Coronavirus vaccine thread

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
I’m hoping that the worst case scenario is it’s a last ditch global money grab, since they didn’t get their war they wanted with Trump. This is an easy way to get a high level of compliance - globally instead of nationally, like in war - and then profit off last minute “innovation” for the elites of any given country.

The end game isn’t the vaxx or not. But I sure as hell don’t want this concoction - the end game seems to be the bluetooth tracking. Control. Will let corporations sell and advertise so much more. Imagine being a CEO or Pharma exec and having access to not just how many clicks you give a certain web page, but when, and WHERE you are when you do it, and how often you go to certain businesses.

I'd imagine the lack of control 'They' garnered from "climate action" is another reason for the imposition of the Plandemic.
'They' couldn't force control enough with all the climate nonsense.
Yet a viral pandemic clearly has much better or more immediate results for 'Them'.
 
Everyone who took the jab will be dead in ten years or less, unless there is some underlying agenda to "reformat" them into a transhuman entity along the way. There is a quantum tattoo in this tech, so the marking is there in its infancy.

A key thing I look out for is their belief in God, whether by admission or by their walk in life, and the things they prioritize. Many are gluttonous lecherous boomers who fear death more than anything. Others are clueless, but for their lack of awareness they too risk losing the only thing that matters.
 
Everyone I know is acting like this. So much glee and excitement. These people are lunatics.

Everyone I know who got the shot is bragging like they're an airline passenger who flies once a year to Florida and got bumped to First Class because coach oversold and there were no frequent fliers on board.

Like they're members of some elite club. The smugness is insane.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
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Grow Bag

Kingfisher
If these vaccines are designed in nefarious ways to cause harmful side-effects, how would they keep all the vaccine engineers quiet? I'm friends with a guy who worked on the vaccine at Pfizer. He's a smart guy (albeit a bit of a doofus), and I would be shocked if he knowingly designed a poison pill for the masses. He's also taken the vaccine himself which means he trusts it to an extent.
Good post. Dr Yeadon, who also worked at Pfizer, ponders these questions in his latest talk with James Delingpole. I've posted the link in my latest post in the Great Reset thread.
 
I believe the vaccine is a sham, that there are definitely ulterior motives going on, and that this is heading down a dark path towards mark of the beast territory.

That being said, I am having trouble reconciling my beliefs with logic.

If these vaccines are designed in nefarious ways to cause harmful side-effects, how would they keep all the vaccine engineers quiet? I'm friends with a guy who worked on the vaccine at Pfizer. He's a smart guy (albeit a bit of a doofus), and I would be shocked if he knowingly designed a poison pill for the masses. He's also taken the vaccine himself which means he trusts it to an extent.

My logical mind tells me that taking an experimental vaccine for a virus that won't even harm me is beyond stupid. The risk of the vaccine side-effects far outweigh the risks of contracting COVID. It's clear that taking the vaccine is dumb, and I won't be taking it. I'm willing to die on this hill.

I agree with scorpion's post 100%. I can feel it in my bones that something dark is happening with these vaccines. I can sense it from the relentless propaganda being shoved down our throats about how important it is to take the vaccine. I can't turn on the TV or open social media without getting bombarded with vaccine stories. The media only lies, and they only broadcast things to support their agenda. They clearly want us all getting the jab for some reason.

However, I keep coming back to my original point which is that I don't understand how something nefarious could be designed by normal guys who just happened to end up as engineers at big pharma companies. I definitely expect these vaccines to produce unintended side effects, but shouldn't we have heard from some whisteblowers by now if the vaccines were intentionally unsafe?

I am not sure if I'm experience cognitive dissonance, but I'm feeling confused and wondering if anyone else has gone through a similar process.

It's all need to know.

You could apply the same logic to the Twin Towers.

They're not going to sidle up to your friend and say "Psst! We're planning to add a secret ingredient that will REALLY change the world. Don't tell!".
 

LeoniusD

Pelican

Israel: Why Is All-Cause Mortality Increasing?​


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By early March, Israel had vaccinated about 90% of its 65+ population and about 50% of its entire population. Covid deaths had been decreasing since the end of January, as expected, although not any faster than in some other countries with a very low vaccination rate, such as South Africa.

