Coronavirus vaccine thread

SVK

 
Banned
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.
 

Cuchulainn2016

Woodpecker
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.
The issue with your logic is, like many people, you rush to attribute this to a conspiracy, when the most likely thing is incompetence in the production of the vaccine, or the fact it hasnt been fully tested yet.

Those two reasons are enough for me to say no to the vaccine.
 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Catholic
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.

Why would they then spend all this effort calling them “anti-vaxxers” and trying to persuade the “vax hesitant”? If your logic was correct, they would leave them alone as they know what’s coming. They wouldn’t want them to get it. So you’re logic is flawed.
 
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Simple Man

Kingfisher
Catholic
Gold Member
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.
Here is my take on your ideas

In your scenario, in which the vaccine will be the thing that keeps you alive, and the ‘disobedient’ wil be culled off - I would still prefer to be with the culled than with the vaccinated. This is because my thoughts about the vaccine is that it is the ultimate sign of worshipping false idols and turning against God. I understand that others might not see it this way, and I try not to think little of them when I see them queuing up for some gene therapy. My gut instinct tells me to stay far away from this at all costs,

I admit to having very little knowledge of the science behind these injections, but everything I am seeing and reading and witnessing first hand makes me want to have no part in it. I personally know people who have had bad vaccine side effects. I still have yet to meet a single person that knows anyone that has been affected by this virus. Ironically, the stories of people I know who have had to cancel trips to see loved ones, people who have missed weddings, funerals, unable to visit their parents and grandparents in nursing homes because of harsh Government lockdowns are countless. All because, apparently, there is a ‘deadly double mutant super spreading covid virus’ about to kill us all.

No, I will not take their fake covid test. I will not wear a stupid mask, I will continue to breathe as I always have done. I will not be the subject of some government and pharmaceutical experiment on the off chance that it will actually protect me from some virus that I would not even know existed if it werent for the those same government and pharmaceutical companies. Would you really want to live in whatever dystopian fantasy our ’elected leaders‘ have in store for us anyway? I’d rather go home to God.
 

hervens

Robin
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.
I believe you made a serious mistake. This is not the first time I hear about this theory, unfortunately the initial hypothesis in regards to the vaccines, especially the mRNA ones being a central part of the depopulation agenda still stands.

The plan was always to destroy western nations, including Israel and especially the United States. The nwo cannot happen as long as these nations stay strong. They will continue pushing to get upwards 95% of the population jabbed, which will also soon be approved for children as young as 2.

According to the Georgia Guidestones, they want to reduce the world's population to 500 million... at the same time the WHO expects to fully vaccinate 70% of the world by next fall, so please tell me how the vaccines are not part of the depopulation ? These guys pay allegiance to no one other than their own kind. They would happily sacrifice their own countries if it can help move forward the will of the elites.
 

SVK

 
Banned
Why would they then spend all this effort calling them “anti-vaxxers” and trying to persuade the “vax hesitant”? If you’re logic was correct, they would leave them alone as they know what’s coming. They wouldn’t want them to get it. So you’re logic is flawed.

The "effort" doesn't seem to be working very well to begin with. Keeping appearances would be a good reason. Also, I think most likely there is no conspiracy, the vaccines are real, although possibly fairly dangerous compared to regular traditional vaccines due to newer tech and rushed approval. I have a friend who was really sick for almost a week after his first shot of Pfizer.

What I'm saying *IF* there is a conspiracy it would be a lot more likely that the vaccine really is the cure than that is the poison as the incentives would be clearly lined up with that.
 

hkhathaj

Woodpecker
Other Christian
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.
This is also a possible option to think about. I have also thought it myself. Even if this conspiracy theory is true:

* Due to incompetence the vaccine still may kill
* Due to incompetence the vaccine still may not protect from the hypothetical very dangerous virus or whatever
* Even if that other virus will be very dangerous it will still be possible to survive without a vaccine
 

SVK

 
Banned
The issue with your logic is, like many people, you rush to attribute this to a conspiracy, when the most likely thing is incompetence in the production of the vaccine, or the fact it hasnt been fully tested yet.

