Coronavirus vaccine thread

Because the symptoms described are more severe than a normal flu. Yes the stats are manipulated, normal flu has not disappeared obviously.
But normal flue is not usually described as "torture".
This information comes from men I completely trust, spiritual men of the highest quality.

Normal flu is rarely the full blown deal. Actual flu could feel like 'torture' to your average cushioned millennial.

On another note...

Check out the language in this article about how 50% of Americans polled wouldn't take the vax;

“Why anyone would resist is beyond me,” said Michael Pride, who got his COVID-19 vaccine in Bay County.


Resist??

Can you imagine if there was an actual deadly virus out there, with ambulances all-day, bodies in the street and zombies roaming around... and people were resisting the antidote?

It's hilarious...

How can this not make the most hardened normie raise an eyebrow?))

 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
That makes me feel better, because I'm having trouble getting through to family. I talk them out of getting the vaccine then one week later they ask, "Do you think I should get the vaccine?" This sometimes happens every time I see them. Since they follow the mainstream news, they are one fearmongering story away from flip-flopping. Their emotions are being played like a fiddle. I have one relative who already had the infection and is actually considering the vaccine in spite of my constant warnings.

It's not a coincidence that my struggles involve people with no God in their lives. Your facts are like a dose of soma that alleviates their fear for a few days, but since you didn't address the root cause, it will simply come back. I will keep trying, but at this point I know I'm wasting my breath. Unless someone has faith or is scientifically inclined, their emotions rule them, and they will eventually get the vaccine, either right now because they are scared of dying or within a year because they don't want to be discomforted by a loss of societal privileges. May God have mercy on them.
I am sorry to hear that, Roosh. Based on my circle of family and friends, believing in god is not as much of a factor as believing to the MSN.

Many churches are into this, and even promote the vaccine. There was a Psychologist that came out at the German Corona Ausschuss and pointed out the fingerprints of manipulative languages in all MSN articles. The Journalists Codex regarding reporting on medical matters has been breached. There was even a leaked paper, where the Government ordered a report from the Robert Koch institute, that should use graphic and disturbing language. Children should see their grandparents suffocate and die, as a result of not wearing a mask in kindergarten.

A large chunk of the population is in a mass hypnosis, seeing only the vaxx as their saviour. Please point them out, that in the UK most of the people have been vaxxed, all the population in danger has been vaxxed, and yet, freedoms are not restored.
 

r3d

Sparrow
Unbelievable. Imagine having worked in a field for decades and being considered a rock-solid expert but your own family won't listen to you. (Referring to Dr. Yeadon)

That gives me quite a bit of relief, because it really shows that there is absolutely _nothing_ I can do. Or at least expect.

Also shows how divided and estranged families are today. They rather listen to a guy on TV who is in bed with the people who try to sell them something, than a family member who gains nothing from their advice.

Decades ago it would've been unthinkable for families to go different routes on matters like this. Even if members had different opinions there would've been night-long discussions about it until the matter was settled. Now it's all "I won't hear from your crazy talk. The experts know best. Now let me watch 'the price is right' while I scroll through boomer humor on facebook."
 

LeoniusD

Pelican
That makes me feel better, because I'm having trouble getting through to family. I talk them out of getting the vaccine then one week later they ask, "Do you think I should get the vaccine?" This sometimes happens every time I see them. Since they follow the mainstream news, they are one fearmongering story away from flip-flopping. Their emotions are being played like a fiddle. I have one relative who already had the infection and is actually considering the vaccine in spite of my constant warnings.

It's not a coincidence that my struggles involve people with no God in their lives. Your facts are like a dose of soma that alleviates their fear for a few days, but since you didn't address the root cause, it will simply come back. I will keep trying, but at this point I know I'm wasting my breath. Unless someone has faith or is scientifically inclined, their emotions rule them, and they will eventually get the vaccine, either right now because they are scared of dying or within a year because they don't want to be discomforted by a loss of societal privileges. May God have mercy on them.
Yes - it also consoled me after hearing that Dr. Yeardon's family and friends would not listen to him. If they don't listen to a lead corporate medical adivsor and scientist, then why should people listen to me or any other dissenting doctor? I am sure that Prof Dr. Ioannidis from Stanford - one of the top 5 world leading epidemiologists - can tell the same stories.