Concerningly, however, Israel has seen a renewed and continued increase in all-cause mortality since mid-February; in fact, by March 21, Israel reported the highest excess mortality of all countries participating in Euromomo (see figure above). In contrast, many other European countries currently report a post winter wave negative excess mortality.

The cause behind this renewed increase in Israeli all-cause mortality appears to be unclear. According to Israeli newspaper YNet, the director of an Israeli clinic explained that they are currently seeing “a murky wave of heart attacks”. The director believes that this might be due to the “persistent stressful situation” and the “neglect of preventive medical care”.

Although quite a few cases of post-vaccination heart muscle inflammation, heart failure and heart attacks have been reported in Israel since December (see e.g. 1, 2, 3), the hospital director argues that “a connection to heart damage from it has not yet been proven to be significant.”

Case numbers and covid deaths are of course minimal now in Israel. Real deaths are up as the vaccines are more deadly than any virus or covid19. But they won't admit it and the excess real mortality increase will be explained away. Strange heart attacks and heart inflammation - don't worry peasant, it was not the vaccine, it was the asymptomatic covid that you had and did not know about that you had.

As noted before - they could probably kill 1% of the vaccinated with a vaccine and still blame the virus for it. They have done so in the past during the supposed spanish flu.

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Here you see some future spanish flu victims lining up for the 1918-high-tech-vaccine-shot. They did not even have antibiotics then, but the vaccines were great.
 

Mojambo

Pigeon
Everyone I know is acting like this. So much glee and excitement. These people are lunatics.

I'm curious whether these folks are aware of the fact that prior to 2020, people were offered hundreds or thousands of dollars to voluntarily participate in these medical trials. To put food on the table, people at rock bottom needing quick cash were willing to be guinea pigs for big pharma's experiments.

Now, people are lining up in droves, proud to participate in the largest medical trial in history without any compensation whatsoever. Perhaps "without compensation" isn't the best way of framing it — the trial participants are compensated with fake virtue and social credit, and the elite smugness to separate themselves from the "less virtuous" people via vaccine passports.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
I believe the vaccine is a sham, that there are definitely ulterior motives going on, and that this is heading down a dark path towards mark of the beast territory.

That being said, I am having trouble reconciling my beliefs with logic.

If these vaccines are designed in nefarious ways to cause harmful side-effects, how would they keep all the vaccine engineers quiet? I'm friends with a guy who worked on the vaccine at Pfizer. He's a smart guy (albeit a bit of a doofus), and I would be shocked if he knowingly designed a poison pill for the masses. He's also taken the vaccine himself which means he trusts it to an extent.

My logical mind tells me that taking an experimental vaccine for a virus that won't even harm me is beyond stupid. The risk of the vaccine side-effects far outweigh the risks of contracting COVID. It's clear that taking the vaccine is dumb, and I won't be taking it. I'm willing to die on this hill.

However, I keep coming back to my original point which is that I don't understand how something nefarious could be designed by normal guys who just happened to end up as engineers at big pharma companies. I definitely expect these vaccines to produce unintended side effects, but shouldn't we have heard from some whisteblowers by now if the vaccines were intentionally unsafe?

I am not sure if I'm experience cognitive dissonance, but I'm feeling confused and wondering if anyone else has gone through a similar process.

You basically nailed my position. For this forum, I'm actually quite pro-vaccine provided 1) It went through a suitable development and testing regime, 2) It's been used for decades with no wide spread negative consequences, and 3) it's for a disease that is actually likely to do me long term harm. I saw the effects of Polio first hand from my grandfather. So sign me up for that jab. This Covid one? I'll take a pass, since it basically fails on all 3 fronts. Despite all this talk of Covid passports and vaccines, there's one avenue that leaves me with hope, or perhaps naive optimism, and that's that most people are lazy. When (If?) case loads get down to basically zero. All these extra hassles might just go away and people will forget about it, just like they did with Spanish flu, or AIDS (but not like they did with terrorism...). How many people even knew what the Spanish flu was before the start of 2020? Ignorance and sloth are basically the twin pillars of the modern life for a good 2/3rds the people.

