Coronavirus vaccine thread

Enoch

Ostrich
Which state is that?
Reservations were subject to particularly harsh shutdowns and curfews in New Mexico (harsher than general population), it's still happening.
Also, in South Dakota there was a stand off as reservations wanted shut down (and did setup own checkpoints) but SD state did not, SD state came to threatening lawsuit against the tribes to prevent them from doing lockdowns.
Michigan - the non Indian casinos were closed so they were the only players in the game.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Michigan - the non Indian casinos were closed so they were the only players in the game.
I see. Michigan has small tribal lands and most tribes tried to keep their casinos open.
In the West, on big reservations, there was a different attitude of no-outsiders allowed (still like that in some) and some locking the locals down really hard, checkpoints setup, etc. One couple was banned from reservation for good - the woman, who was non-member of the tribe, lived and taught at school there, made a trip to a medical procedure appointment outside the res (of course, as medical services are close to non-existent locally), came back and they declared her positive for the hoax - then she and her husband were expelled from reservation, their home boarded and "disinfected". They also refused her basic medical aid at tribal clinic.
 
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Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
We can safely say if there are a significant number of people affected by the vax then based on current numbers it would mean the end of several countries, including the US and UK.
The US and UK are demographically at an irreversible slide into obscurity.
This is already baked into the cake, even if immigration is brought to 0% tomorrow.
Nonwhite births surpassed white births years ago of Americans in America.

There is no way, save some Deus Ex Machina action or Weimar level rebellion, that this can possibly be reversed.
So the vaccine would only accelerate the inevitable. In other words, this may be a true observation but it's not particularly meaningful.
 

Sisyphus

Woodpecker
The pandemic and the virus are a hoax, deliberately and meticulously planned and executed.
There was no virus from the start, it was all hugely exaggerated government reaction to an existant virus (common flu) in tandem with all out panic and hysteria disseminated by the bought and corrupt mass media.

Bingo. Recently I thought to myself about how a benevolent government that actually cares about the well-being of its citizens would have handled this "crisis." Some time in December 2019 or so they would have said "we're aware of the reports of this novel virus. At this time we don't believe there's any cause for concern, but if you want to take normal precautions it's always a good idea to practice good hygiene." Then they would have allocated appropriate funding to conduct several independent studies at which point they would have found overwhelming evidence that there's no need to make any major adjustments. This all would have and should have ended then.

Instead they took the exact steps that would need to be taken to whip the populace into a terrified and desperate panic, of course with the aid of the media (really just a wing of the government), and did so quite successfully. There was never any logic - it was just a series of reactionary and wildly exaggerated actions and proclamations. In retrospect, there's no other explanation aside from the entire thing being deliberate. The extent of the weakness, failure in leadership, and utter incompetence could not possibly have been achieved organically even by the most bumbling of organizations.

People want to say that it's Trump's fault, he killed 500,000 people proving that he's literally Hitler, etc. But it would have been no different under an Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, or whatever administration. The individual occupying the office of the president has no say in matters like this. The days when the character of a nation could be guided by an individual politician whose conviction and force of will could elevate a civilization to greatness are long behind us. How long has it been since true statecraft was practiced in the West and the American president was something other than a figurehead keeping the ones wielding the true power out of sight? 100 years? More?

What has happened in the past 15 months has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt what most of us here already knew or have come to realize. There is no meaningful separation between government, industry, media, and banking. What we observe are just extensions of one evil multi-headed beast whose only goal is to exploit as much as necessary in order to achieve its greedy and lustful aims. The coronavirus is literally the crown of this beast whose shackles have now been released and who can now tear its way through the world unfettered.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Nightmarish propaganda article with computer-generated images, showing how human cells turn into alien life form Frankenstein cells growing spike proteins on their surface, after Astra-Zeneca injections (the one that had caused many brain blood clots).

Immune system attacks protein spikes - in a natural situation it's supposed to attack the entire virus too, but in this case the spikes are attached to a human cell - what will follow is no-brainer (autoimmune illness).

They're creating a new mutant life form, as human cells grow parts they're not supposed to.

May be the idea of vaxx passport isn't so bad....only needs to be renamed "mutant passport", to know who took the mark.



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STG

Woodpecker
Right the problem is that apparently pre-symptomatic transmission does exist, at least in that literature, and good luck convincing the normies that there's any difference.
What makes SARS-COV2 different then any other coronavirus?

Dr. Flip Flop even said in March 2020 that masks were unnecessary and do not provide protection.


Dr. Flip Flop has been America's "top doctor" for 50 years, wouldn't he know from spending his life in medicine that RNA viruses do not magically transmit without symptoms?

Is SARS-COV2 the only RNA virus that is able to transmit without symptoms? Why?

When did this stop becoming about science and start becoming a political discussion?
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
In Hungary this is the system. There are hospitals or parts of hospitals allocated for Covid. That staff is severely overworked and there are many patient deaths there (This is information that I got from somewhat trustable source and this is the official narrative as well.). And other branches work as normal they don't see Covid cases.
In the US you won't see hospitals turning away covid patients (well, they do that at my hospital, but they send them to consolidate at another nearby hospital operated by the same owners) because of the financial incentives.

