Coronavirus vaccine thread

Aizen

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I've seen many members mention pressure from family to take the posion jab. I find myself in this situation as well, but will not budge under any circumstances. I pray that you have the strength to do the same.

If you are a based male and show any signs of pushback, you will likely be attacked by the sheep with "muh science". My parents bombarded me with CNN articles until I sent them this email several days ago. Nothing but crickets from them. Highly recommend this treatment for reversing the effects of media-induced brainwash:


Seems like you guys really love science, so here you go :

1. Are there possible adverse event outcomes? 545,337 in VAERS database (7/30/21) - https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

2. Do the pharmaceutical companies have total indemnification from liability? Yes, Congressional “PREP ACT”

3. Is this a vaccine? No, mRNA messenger is lab synthetic genetic therapy

4. What additional chemicals are in the injection? Moderna SM-102 proprietary

5. Is the vaccine FDA approved? No, emergency approval only

6. Were drug interaction studies done? No

7. Were single dose toxicity studies done? No

8. Were toxicokinetic studies done? No

9. Were genotoxicity studies done? No

10. Were carcinogenicity studies done? No

11. Were pre/postnatal studies done? No

12. Is the mRNA injection effective? Mild reduction in symptoms

13. How long does it protect against Covid? Don’t know

14. Does it help people who contracted and survived Covid? Don’t know

15. Does it prevent transmission of Covid? Don’t know

16. Are there medical treatments for Covid? Yes: Ivermectin, Hydroxichloriquin, Zinc, and Vitamins D & C

17. What are Covid survival chances?

0-14: 99.9998%

15-44: 99.9931%

45-64: 99.9294%

65-85: 99.6297%
 

WhiteWolf

 
Banned
I am not saying it's impossible, but it's 100% conjecture and there's no point in getting ahead of yourself like that. It also removes a large amount of credibility from the covid/vax skeptics side. If you want others to take you seriously, make your arguments tighter and focused on real data.
I would never talk about 5G & covid connection in public or when having a discussion with a normie. But on this site people are more aware of what's going on, so what is wrong with discussing these theories here? You yourself say it's not impossible. Right now nothing would surprise me anymore, that includes a connection with vaccines and 5G
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
I would never talk about 5G & covid in public or when having a discussion with a normie. But on this site people are more aware of what's going on so what is wrong with discussing these theories here? You yourself say it's not impossible. Right now nothing would surprise me anymore, that includes a connection with vaccines and 5G
One way I've found effective is to politely push them and probe as to how far they're willing to go. Cite examples like how Australia has soldiers patrolling the streets to force people to stay inside, and ask them if they think we should do that here. You can also point to how China was welding people's doors shut to contain the spread and they still had an outbreak.
 

kel

 
Banned
That’s what I’m afraid of. I just showed my deep blue liberal “friend” a report from the NIH (WHERE SHE USED TO WORK) that showed natural immunity, gained from natural infection, has a strong response and lasts!

Her response over text was... “dude tell me you’ve gotten vaccinated.”

Unbelievable. What an idiot! Arrogance and negligence Be damned!
Not to add to paranoia, but honestly, such a friend can be a liability. Information has been leaked to someone who may use it against you.
 

Endurance

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
I would never talk about 5G & covid connection in public or when having a discussion with a normie. But on this site people are more aware of what's going on so what is wrong with discussing these theories here? You yourself say it's not impossible. Right now nothing would surprise me anymore, that includes a connection with vaccines and 5G
The odds of there being some 5G connection are so remote that it is not even worth discussing. That has the same type of energy as "there are microchips in the vaccine bro." Talk like that just diminishes the legitimate concerns many have with the vaccines. You can wildly speculate about anything. Doesn't mean you should.
 

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer

Batman_

Kingfisher
You're right, what was i thinking. The elites care so much about us that they are putting these antennas everywhere so we can have super fast internet. They would never use something like 5G for something more sinister. Silly me.
I'm not saying 5g wouldn't be used for nefarious purposes if it could be, but there's no evidence it's harmful, so why bother speculating? Also if 5g was in fact harmful I would think it's more likely out of negligence/ignorance rather than malicious intent, though you can never 100% rule out the latter.

If you ask me, the 5g crazy is merely the result of our addiction to smartphones, and the elites surely know that people can be controlled more easily this way; however I doubt they have much of a hand in it.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
The odds of there being some 5G connection are so remote that it is not even worth discussing. That has the same type of energy as "there are microchips in the vaccine bro." Talk like that just diminishes the legitimate concerns many have with the vaccines. You can wildly speculate about anything. Doesn't mean you should.
And you don’t need to preach it to everyone. It could be 100% provably true and nobody would go there.

None of the more “far out” people at RVF Started that way. It all started with the much smaller truth that “what feminism tells us about women is BS and they don’t want a ‘nice guy’”.

