Coronavirus vaccine thread

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member
How about telling us who it is we're listening to?
I have no idea who it is. Let's check with the sign language interpreter:

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Well, that didn't help either.
 

Dilated

Woodpecker
So my research has indicated it can be a bit risky outside cities in Latin America (Panama having issues with roving break-in gangs of kids who aren't prosecuted until they're 18), people having to put up barbed wire, fences. Lots of crime bubbles around expat areas.

My instinct of LA as a backup plan only seems about right.

If you’re a person that likes order and efficiency you’ll hate it in LatAm. They are literally perfectly incompetent at everything. Even the simplest things are breathtakingly difficult.

The COVID Stasi are in full effect in LatAm now. Was in Bogota last weekend and completely closed down. No dine-in at restaurants. Can’t even buy a beer (ley seca).

Ecuador completely closing down this weekend. People are ordered to stay in their homes 8pm tonight through Monday morning. Anyone (besides essential workers) caught outside risks a 1-3 year prison term.
 

aynrus

Pelican
So my research has indicated it can be a bit risky outside cities in Latin America (Panama having issues with roving break-in gangs of kids who aren't prosecuted until they're 18), people having to put up barbed wire, fences. Lots of crime bubbles around expat areas.

My instinct of LA as a backup plan only seems about right.
I'd say depends on a region, it's a huge land area. In rural Southern Paraguay - a lot of Germans, Russian-Germans, Mennonites, escaped Nazis descendants, some Ukrainians, Russians, there're whole colonies. People live without bars on windows on large properties, without armed guards or barbwire. Unlike most other LatAm countries Paraguay has gun rights.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Those Frenchies are wise to avoid the Oxford chimp hybrid thing :

AstraZeneca blood clots: Three more cases thought linked to vaccine

Authorities are investigating three more cases of a rare blood clotting disorder thought to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration has reviewed suspected thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) in an 80-year-old Victorian man, a 35-year-old NSW woman and a 49-year-old Queensland man.
The 80-year-old man is the first Australian case of TTS in a vaccine recipient older than 50.
All three patients are in a stable condition and recovering.

“The VSIG [Vaccine Safety Investigation Group] concluded that all three of the cases were likely linked to vaccination,” the TGA said in a statement late on Friday.


 
This is not really a far fetched concept with what we know so far.

This just gets darker and darker. The vaxxed are shedding something, these doctors seem to think its the synthetic spike protein that the RNA has programed the DNA to produce. So being around the vaxxed also gets us sick, but is it permanent change for the non-vaxxed? (that does not seem likely).

 
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If you’re a person that likes order and efficiency you’ll hate it in LatAm. They are literally perfectly incompetent at everything. Even the simplest things are breathtakingly difficult.

The COVID Stasi are in full effect in LatAm now. Was in Bogota last weekend and completely closed down. No dine-in at restaurants. Can’t even buy a beer (ley seca).

Ecuador completely closing down this weekend. People are ordered to stay in their homes 8pm tonight through Monday morning. Anyone (besides essential workers) caught outside risks a 1-3 year prison term.

I wouldn't call them incompetent at everything but you are mostly right, many things in LatAM don't work. But in urban settings, herd mentality in many countries has prevailed and mask mandates are everywhere in those places.

The hopes are in the rural areas, if you have an estate and can defend it, you are all set, except if a communist dictatorship comes your way...

By the way, that incompetence may be the only thing that can save lives at this point in those lands. I shudder to imagine living in a dictatorship with German or American efficiency....
 
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GuitarVH

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
After talking with the doctor on the phone I ended up taking my mom to the Emergency Room. She had a bronchoscopy. They scraped the inside of her lungs to check for infection and drained some fluid. She is on an IV antibiotic and steroid. Hopefully she will be able to come home this weekend. I am afraid she will now have to be on supplemental oxygen permanently and will be much more susceptible to other respiratory infections and ailments. My sister asked the doctor if there was any chance that this was an adverse reaction to the jab and he said no. She pushed him on it pretty hard according to my mom. Thanks for the well wishes and prayers from everyone.

CP

The medical establishment will deny the connection out of ignorance or malice as more people get chronic ailments and die due to the non-vaccine injection. Not good.
 

Dilated

Woodpecker
I wouldn't call them incompetent at everything but you are mostly right, many things in LatAM don't work. But in urban settings, herd mentality in many countries has prevailed and mask mandates are everywhere in those places.

The hopes are in the rural areas, if you have an estate and can defend it, you are all set, except if a communist dictatorship comes your way...

There’s probably some competency somewhere here but I stopped searching after a registered nurse told me that my Gi issues were from eating dinner outside without a coat and not from the decidedly super rare steak......
 

