Coronavirus vaccine thread

The narrative right now in the UK is getting pubs, bars, restaurants and other public spaces open for business with Covid rules implemented. The weather has been nice since outside dining/pub gardens were opened and large crowds were out and about.

Vaccine passports cannot be implemented like this I would assume as it would single out too many. Another lockdown is coming to make it clear to people this isn't going away without state control over their lives.

Why not? Aren't pubs/restaurants open for outside only?

They'll just make the unvaxxed stand outside in a designated pen.

Won't be fun in January (assuming anything's open at all)
 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Nursing mothers can pass on any drug they are taking to their babies.


“But there's very little data on whether the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective during pregnancy, because people who are pregnant or breastfeeding weren't included in the initial clinical trials.”

“Now, researchers are beginning to provide some answers. A study published recently in The American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology shows the vaccines are not only safe and effective for pregnant and breastfeeding women, they may also offer some protection for their babies.

“Though limited — with a sample size of 131 — the study is the largest to date on the topic. Lead author Dr. Kathryn Gray, maternal fetal medicine specialist at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, says people were eager to take part.”




With only 131 participants they labeled this “safe and effective”. What a joke.
 

“But there's very little data on whether the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective during pregnancy, because people who are pregnant or breastfeeding weren't included in the initial clinical trials.”

“Now, researchers are beginning to provide some answers. A study published recently in The American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology shows the vaccines are not only safe and effective for pregnant and breastfeeding women, they may also offer some protection for their babies.

“Though limited — with a sample size of 131 — the study is the largest to date on the topic. Lead author Dr. Kathryn Gray, maternal fetal medicine specialist at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, says people were eager to take part.”




With only 131 participants they labeled this “safe and effective”. What a joke.
(((hand rubbing intensifies)))

 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher

Pfizer and Moderna both declined to cooperate with J&J on a joint study to review blood clot risks.
 

LeoniusD

Pelican
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'Take the shot! Take the shot! Yeah! Oh...... thank you for your sacrifice fellow NPC. You are a hero of medical science.'

As for the breastfeeding mothers damaging their children - no surprise. Japan stopped covid vaccinated from giving blood donations. That tells you really all you need to know.

I also wonder about the real death numbers in some countries - whether they will do their utmost to spread them out, report them later, so that it is less apparent that the vaccines killed so many people. They are unlikely to be able to suppress them all, but they can postpone reporting. Obviously I am talking about real deaths and not reported covid deaths, because they will make the covid deaths either 1% of total deaths or 80% of total deaths depending on what stage of the agenda they are in (Israel 1% now while vaccine-hesitent countries sometimes 80% of all deaths being ascribed to covid).
 
My brother is telling me that vaccination reduces community transmission and that is his main reason for taking it. Is this even true?
The vax is more dangerous than covid for people under 75 that have no co-morbidities.


Your brother has no understanding of mathematics, statistics and logic.
 
My brother is telling me that vaccination reduces community transmission and that is his main reason for taking it. Is this even true?

I think the opposite is true... the vaccinated will become mutation machines spreading increasingly dangerous variants.

How old is you bro anyway?

What, he's bought the whole 'protect the elderly' lie?

Who cares if that was even true?... not the elderly part, but the 'community transmission'?... of a virus with a mortality rate that matches the flu?

I'm relentlessly sending my brother quotes and stuff... he get's angry about it... we'll likely fall out about it, but if he's dumb enough to let his family take the poison, I won't be carrying guilt.

[Edit: SMS just in...

'... In the meantime, I'm asking again: leave out the covid politics. Thanks.'

What can you do?

Reply; 'You mean the science? OK.]
 
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HighTower

Robin
Orthodox
I get kick out of this whole narrative. Yes airline companies and pubs are going to spearhead the vaccine drive lol. The part that I find even more funny is when these businesses run at half the revenue capacity from cutting themselves off from half their customer base they will have to double the price for the stupid who take the jab. It's a win win in my book as I'm betting all conversations, if I was let into a bar unvaccinated, would be about why I refuse to take a vaccine to stop killing their grandma.

Seems amazon is smart enough to position itself to take the unvaccinated money the rest are just stupid pawns. Probably even take money from staunch holocaust deniers which I am sure does not exist with current law...
 

STG

Woodpecker

HighTower

Robin
Orthodox
Big Tech is in cahoots with Big Pharma always grab hard copies for yourself these things will be scrubbed from everywhere on the internet eventually.
We must start considering a life without the use of the internet. I came into a world without digital data and can easily do without it.

The third industrial revolution that isn't really an IR so go figure. Start collecting books now while they are cheap as once you have a book they can't go back in and edit for convenience.
 
The whole story of getting vaccinated to go back to the pubs irks me especially.

"Gotta have that experimental gene therapy with unknown long term consequences so I don't catch a virus with 99,98% survival rate, in order to go back to my hobby of voluntarily ingesting toxins with well studied negative long term consequences."

Alcohol kills 3 million and smoking 7 million a year globally.
It makes me sad that a fellow German would say that. But no wonder, you are a Protestant ;)
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Why not? Aren't pubs/restaurants open for outside only?

They'll just make the unvaxxed stand outside in a designated pen.

Won't be fun in January (assuming anything's open at all)

There is not enough FUD to push it over the line. People are going to resist it and point to low numbers of cases and lower deaths. Why are we still locked down when they said vaccines were the way out? People are asking too many questions.

They will also stick to corona tests paperwork to go to Spain or other holiday destinations.
 
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