Those two reasons are enough for me to say no to the vaccine.
Yeah, I think that is the most likely scenario. Vaccine is real but rushed, there is no conspiracy. I subscribe Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"

What I'm saying *IF* there is a grand conspiracy it would be a lot more likely that the vaccine really is the cure than that is the poison as the incentives would be clearly lined up with that and the result would be 100% positive for the conspirators (they are the saviors of the mankind). Still, I don't give it much probability, just I think it is a lot more likely than the vax == poison.
 

SVK

 
Banned
I believe you made a serious mistake. This is not the first time I hear about this theory, unfortunately the initial hypothesis in regards to the vaccines, especially the mRNA ones being a central part of the depopulation agenda still stands.

The plan was always to destroy western nations, including Israel and especially the United States. The nwo cannot happen as long as these nations stay strong. They will continue pushing to get upwards 95% of the population jabbed, which will also soon be approved for children as young as 2.

According to the Georgia Guidestones, they want to reduce the world's population to 500 million... at the same time the WHO expects to fully vaccinate 70% of the world by next fall, so please tell me how the vaccines are not part of the depopulation ? These guys pay allegiance to no one other than their own kind. They would happily sacrifice their own countries if it can help move forward the will of the elites.

In this economy you need skilled knowledge workers before anyone else to develop the technology that you need. These workers live in the West and are the most likely to take the vaccine. I mean think about it, if they really culled antivaxxers it would be Democrats everywhere for the next 50 years minimum. If I was the 0.001% with a depopulation plan I would want to get rid of 2 main classes: "undesirable" population in the West and wholesale genocide in the third world as that population is rising quickly (unlike most of Europe that is depopulating as is) and is almost completely useless in modern economy. You could also justify it internally as a good thing for the environment and actually a "gift" to the planet and humankind.
 

SVK

 
Banned
This is also a possible option to think about. I have also thought it myself. Even if this conspiracy theory is true:

* Due to incompetence the vaccine still may kill
* Due to incompetence the vaccine still may not protect from the hypothetical very dangerous virus or whatever
* Even if that other virus will be very dangerous it will still be possible to survive without a vaccine

Yeah, definitely. A very dangerous game.
 

IPS

Sparrow
Other Christian
Several people including the originator of mRNA technology are now saying that they are convinced (enough so to put their whole reputations on the line) that the "vaccine" payload travels from the injection site around the whole body and cause spike proteins to be manufactured and are not remaining cleaved to the cell...that they are finding those proteins to be pathogenic to the human body. They haven't yet ruled out ADE which would be another whole can of worms.
 
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GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
The "effort" doesn't seem to be working very well to begin with. Keeping appearances would be a good reason. Also, I think most likely there is no conspiracy, the vaccines are real, although possibly fairly dangerous compared to regular traditional vaccines due to newer tech and rushed approval. I have a friend who was really sick for almost a week after his first shot of Pfizer.

What I'm saying *IF* there is a conspiracy it would be a lot more likely that the vaccine really is the cure than that is the poison as the incentives would be clearly lined up with that.

The reason your theory is wrong is because the vaccine is not a cure for anything. There is no Sars-Cov-2 virus. It does not exist. The genomic sequence for it was fabricated on a computer based on assumptions. It does not exist in the wild. Covid-19 is a made-up name for common cold and flu symptoms therefore there is an ulterior motive for the toxic injection push.

Believing in the existence of this fabricated virus continues this psyop until the end of time guaranteeing continuous medical tyranny and cementing eternal power for demon-worshipping oligarchs.

It's a lie from top to bottom.
 

Don Quixote

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Why would they then spend all this effort calling them “anti-vaxxers” and trying to persuade the “vax hesitant”? If your logic was correct, they would leave them alone as they know what’s coming. They wouldn’t want them to get it. So you’re logic is flawed.
He has a point. They want to leak information that makes it seem like a scam and a danger to get vaccinated, injecting it with all kinds of politics, so that anyone with a brain refuses to take it. In other words, this stuff with Gates could be itself a psy-op to get people who are incredulous to not take the vaccine and then later on get culled. That being said, I still do not think it is worth taking the injection.
 