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member
37 year old UK mother said she look like the "Elephant Man" when she suffered an allergic reaction to an AZ vaccine. Here's the dumb part: she encourage "Britons to 'trust the science' and continue to get the jabs after making a full recovery".

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budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member
"...real-world evidence that the authorized #COVID19 vaccines are safe and effective"




FDA and CDC Lift Recommended Pause on Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccine Use Following Thorough Safety Review​

Following a thorough safety review, including two meetings of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have determined that the recommended pause regarding the use of the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 Vaccine in the U.S. should be lifted and use of the vaccine should resume.

The pause was recommended after reports of six cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot in individuals following administration of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. During the pause, medical and scientific teams at the FDA and CDC examined available data to assess the risk of thrombosis involving the cerebral venous sinuses, or CVST (large blood vessels in the brain), and other sites in the body (including but not limited to the large blood vessels of the abdomen and the veins of the legs) along with thrombocytopenia, or low blood platelet counts. The teams at FDA and CDC also conducted extensive outreach to providers and clinicians to ensure they were made aware of the potential for these adverse events and could properly manage and recognize these events due to the unique treatment required for these blood clots and low platelets, also known as thrombosis-thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS).

The two agencies have determined the following:
  • Use of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine should be resumed in the United States.
  • The FDA and CDC have confidence that this vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19.
  • The FDA has determined that the available data show that the vaccine’s known and potential benefits outweigh its known and potential risks in individuals 18 years of age and older.
  • At this time, the available data suggest that the chance of TTS occurring is very low, but the FDA and CDC will remain vigilant in continuing to investigate this risk.
  • Health care providers administering the vaccine and vaccine recipients or caregivers should review the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine (Vaccination Providers)external icon and Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregiversexternal icon, which have been revised to include information about the risk of this syndrome, which has occurred in a very small number of people who have received the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.
CDC’s independent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices met today to discuss the latest data on TTS, hearing from the vaccine manufacturer Janssen and the COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Technical (VaST) Subgroup, as well as a risk benefit analysis. ACIP is committed to be vigilant and responsive to additional information that could impact the risk benefit analysis of any of these vaccines. Vaccine safety monitoring will continue and any new information about TTS will be brought to ACIP as needed.

“Safety is our top priority. This pause was an example of our extensive safety monitoring working as they were designed to work—identifying even these small number of cases. We’ve lifted the pause based on the FDA and CDC’s review of all available data and in consultation with medical experts and based on recommendations from the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. We have concluded that the known and potential benefits of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine outweigh its known and potential risks in individuals 18 years of age and older. We are confident that this vaccine continues to meet our standards for safety, effectiveness and quality. We recommend people with questions about which vaccine is right for them have those discussions with their health care provider,” said Janet Woodcock, M.D., Acting FDA Commissioner.

“Above all else, health and safety are at the forefront of our decisions,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky. “Our vaccine safety systems are working. We identified exceptionally rare events – out of millions of doses of the Janssen COVID-19 administered – and we paused to examine them more carefully. As we always do, we will continue to watch all signals closely as more Americans are vaccinated. I continue to be encouraged by the growing body of real-world evidence that the authorized COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, and they protect people from disease, hospitalization, and death. I urge anyone with questions about the COVID-19 vaccines to speak with their healthcare provider or local public health department.”

Assessment of Available Data​

Medical and scientific teams at the FDA and CDC reviewed several sources of information and data related to the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine to reach today’s decision.

Specifically, the agencies assessed reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS),external icon reviewed the medical literature and considered the information from global regulatory partners about thrombosis with thrombocytopenia that have been reported following use of a similar, yet not identical, COVID-19 vaccine using a virus from the adenovirus family that has been modified to contain the gene for making a protein from SARS-CoV-2.

Update on Adverse Events​

On April 13, the FDA and CDC announcedexternal icon that, out of more than 6.8 million doses administered, six reports of a rare and severe type of blood clot combined with low blood platelet levels occurring in people after receiving the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine had been reported to VAERS. In these cases, a type of blood clot called cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) was seen in combination with low levels of blood platelets (thrombocytopenia).

Today, the agencies can confirm that a total of 15 cases of TTS have been reported to VAERS, including the original six reported cases. All of these cases occurred in women between the ages of 18 and 59, with a median age of 37 years. Reports indicated symptom onset between 6 and 15 days after vaccination.

Monitoring for Safety Will Continue

The surveillance systems that are in place to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines authorized for emergency use are working, as demonstrated by both agencies’ quick work to identify and investigate these rare, but serious adverse events. The FDA and CDC will continue with these efforts to closely monitor the safety of these vaccines.

Reports of adverse events following vaccination can be made to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systemexternal icon.
 
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