Coronavirus vaccine thread

DenizenJane

Woodpecker
The thing is its now a government vanity project. If the vaccine isn't made mandatory (even if its dangerous and/or useless), then the Germ won't be considered a big deal, and if it's not considered a big deal, then the lockdowns will be considered more outrageous, and if the lockdowns are considered to be more outrageous, then the governments all across the world begin to be embarassed.
 

NoMoreTO

Ostrich
"The only way to get out of a mandatory mask is a mandatory vaccination" -- this is the mindset of the government.

We weren't told why based on cases, death etc. masks were required, nor were we told why/when they would come off. So it follow the above statement is true. Don't wear a mask.
 

Stats

Woodpecker
Mandatory vaccination is the place to draw the line and make the stand. There will be a lot of policy makers and health care workers 'just following orders' most well meaning. These people need to have their eyes opened or stopped by all means necessary.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member

"...but getting people to take the vaccine, getting them to trust the government's information around the vaccine is going to be a real challenge."

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Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I made a new thread to talk about Australia specifically:
 

Sisyphus

Woodpecker

I will translate some choice quotes from the good doctor:
Dr. F.: "I don't think you'll ever see a mandating of vaccines, particularly for the general public"
Translation: There will be mandatory vaccines for the general public

Dr. F.: "You cannot force someone to take a vaccine"
Translation: We will force everyone to take a vaccine

And the cherry on top for this fine piece of journalism is a nice sound bite from none other than Mr. Windows Vista himself.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member
Via Ron Paul Weekly Column, "Good News: Fauci’s Out and Common Sense Might Be Returning".

Monday August 17, 2020

These days it seems there is not much good news out there. People are still panicked over the coronavirus, governments are still trampling civil liberties in the name of fighting the virus, the economy –already teetering on the edge of collapse – has been kicked to the ground by what history may record as one of the worst man-made disasters of all time: shutting down the country to fight a cold virus.

That’s why we’ll take good news wherever we can get it, and President Trump’s hiring of Dr. Scott Atlas to his coronavirus task force may just be that good news we need. As the media has reported, President Trump has sidelined headline-hogging Anthony Fauci in favor of Atlas, the former Stanford University Medical Center chief of neuroradiology.

Recall, Fauci was the “expert” who told us a few months ago that we would never be able to shake hands again.

Fauci’s advice, forecasts, and assessments proved to be wildly wrong, contradictory, and just plain bizarre: Don’t wear a mask! You must wear a mask. Masks are important as symbols. Put on goggles. Stay home! Churches must be severely restricted but Black Lives Matter marches and encounters with strangers met over the Internet are perfectly fine.

When Anthony Fauci demanded a lockdown of the economy for an indefinite period he actually seemed oblivious to the havoc it would wreak on the economy and on people’s lives. People like Fauci and others who demanded lockdowns and stay-at-home orders were still collecting their paychecks, so what did they care about anyone else?

Dr. Scott Atlas is not only a former top physician and hospital administrator: as a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution he also understands the policy implications of locking a country down.

On April 22, Dr. Atlas wrote an op-ed in The Hill titled, “The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation.” In the article he made five main points that are as true today as when he wrote them: an overwhelming majority of people are at no risk of dying from Covid; protecting older people prevents hospital overcrowding; locking down a population actually prevents the herd immunity necessary to defeat the virus; people are dying because they are not being treated for non-Covid illnesses; we know what part of the population is at risk and we can protect them.

Imagine how many thousands of lives could have been saved had the Administration listened to Dr. Atlas back in April. CDC Director Robert Redfield admitted last month that lockdowns were killing more Americans than Covid. “First do no harm” was thrown out the window and nearly six months of wrong-headed policy has done perhaps irreparable harm to the country.

South Dakota and Sweden did virtually nothing to lock down or restrict their populations and they actually fared better than lockdown states in the US. They had lower death rates, their hospitals were never over-run with Covid patients, and they have an economy to go back to.

We very much hope that Dr. Atlas will not “moderate” his message to please the blob in Washington. Trump’s Covid policies to this point have caused more harm than good. With Fauci out of the driver’s seat we finally have a chance of turning things around.

 

andy dufresne

Kingfisher
I just heard from a Chinese friend who took an experimental Covid vaccine yesterday. She said a few hours after the jab, she was nauseous and light headed for the rest of the day. She thinks she fainted at one point. The next day she felt fine.

How will she feel 4 years from now?
 

Horus

Ostrich
Gold Member
I just heard from a Chinese friend who took an experimental Covid vaccine yesterday. She said a few hours after the jab, she was nauseous and light headed for the rest of the day. She thinks she fainted at one point. The next day she felt fine.
Update on this. She told me that two thirds of them were given the trial vaccine, while one third were given a placebo. They're definitely being used as Guinea pigs.
 

Louis IX

Pelican
I am considering for the first time of my life corrupting a doctor or a nurse , in order for me and my family to never get this vaccine , in case it goes mandatory (and assuming it s a paper certificate , not a micro-chip).
Will God forgive me for this ? Is it moral or should I submit to the "law" ?
 

fokker

Ostrich
I'm personally hoping that it IS just a credit card-sized card with a QR code instead of a microchip, but Gates' pronouncements about "(((it's just a conspiracy theory, you Nazis)))" make me think it WILL be a microchip.

Of course, I'd rather no vaccine, "health passport" or microchip at all.
 
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