Secondly, and on the wider front, I'm also hopeful from the idea that you should never attribute to malice, what you can attribute to incompetence. And our current crop of leaders has that in spades. Small businesses and landlords burn, yet some guy with FU money, and a pt job that made $5k in the last year is entitled to like $30k in Covid relief for lost income? That was not a system designed by a smart man.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
The overwhelming likelihood is that (I've said this in other places, watch the Astra Zeneca french CEO presentation) they want to see if anything happens upon mass mRNA administration (of any coding region, this one the spike protein). It makes scientific sense, so the corporate angle here is to jam through an EUA so they can expand business and into all sorts of mRNA "therapeutics" - and have no liability.

The control part is the nefarious one. Everyone is scurrying both to acquire as much free wealth as possible, by being next to the money printer, before the ship goes down (no one knows when, I say within 3 years). That goes alongside the "great reset" bullshit you see, since that aligns their motives from a governmental/socialist angle. There will be an attempt to get people to trade being "no longer in debt" for no more private property. I don't think it'll work, but it may - the larger issue will likely be that a war comes to further the chaos and create tangent scenarios/problems.
 

ginsu

Woodpecker
Everyone who took the jab will be dead in ten years or less, unless there is some underlying agenda to "reformat" them into a transhuman entity along the way. There is a quantum tattoo in this tech, so the marking is there in its infancy.

A key thing I look out for is their belief in God, whether by admission or by their walk in life, and the things they prioritize. Many are gluttonous lecherous boomers who fear death more than anything. Others are clueless, but for their lack of awareness they too risk losing the only thing that matters.
You mean this is a direct effect of the vaccine or because the elderly are the ones who receive the vaccine first and don't have that many years left on the clock anyway ?
 
You mean this is a direct effect of the vaccine or because the elderly are the ones who receive the vaccine first and don't have that many years left on the clock anyway ?
I cannot make predictions, but this is the intention of these companies is to mutate everyone and cause problems, all roads lead inexorably to massive amounts of people dying off and not burdening "their system" any longer. Older people dying will not be considered suspicious by the foolhardy masses, so it may be that vector first.
 

aynrus

Pelican
Seems like these things started happening here and there...
Waitress fired over vaxx refusal:
I do support the vaccine. I'm not, as they say, an anti-vaxxer
- may be she shouldn't be supporting the genetic therapy poison for hoax virus
 

aynrus

Pelican
The article says that some "lawyer" said that an employer can mandate a vaccine (let me guess that lawyer's political affiliation or who pays them)
This might be true, under condition: of 1) they can show necessity 2) they provide reasonable accommodations for medical exemption/religious objections - but this doesn't apply to experimental vaccine that only received emergency authorization and no full FDA approval.

Given the open questions, when Congress granted the authority to issue EUAs [emergency use authorization], it chose to require that every individual should be allowed to decide for himself or herself whether or not to receive an EUA product. The FDA and CDC apparently consider this fundamental requirement of choice important enough that even during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic they reinforced that policy decision when issuing their guidance related to the Covid-19 vaccines.

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This means that an organization will likely be at odds with federal law if it requires its employees, students or other members to get a Covid-19 vaccine that is being distributed under emergency use authorization.

State law often prohibits retaliating against an employee for refusing to participate in a violation of federal law. Organizations that require Covid-19 vaccination in violation of federal law may face lawsuits under these state laws not only to block the policy but also for damages and attorneys’ fees. Such potentially costly lawsuits can be avoided by refraining from adopting policies that require vaccination or penalize members for choosing not to be vaccinated.
 

This is an absolute MUST listen.

Former Pfizer VP mentions that the additional vaccines ready to go for variants makes absolutely no sense and that they are being pushed through without trials. He can’t wrap his head around how or why this is all happening. He even said he can’t dismiss the possibility of a depopulation agenda (approx min 43)
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher

This is an absolute MUST listen.

Former Pfizer VP mentions that the additional vaccines ready to go for variants makes absolutely no sense and that they are being pushed through without trials. He can’t wrap his head around how or why this is all happening. He even said he can’t dismiss the possibility of a depopulation agenda (approx min 43)
Yes, in his first interview with Delingpole he was just angry, now you can hear the ramifications sinking in and his thoughts are to escape. It was a gradual, year by year process for me, so I pity the guys like Yeadon on the fast-track redpill. Not only that, one could say bright guys like Yeadon are subject to thoughts that must lead to a much deeper conclusion: the spiritual battle is real and heaven or hell are the only exits.

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