SVK

 
Banned
The reason your theory is wrong is because the vaccine is not a cure for anything. There is no Sars-Cov-2 virus. It does not exist. The genomic sequence for it was fabricated on a computer based on assumptions. It does not exist in the wild. Covid-19 is a made-up name for common cold and flu symptoms therefore there is an ulterior motive for the toxic injection push.

Believing in the existence of this fabricated virus continues this psyop until the end of time guaranteeing continuous medical tyranny and cementing eternal power for demon-worshipping oligarchs.

It's a lie from top to bottom.
I personally know someone who died from Covid. My friend's father at only 59. I believe it is indeed real. It's perhaps quite a bit less dangerous than some of the media hype, still it is pretty bad and not comparable to just regular flu or cold.
 

Don Quixote

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
I personally know someone who died from Covid. My friend's father at only 59. I believe it is indeed real. It's perhaps quite a bit less dangerous than some of the media hype, still it is pretty bad and not comparable to just regular flu or cold.
Agree. I got Covid early on, I was in Bergamo Italy when it all started. At first I vomited and had fever, then three weeks later I had a cough and unbearable fatigue and chest pain that lasted for six months. Granted, I could have easily avoided all of those symptoms had I known initially that what I was dealing with was Covid. I assumed it was something else because it was nothing like the flu. And second, once I did figure out I had Covid, I was stupid enough to believe I was dealing with a simple virus rather than something that has parasitic/bacterial components to it. If I had known how to treat early on I would have gotten over it in a couple of weeks.
 

GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
I personally know someone who died from Covid. My friend's father at only 59. I believe it is indeed real. It's perhaps quite a bit less dangerous than some of the media hype, still it is pretty bad and not comparable to just regular flu or cold.

This is why it will never end. Because people indeed believe it is real.
 

NoFunInAus

 
Banned
You guys have it all wrong. You've got the right idea with population control, but it's the complete opposite effect to what most of you are claiming. Look at what countries are at the top of vaccination rates. I'm going to help you out, but outside of some tiny micronations the country at the top is Israel (BTW it is mostly BioNTech-Pfizer, an mRNA vaccine).
It would make absolutely no sense to kill off the obedient, liberal, already with the agenda western population while letting the rebellious antivaxxers and the third world to live. The writing is already on the wall - mRNA vaccines like Pfizer are allegedly super effective against the Delta variant. Watch Covid-19 to suddenly "mutate" into something a lot more dangerous like MERS once everyone that was willing is vaccinated. Easily killing off 50% of the problematic population, while the mRNA vaccines still work fairly well to at least keep you alive so that you are forever thankful to your masters. Probably this winter, the "dark winter" mentioned.

It sucks to live in this world, but I'm a survivor and I know what I'm doing. You do what you please. There's definitely issues with the mRNA technology like the heart issues that were reported, I think that is just a side effect of a very powerful therapeutic. It's just the incentives are completely misaligned with culling the "obedient" population. I strongly believe that if there is a conspiracy (not 100% sold on it), this is it. I'll take my chances. Also, I already have kids in the case it makes you infertile, so not that worried about it.

Please let me know what do you think is the issue with my logic.

I don't believe your reasoning. You're just taking the vaxx so you can have an "easy" life. You're also not concerned about your children's health (or fertility) because you want an easy last leg at life. You're terrified of death and you excuse all of your weak behaviour as success. God is our judgement.
 

GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
I was dealing with a simple virus rather than something that has parasitic/bacterial components to it.

If you had an illness with parasitic/bacterial components to it, then it was definitely NOT what the medical establishment is calling Sars-Cov-2. There are a myriad of explanations for the condition you suffered through that do not involve a made-up condition called Covid-19.
 
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