And I experienced the very same thing - talking to them, they listening and even somewhat agreeing, then suddenly 2 weeks later they say to me that things have changed somehow, because this one person they know got severely sick (after a normal flu vaccine) and got tested positive. Thus everything the TV told them must be true! It's a clever hoax this time, because in any given year people do get sick - some severely. It reinforces everything and they are surrounded by constant mass hysteria on the telly.

Personally I surrender their decision to God. I cannot change their decision, I love them regardless of their choice. I even said to my aunt who said that she signed up for the vaccine - 'You know I support you no matter what you do. However I can help you personally if you ever seem as if you contract covid - I will walk right into your covid-infected room and give you working real medicine. But if you happen to experience one of the frequent side-effects after the vaccine, then I am not able to help you at all.' Then I give them the freedom to act as they deem fit surrendering everything to God. I hope she does not go through with the vaxx since no one forces her - just her doctor scaring her that she should take it because of her allergies - which is funnily enough a good reason to not take the vaxx, but the doc does not know anything.

As for who breaks through the brainwashing - I agree. On the one side it's the highly religious and spiritual - those who have a strong connection to God and use their intuition or prayer to assess the reality of our world. Or it's people who already doubted the entire world power, are aware of many cons, know about the power-structure and can put 2 and 2 together - aka why an overpopulation-obsessed billionaire should be concerned with more 81 year olds dying 'prematurely'. Though certainly a better connection to God helps - or even a strong belief in a divine guidance that is benevolent and beyond this materialistic power struggle.
 
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BillMcNeal

Sparrow
That makes me feel better, because I'm having trouble getting through to family. I talk them out of getting the vaccine then one week later they ask, "Do you think I should get the vaccine?" This sometimes happens every time I see them. Since they follow the mainstream news, they are one fearmongering story away from flip-flopping. Their emotions are being played like a fiddle. I have one relative who already had the infection and is actually considering the vaccine in spite of my constant warnings.

It's not a coincidence that my struggles involve people with no God in their lives. Your facts are like a dose of soma that alleviates their fear for a few days, but since you didn't address the root cause, it will simply come back. I will keep trying, but at this point I know I'm wasting my breath. Unless someone has faith or is scientifically inclined, their emotions rule them, and they will eventually get the vaccine, either right now because they are scared of dying or within a year because they don't want to be discomforted by a loss of societal privileges. May God have mercy on them.
Right. I pray God gives you the strength to handle the conversation when they tell you they just got the first dose, because it's almost certainly coming. But by that point I fear you'll be on the defensive from the same loved ones for not getting the shot, just like many of us on here are.

“Why anyone would resist is beyond me,” said Michael Pride, who got his COVID-19 vaccine in Bay County.
Michael PRIDE. We all know pride goeth before a fall.
 
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STG

Woodpecker

LeoniusD

Pelican
He came to the company in 2018 and was still highly active in 2019. Whatever took him down might have started in 2020 or even 2021 since they are talking about a quick immune deficiency disease. He could have been a true believer himself getting a yearly flu shot. One more did the trick after which the body could no longer deal with it - or it was the cumulative shots followed by the covid shot. Many many immune deficiency diseases - perhaps all of them - are due to various poisons. But heavy metal poisoning takes a long time to manifest - vaccines do it quickly. The only other weird causes of such diseases that I read about are inbreeding, but that manifests much much sooner.

The idea that our perfectly created bodies which are not malnourished, are relatively well-fed and nourished are then coming down with weird diseases like that is frankly unheard of. I am 100% certain that future generations will find out that humanity poisoned itself needlessly by toxic drugs, toxic food additives, pesticides - also all vaccinations. They will see that all those things are akin to mercury, lead-drugs and ointments used up until the early 20th century! They were pure poison. Heck - even I remember some skin creams being used in the early 1990s that had mercury in them! That happens when humanity finally managed to establish some scientific method in the early 20th century, but that method got instantly taken over and perverted by the world rulers who don't want to see us too healthy or too smart for our own good.
 