It is extremely profitable to treat covid patients as on top of increased Medicare payments (the federal insurance program is the biggest single health care player, and obviously most of the covid sick are of retirement age where Medicare applies), there are bonuses paid for positive tests and, most sickeningly of all, bonuses paid for respirator usage and even covid death. On top of all that, elective medical treatments (I guess like plastic surgery, cataracts, vericose veins etc.) have stopped, so covid patients are almost the only source of income at hospitals. And if there's one solid trend in America it's whatever is most profitable is what is done.
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
A lot of them now believe what a majority of this forum believes - we destroyed society over the flu.

What I do believe:
1) COVID was made in a lab to confuse the hell out of scientists and doctors who study it
2) It's about as harmful as the regular flu
3) It was used politically and for control - get orange man out of office, get people terrified and vaccinated etc
4) Planned to be released anywhere from ~2015-2022
What rationale or evidence is there to conclude covid was created in a lab?
It is largely irrelevant, as it really doesn't change the outcome at all, other than there would be a handful of evil people involved who made that decision, but at the end of the day, whether we got a slightly more contagious flu this year, or a mad scientist created it, doesn't really matter.

The true evil is in all the lockdowns, the Orwellian "Social Distancing", the faceless masks, the disturbing and scientifically illogical vaccine claims, the destruction of small business, the fear, the curfews, the travel bans, etc. All of this is the same whether a mad scientist kicked it off or evil Bill Gates said 2021 is the year we will exagerate the flu. In a way it's even more evil if it were spontaneous, as a group taking advantage of an illness to run this evil scheme is somehow worse than a straightforward bad guy with a plan to accomplish something evil running a distraction scheme with a flu lockdown in order to accomplish his evil goal, like the plot out of a James Bond or Die Hard film.

It's like debating whether the Patriot Act was intentionally kicked off with a false flag event, or was just written and ready to go when the next crisis happened, as the PNAC documents gleefully anticipated, or whether the US government directly caused 9-11 through their agent Tim Osmond in a weird "run practice drills on the same day the actual attack happens" scenario or it indirectly caused 9-11 by enraging Afghans and Saudis by defiling their holy lands and forcing globohomo down their throats--at the end of the day it's the same ultimate cause, and the same actors causing it, just in different ways, but I'm still curious why one makes this conclusion over another.

Out of curiousity, is anyone here aware of what Native Americans think about Covid lockdowns and the vaccine?
I'm also curious. Amish are not concerned in the least. I don't know what they think specifically, but i was around a crowd in PA recently and there were hundreds of masked people in public but not a single one among the Amish.
 
What rationale or evidence is there to conclude covid was created in a lab?
It is largely irrelevant, as it really doesn't change the outcome at all, other than there would be a handful of evil people involved who made that decision, but at the end of the day, whether we got a slightly more contagious flu this year, or a mad scientist created it, doesn't really matter.

The true evil is in all the lockdowns, the Orwellian "Social Distancing", the faceless masks, the disturbing and scientifically illogical vaccine claims, the destruction of small business, the fear, the curfews, the travel bans, etc. All of this is the same whether a mad scientist kicked it off or evil Bill Gates said 2021 is the year we will exagerate the flu. In a way it's even more evil if it were spontaneous, as a group taking advantage of an illness to run this evil scheme is somehow worse than a straightforward bad guy with a plan to accomplish something evil running a distraction scheme with a flu lockdown in order to accomplish his evil goal, like the plot out of a James Bond or Die Hard film.

It's like debating whether the Patriot Act was intentionally kicked off with a false flag event, or was just written and ready to go when the next crisis happened, as the PNAC documents gleefully anticipated, or whether the US government directly caused 9-11 through their agent Tim Osmond in a weird "run practice drills on the same day the actual attack happens" scenario or it indirectly caused 9-11 by enraging Afghans and Saudis by defiling their holy lands and forcing globohomo down their throats--at the end of the day it's the same ultimate cause, and the same actors causing it, just in different ways, but I'm still curious why one makes this conclusion over another.


I'm also curious. Amish are not concerned in the least. I don't know what they think specifically, but i was around a crowd in PA recently and there were hundreds of masked people in public but not a single one among the Amish.
Because they trust in god.
 
What is Sweden's stance on the vaccines? They've been super chill in terms of virus propaganda and lockdowns, despite being way on the left politically
Mass vaccinations. As everything is state run it will be an easy thing. Schools, homes for the elderly, kindergartens etc.
at least in my old home time the hospitals call people up and say that it is their turn to get the shot. My parents took it a couple of weeks ago.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
The US and UK are demographically at an irreversible slide into obscurity.
This is already baked into the cake, even if immigration is brought to 0% tomorrow.
Nonwhite births surpassed white births years ago of Americans in America.

There is no way, save some Deus Ex Machina action or Weimar level rebellion, that this can possibly be reversed.
So the vaccine would only accelerate the inevitable. In other words, this may be a true observation but it's not particularly meaningful.

You totally missed my point. I wasnt aiming it at demographics but the population as a whole.

Blacks, whites, pakistani and other races make up the UK. If the numbers vaccinated turn into some health crisis that escalates and becomes out of control it would be the end of the nation, not the traditional white British/English demography.

We wont see simple court cases and scandals but huge social destruction and eventual decline into violence. The state apparatus would fail.
 

DanielH

Pelican
My dad is overseas. He was vaccinated about 6 weeks ago. He was about to come back home, and he needed to get a covid test apparently to do so. He tested positive. So now he is being forced to quarantine for 2 weeks. Hopefully they let him test again and it turns out negative.
They're forcing him to wait a week in the hotel concentration camp before testing again. Crazy to think that a false positive can put you in covid prison for at least a week.
 
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