boosters.

I asked as respectfully as I could even though I knew the answers. No, he had never had a heart problem before.

Here's the kicker. He said he didn't have a heart problem after he got covid the first time early on. Didn't have it immediately after the vaccine.

He got covid 3 months ago, and said it was severe. That's when his heart problems started. He thinks it was the second covid that gave him the heart problem..

He asked how I've handled it and I said I've been lucky enough not to have it. Our mutual friend added "and he's not even vaccinated!". The heart problem guy just got quiet and shrugged and moved to a new subject.
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Can't they see it, or do they refuse to see it? I'm a bit stuck inbetween: where do people actually fall? There's a scenario where it's literally not in someone's consciousness to even address the vaxx as possible option. And there's a scenario they have the inkling deep down and refuse to address it, putting it down not letting it come up.

Also, when something's too clear of an option, it's often discarded since we as humans look for a more difficult, intricate explanation. That's why we walk around looking for our glasses when they're on the top of our head for example. It's a weird blindsidedness about human beings, it may be an evolutionary adaptation to broaden the scope of problem solving, but it removes you from dealing with the most straight to the point scenarios of problem solving, contrary to Occam's razor.
 
Pole85 said:
I was helping a friend move to a new home yesterday. He had another male show up to help also.

Halfway through the move the other helper says he has to stop. Reveals he's been to the ER for heart issues twice in the last 3 months. Moving a few medium weight cardboard boxes, his heart was racing again.

Decently fit 35 year old male. Is a public school teacher so of course has had all the boosters.

I asked as respectfully as I could even though I knew the answers. No, he had never had a heart problem before.

Here's the kicker. He said he didn't have a heart problem after he got covid the first time early on. Didn't have it immediately after the vaccine.

He got covid 3 months ago, and said it was severe. That's when his heart problems started. He thinks it was the second covid that gave him the heart problem..

He asked how I've handled it and I said I've been lucky enough not to have it. Our mutual friend added "and he's not even vaccinated!". The heart problem guy just got quiet and shrugged and moved to a new subject.
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I believe that we're going to see an entire generation endure a lifetime of ill health, which will have a catastrophic impact on our society.

 
AC :

A peer-reviewed study found a 74 percent reduction in excess deaths in 10 states with the most intensive ivermectin use over a 30-day period following peak deaths during the pandemic. Remember how many doctors refused to prescribe drugs like this in the middle of a pandemic, how many pharmacies refused to dispense them, and how governments barred their use legally, as everyone was dying? That is how far behind enemy lines we have fallen. That was not stupidity, or leftism, or ideology, or politics. That was a hostile intelligence operation trying to kill you.

 
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On August 5th 2023 a Japanese research team published a pre-print that appears to contain the most important and shocking revelations of the covid era.

Atsuki Tanaka and Takayuki Miyazawa, of Osaka Medical University and Kyoto University, wanted to trace the historical evolution of the omicron variant of SARS-CoV2 by studying viral sequences found "in the wild" and deposited in public databases.

In doing this they found around 100 separate omicron subvariants that could not conceivably have arisen through natural processes. The existence of these variants seems to provide definitive proof of large-scale lab creation and release of covid viruses.

Moreover the variants appear to form comprehensive panels of mutations typical of those used in "reverse genetics" experiments to systematically test the properties of different parts of viruses.

The authors also found exact matches to omicron variants in sequences originating from Puerto Rico which were deposited in databases in 2020 - over a year before the announcement of the discovery of omicron in South Africa.

Coupled with observations of implausibly low numbers of "silent" mutations in SARS-CoV2 variants, Tanaka and Miyazawa argue that all variants emerging since the original Wuhan outbreak are unnatural, and speculate that they represent an experimental program to test determinants of the infectivity and pathogenicity of SARS-CoV2 in the global population.

From paper:
The analysis we have shown here is that the Omicron variants are formed by an entirely new mechanism that cannot be explained by previous biology, and knowing the way how the SARS-CoV-2 variants were formed prompts a reconsideration of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.
 
Sanctus said:
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No fact check? One vaccine or infection lasts a lifetime, that's always been the norm, until just a decade ago. (more profits!!!)

"...Vaccinated participants maintained antivaccinia IgG and neutralizing antibody titers above 3 natural logs essentially indefinitely. The absolute titer of antivaccinia antibody was only slightly higher after multiple vaccinations. Moreover, Baltimore LoIn 97% of the participants, no decrease in vaccinia-specific antibody titers was noted with age over a follow-up period of up to 88 years. Longitudinal Study of Aging participants who survived active smallpox infections in their youth retained antivaccinia antibody titers that were similar to the levels detected in vaccinated subjects..."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Immunity from Smallpox Vaccine Persists for Decades: A Longitudinal Study

The threat of smallpox resulting from bioterrorist action has prompted a reassessment of the level of immunity in current populations.We have examined the magnitude and duration of antiviral antibody immunity conferred by smallpox vaccination in 246 participants ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
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Nordwand said:
An article from the Boston Globe, via The Daily Sceptic, regarding the lack of lockdowns in Sweden. The comments are pretty disturbing - many people are beyond help:

www.bostonglobe.com

Only Sweden had the right COVID-19 response - The Boston Globe

Scandinavia’s largest country avoided lockdowns and mask mandates. The result: fewer excess deaths and much less social damage.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com
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Thanks for posting, but the article is blocked by subscription.
 
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