BillMcNeal

Sparrow
Has anybody got a reputable study link of this to show to normies?
There's this - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102

"The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable. However, presymptomatic transmission does occur, with some studies reporting the timing of peak infectiousness at approximately the period of symptom onset."

So it's tricky. According to the literature, asymptomatic doesn't happen much, but presymptomatic does.
 
That seemed to put an end to that one guy lol.
If you believe these virus tales yourself you're already a victim of Great Reset. (I'm having doubts there's sincere belief here, though, and probably other things going on, no doubt this forum can be targeted by propagandists, that's how they operate).

But if you really believe those laughable tales....enjoy not leaving the house: there's dangerous flu and common cold out there (definitely need a mask and vaxx), also some biting dogs, fast drivers and who knows what else, it's safer at home.
 

STG

Woodpecker
There's this - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102

"The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable. However, presymptomatic transmission does occur, with some studies reporting the timing of peak infectiousness at approximately the period of symptom onset."

So it's tricky. According to the literature, asymptomatic doesn't happen much, but presymptomatic does.
I don't believe in asymptomatic transmission.

SARS-COV2 is an RNA virus, meaning it needs human cells to multiply in. When a virus infects and multiplies in human cells the immune system responds causing symptoms of illness. For you to be ill enough where an RNA virus is multiplying in you with no immune response and no symptoms of illness, you already would have had to be severely ill like an AIDs patient. You would not be walking around healthy with no symptoms and "spreading virus".

The "asymptomatic transmission" pushed by the powers that be is fraud.

https://phys.org/news/2020-04-coronavirus-genetic-material.html

When someone becomes infected with the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, the pathogen proliferates rapidly in the cells of the infected person. To do so, the virus has to multiply its genetic material, which consists of a single long RNA strand.

If you are someone who comes into contact with an RNA virus but never has symptoms, your immune system was strong enough to eliminate the virus. You are no threat to other people because the virus is not in your cells multiplying.
 

Enoch

Ostrich
Out of curiousity, is anyone here aware of what Native Americans think about Covid lockdowns and the vaccine?
Native American reservations are not subject to state laws in general and were not shut down. In my state that meant that their Casinos and other businesses never closed. Of course this is hilarious given the DEADLIEST VIRUS EVERRRRRRR status.

As far as their perspective on the whole thing, don't know.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Woodpecker
Native American reservations are not subject to state laws in general and were not shut down. In my state that meant that their Casinos and other businesses never closed. Of course this is hilarious given the DEADLIEST VIRUS EVERRRRRRR status.

As far as their perspective on the whole thing, don't know.
I understand that Natives hate the federal government, and don’t trust the lockdowns, but it’s hard for me to get data on that, since the news only reports woke stuff on the Native folk.
 

EvanWilson

Kingfisher
Gold Member
My parents, 92 and 82, have been coerced in taking the vaccine. I tried talking them out of it, but they are unwilling to listen to me.

Please pray for my family.
At their ages, even if there are long term problems with the shots, it probably would not matter because of their age. (i.e. If long term problems took 10 or 20 years to even show up, they would be in their early 100s.)
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Native American reservations are not subject to state laws in general and were not shut down. In my state that meant that their Casinos and other businesses never closed. Of course this is hilarious given the DEADLIEST VIRUS EVERRRRRRR status.

As far as their perspective on the whole thing, don't know.
Which state is that?
Reservations were subject to particularly harsh shutdowns and curfews in New Mexico (harsher than general population), it's still happening.
Also, in South Dakota there was a stand off as reservations wanted shut down (and did setup own checkpoints) but SD state did not, SD state came to threatening lawsuit against the tribes to prevent them from doing lockdowns.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Woodpecker
Which state is that?
Reservations were subject to particularly harsh shutdowns and curfews in New Mexico (harsher than general population), it's still happening.
Also, in South Dakota there was a stand off as reservations wanted shut down (and did setup own checkpoints) but SD state did not, SD state came to threatening lawsuit against the tribes to prevent them from doing lockdowns.
Interesting. I know a number of reservations have corrupt leadership, so I wonder whether that correlates with lockdown measures on reservations.
 
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