Coronavirus vaccine thread

SeekingTruth

Woodpecker


Here are two older papers published regarding discussions about vaccines used for sterility.


This clinical trial ends in June regarding possible Covid vax effects on male sterility.
 

Tippy

Robin
Well, I live in Hungary and I am not allowed to sleep anywhere else than my own home and there is no end date for this restriction yet. (Because I am not vaccinated. Government calls it reopening...) My prediction is similar draconian rules will be installed everywhere else. Texas and Florida are exceptions and I predict they will do their bests to also rule those areas as well.

I hope you will be right. But I doubt it.

That is terrifying. You can't go to the gym or the cinema without an immunity certificate?
You can't even use a negative test as an alternative either? Damn. What about antibody tests, are they accepted?
 

Joe316

Robin
Well, I live in Hungary and I am not allowed to sleep anywhere else than my own home and there is no end date for this restriction yet. (Because I am not vaccinated. Government calls it reopening...) My prediction is similar draconian rules will be installed everywhere else.

Apartheid is your new normal. Unvaccinated are going to live an entirely new lifestyle.
 

Joe316

Robin
We will see buses with separated rear sections for unvaccinated. Just like they did wall off bus drivers behind plexiglass during 2020 lockdowns.

People who designed this bullshit of course never understood how vehicle ventilation actually works. It's the same BS for taxis.
 

PaulC

Robin
The reports of viral shedding infecting the non-vaccinated are troubling. I'm supposed to attend a wedding in a few months. I will be one of the only ones attending that hasn't been poisoned. I may have to pass.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Totally safe, she said!

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The er... system er... works...?
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SeekingTruth

Woodpecker
The one thing I am quite envious of about you guys in the US is it looks like you have some serious resistance. There are states you can go to which reject all this.

Here in the UK, sure there are one or two journalists and a couple of websites. But there's nothing big enough to stop this, I fear. The protests have been growing and that's something. Maybe it's because over there you can have different laws in different states.

Also, is this a sign the message is getting out to the mainstream?:


https://video.foxnews.com/v...
"Tucker: How many Americans have died after taking COVID vaccines?
May. 06, 2021 - 15:44 - 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host takes a look at the potential risks that come with taking vaccines".....because no one else in the media has.

"How many Americans have died after taking the COVID vaccines? Not Americans who’ve been killed by the virus, that’s a huge number, but how many Americans have died after getting the vaccines designed to prevent the virus? Do you know the answer to that question? Do you know anything about the downside? We know a lot about the upside of the vaccine. We’ve been completely in favor of vulnerable people taking vaccines.

But what about the potential risks? You’d think you would know more about that than you do. We talk about vaccines constantly, not just on this show, but in this country. Joe Biden was on TV yesterday talking about vaccines. He wants you to get one. Everyone in authority wants you to get one. In fact, you’ve probably already had your shot, and good for you. If you haven’t had your shot, you’re under enormous pressure to get your shot. You understand that soon you may not be able to fly on commercial airplanes or go to work at the office or send your children to school if you don’t have the shot. Meanwhile, the social pressure is enormous. Friends may have already informed you that you’re not welcome at their parties or weddings if you haven’t been vaccinated. There is a lot of pressure to comply. At some point, you probably will comply. It’s just too difficult not be to vaccinated in this country.

But before you make the appointment: do you know anything about the potential risks? Probably you don’t know much. We all assume the risks are negligible. Vaccines aren’t dangerous. That’s not a guess, we know that pretty conclusively from the official numbers. Every flu season, we give influenza shots to more than 160 million Americans. Every year, a relatively small number of people seem to die after getting those shots. To be precise, in 2019, that number was 203 people. The year before, it was 119. In 2017, a total of 85 people died from the flu shot.

Every death is tragic, but big picture, we don’t consider those numbers disqualifying. We keep giving flu shots, and very few people complain about it. So the question is how do those numbers compare to the death rate from the coronavirus vaccines now being distributed across the country? That’s worth knowing.

We checked today. Here’s the answer, which comes from the same set of government numbers that we just listed: Between late December of 2020, and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccines in the United States. Three thousand, three hundred and sixty-two — that’s an average of 30 people every day. So, what does that add up to? By the way, that reporting period ended on April 23. We don’t have numbers past that, we’re not quite up to date. But we can assume that another 360 people have died in the 12 days since. That is a total of 3,722 deaths. Almost four thousand people died after getting the COVID vaccines. The actual number is almost certainly much higher than that — perhaps vastly higher. ....(contd) "

Is this the first time MSM has discussed vax deaths on VAERS?
I’m sure there is a large percentage of the population that has no clue what’s going on.
 
Is this the first time MSM has discussed vax deaths on VAERS?
I’m sure there is a large percentage of the population that has no clue what’s going on.
Ah, that explains why the VAERS numbers dropped - it's finally getting coverage. Naturally it's Tucker Carlson and not the mainstream Fox News reports, but still.
 

Jake007

Pigeon
1) COVID-19 doesn’t exist. This supposedly deadly new virus has never been isolated, anywhere, by anyone, in any lab, therefore there is no proof of its existence.