Think about what I’m saying here. There’s more than one lesson to take away.
 

chestmilk

Chicken
Protestant
Welp, my number came up, somewhat. Right now unvaccinated just have to get tested weekly effective next week. I'm not doing the PCR - I don't want any foreign object entering my body from this bioterror episode. I saw there's home saliva tests, some of which even have an EUA from the FDA. Not that that means anything to me but hopefully it does to them. I'm not going to ask them if that's okay, moreso I'm just going to wait and see if they ask. Will seek more guidance from God this weekend. If they say it has to be PCR, then I'm outta here - meaning I'll give them the pleasure of firing me. Or same if they change their minds and require the vaccine. Pretty easy though compared to what some of you zers have. I think God puts us in situations up to what we can handle so that's probably why old chestmilk has a pretty low level difficulty setting. Thankfully this all has been building my faith though.

Harder challenge is wife and daughters are midway on a 4 month trip back in her country to see her family. We're watching regularly to see if they're going to change travel requirements to get back to Hawaii where we live.. our signal to cut her trip short and get back here.

Stay strong and have faith Zers
 

Endurance

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
And you don’t need to preach it to everyone. It could be 100% provably true and nobody would go there.

None of the more “far out” people at RVF Started that way. It all started with the much smaller truth that “what feminism tells us about women is BS and they don’t want a ‘nice guy’”.

Think about what I’m saying here. There’s more than one lesson to take away.
I'm curious what you hope to accomplish by discussing these bizarre conspiracy theories? This is a public forum and I don't think its difficult to discern that most normal people who come across this thread who may have otherwise been open to reasonable COVID criticisms will be immediately turned off by such discussion. Don't get vaxxed because you might unknowingly get chipped by the elites and/or have your mind controlled or be killed through 5G technology. I think it'd be a shame to see this thread go off the rails in this regard by whatever. I can't help but be reminded of Alex Jones, "They're putting chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay."
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
I have heard in a few different places, usually where the exemption publicity is hidden (conveniently), that exemptions are in fact offered by most organizations. I presume these are religious and medical "reasons". How hard do you think these will be able to employ to dodge it? These are bureaucracies after all, but that means paid peons to carry things out as well as incompetent or careless followup.
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
I looked into this when my brothers wife got pregnant. The rate of C sections at our for-profit hospital was 25%. Imagine that. Telling one in four women that their naturally born birth canal was defective and a man with a knife needs to slice her stomach open so she can have a baby.

Of course, all the other hospitals are still doing too many, but they are typically owned by a church or nonprofit and have very low single digit c-section rates.

I wonder what the c section rate is for births that start at home with a midwife.
Probably about the rate of dying of covid. 0.0001%
Forgive me but I have to correct many things medical around here, the real issue is the system at play here (the medicolegal one primarily) with particular doctors, appointments, precautions, schedules, etc.

If you don't believe that, try buying OB/GYN medical malpractice insurance. Or going to a state where trial lawyers are the biggest donors/Democrats run things.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
The 2018-19 me poo pooed the globalist resets, end of Western civilizations and JQ inversion agenda

So many 2019-20's conspiracy theories are now conspiracy facts that "wacky" is now just an "early adopter" and "ridiculous" is akin to "visionary"


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Example. A couple weeks back someone posted an image of feminine hygiene product with "nano technology". I thought it was a joke.

A few days ago Im in line and something the lady in front of me's cart caught my eye

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Ridiculous to reality... warp speed ahead

The leap to "5G is for control " just got shorter
 
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lskdfjldsf

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
There are enough legitimate medical reasons to avoid the vaccine. Talking about 5G and mind control discredits the anti-vaccine crowd, makes us look like nutjobs (this is exactly the ammunition the media uses) and ends up resulting in more fence sitters getting jabbed.

This forum is one of the few accessible places where free discussion of the vaccine exists. Keep in mind that many regular people read this and are immediately repulsed by Alex Jones tier nonsense when factual, non-speculative discussion would otherwise prevent them from getting vaccinated.

Big pharma spends countless billions on lobbying and advertising. While forum veterans can (but probably shouldn't) entertain 5G ideas, many of these new accounts with less than 5 posts immediately talking about flat earth theory in this thread are suspect. Just reported one this morning.
 
From Doctors for Covid Ethics:

Variants are always more infectious but doctors (pre-2020) don’t care about them because they are always harmless. The vaccine isn’t resistant because it isn’t a legitimate ‘vaccine’. The reason people may get sick and die from Delta and Lambda is because they were vaccinated and are suffering ADE - Anti-Body Dependent Enhancement. Pre-2020 a vaccine that caused ADE would have been stopped and recalled. The news headline is a twist on emotional words - it’s Sorcery.

I get exactly what you're saying.
 
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