It has apparently been isolated. I looked into it a few weeks ago when I became curious about how the Chinese could make a vaccine based on the inactivated virus. If the sources are legitimate, we should be careful about making the argument that the virus hasn’t been isolated. I’m not an expert though, so maybe somebody here on the forum can give feedback on these sources

On this site, selected labs and researchers can order specimens of the virus. It lists many of the variants that have been isolated so far:

https://www.beiresources.org/BEIHighlights1.aspx?ItemId=79&ModuleId=14004

This paper describes how Sars-Cov-2 was isolated from the first patient in Korea:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/

The complete genome from the coronavirus 2 isolate from Wuhan:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512

It was isolated from a US patient in January 2020, paper published in March:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/

Two mutated strains were isolated by Danish scientists in November 2020:

https://files.ssi.dk/Mink-cluster-5-short-report_AFO2
 
It has apparently been isolated. I looked into it a few weeks ago when I became curious about how the Chinese could make a vaccine based on the inactivated virus. If the sources are legitimate, we should be careful about making the argument that the virus hasn’t been isolated. I’m not an expert though, so maybe somebody here on the forum can give feedback on these sources

On this site, selected labs and researchers can order specimens of the virus. It lists many of the variants that have been isolated so far:

https://www.beiresources.org/BEIHighlights1.aspx?ItemId=79&ModuleId=14004

This paper describes how Sars-Cov-2 was isolated from the first patient in Korea:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/

The complete genome from the coronavirus 2 isolate from Wuhan:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512

It was isolated from a US patient in January 2020, paper published in March:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/

Two mutated strains were isolated by Danish scientists in November 2020:

https://files.ssi.dk/Mink-cluster-5-short-report_AFO2
No, it has not been isolated. Take a look at the dates for those papers. All of those claims barring the last are from early last year and all such claims have been subsequently refuted. You can find dozens of pieces online explaining why claims of virus isolation are false, Jon Rappoport for instance has done a great job on this.

Read these entries from his blog:


and this,


A more in-depth joint statement by three doctors on the virus isolation issue:


Chief Chinese epidemiologist gives interview and explicitly denies the virus has been isolated:


Another smoking gun, a Canadian woman named Christine Massey spent 2020 putting in FOIA requests to various institutions and agencies requesting to see records of The SARS-COV-2 virus having been isolated, and always got told the same thing - by almost 50 different agencies! - “no records available” :


Dr. Tom Cowan on the “virus”:


On and on it goes. Just read Rappoport’s blog all the entries dealing with virus isolation, and it becomes very clear this virus has not been isolated.
 
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Max Roscoe

Pelican
Didn't see this posted yet. Israel didn't pay Pfizer for their jabs, so Pfizer is suspending further deliveries of the vax until they catch up their payments. I guess they are waiting on Uncle Sam to cover the bill for them.

 

Jake007

Pigeon
No, it has not been isolated. Take a look at the dates for those papers. All of those claims barring the last are from early last year and all such claims have been subsequently refuted. You can find dozens of pieces online explaining why claims of virus isolation are false, Jon Rappoport for instance has done a great job on this.

Read these entries from his blog:


and this,


A more in-depth joint statement by three doctors on the virus isolation issue:


Chief Chinese epidemiologist gives interview and explicitly denies the virus has been isolated:


Another smoking gun, a Canadian woman named Christine Massey spent 2020 putting in FOIA requests to various institutions and agencies requesting to see records of The SARS-COV-2 virus having been isolated, and always got told the same thing - by almost 50 different agencies! - “no records available” :


Dr. Tom Cowan on the “virus”:


On and on it goes. Just read Rappoport’s blog all the entries dealing with virus isolation, and it becomes very clear this virus has not been isolated.
Thanks for the response, you make some good points. I will take a look at those blog posts
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member

Oh good. Chinese and Indian knockoff "vaccines" on the way.

I just picture Nigerians selling jabs on NY sidewalks next to the other guys selling fake Rolexes and Gucci bags ;)
 
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AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
Didn't see this posted yet. Israel didn't pay Pfizer for their jabs, so Pfizer is suspending further deliveries of the vax until they catch up their payments. I guess they are waiting on Uncle Sam to cover the bill for them.

Oh and I thought that it was not "about the money".

I want to see leftists explain away how Pfizer deserves to be compensated in a manner that maximizes profit during a "pandemic". The government of Israel is broke, as they do not tax all these high tech companies (FAANGS) at a fair market rate, and all the other industries are hopelessly inefficient and corrupt.

Since Netanyahu is not the next PM, and the new PM is not so jab happy, the whole vaxx hoax might end quicker than expected. Here is me hoping that Pfizer will bugger off once they will have to open source their secret sauce here in Europe.
 

aynrus

Pelican

Oh good. Chinese and Indian knockoff "vaccines" on the way.

I just picture Nigerians selling jabs on NY sidewalks next to the other guys selling fake Rolexes and Gucci bags ;)

This is poetic justice for big pharma. I knew Biden would be horrible, but this just takes the cake: the government issuing patent waivers? good, perhaps that means we can finally understand and see how this sequencing messes people up.
 
This is poetic justice for big pharma. I knew Biden would be horrible, but this just takes the cake: the government issuing patent waivers? good, perhaps that means we can finally understand and see how this sequencing messes people up.
More like they want zero supply reason for people to not take it. They want to make sure anyone refusing it is painted as a selfish white supremacist.
 
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