Coronavirus vaccine thread

MeaningfulMan

Woodpecker
Catholic
This is my first post. I'd like to share my experiences. Most of you folks have it easy in your location. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. We have a far left provincial government in place. They take the term "Daddy Government" to uncomfortable levels. I'll give you a run down of what's happening here:
1. Complete mask requirement in every retail & service space.
2. Vaccine mandates for every government employee at every level of government.
3. Vaccine mandates for many corporate organizations.
4. Vaccine passports for all restaurants, bars, gyms, theaters, & stadiums.
5. As of October 30, vaccine passports for ALL domestic flights & rail travel.
We are essentially trapped in our location. Thank God, I still have access to mountain biking. But for how long?
I know many nurses who will lose their jobs very soon due to the mandates. My estimate is a loss of 15-20% of healthcare workers. This will create chaos in an already over burdened public health care system. Combined with the dramatic supply system issues, I can only be pessimistic in my surroundings. Yet, I remain confident & strong.
Mountain biking? With everything going on, you’re going… mountain biking?
What happens when you break your leg? Where do you get sent?
And who has been refusing service for declining a particular medication?
Sure… enjoy your mountain biking!
 

canuckj

Robin
Other Christian
We may have to create a new Underground Railroad. This time going south to freedom instead of north.
Brother, you hit the nail on the head with that comment. I am in Alberta and have had the same thought that patriots in the US may be able to get us across the border if things get really bad. Things in Alberta are no better. We can't go to gyms, bars, restaurants or movies either. Many here are being fired and put on leave for refusing vaccines.
 

get2choppaaa

Ostrich
Orthodox
Mountain biking? With everything going on, you’re going… mountain biking?
What happens when you break your leg? Where do you get sent?
And who has been refusing service for declining a particular medication?
Sure… enjoy your mountain biking!
Don't be a doomer. Let the guy enjoy his hobbies... This is the fear based mentality that leads us to where we are now.
 

hedonist

Kingfisher
Other Christian
They won't be able to get out overland to the US soon. There's a short window remaining, until end of January 2021, when US closes land border to all unvaccinated foreigners. Right now they can still get out overland if they come up with essential reason to visit US.

Good point about winter. Russia is going Australia-Canada route right now, and I think the worst should come in winter when protests are least likely/too cold.
Have to be careful with this too afaik rail/cruise ships you will need the passport , no mention of driving or buses or cargo ships.

And still can't get confirmation if its possible to fly till nov 30 with a PCR test only...
 

Pointy Elbows

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Brother, you hit the nail on the head with that comment. I am in Alberta and have had the same thought that patriots in the US may be able to get us across the border if things get really bad. Things in Alberta are no better. We can't go to gyms, bars, restaurants or movies either. Many here are being fired and put on leave for refusing vaccines.
With respect to my western, New World brothers, I am coming to see America as the last hope for western civilization, if it is to exist at all. This is by no means to brag or be over-confident in America's future, as there is much cause for doubt. We simply do have some semblance of individual autonomy and we do have some pockets, if not whole states, of resistance.

It is no innocent mistake that our southern borders was flooded last 12 months with 1.7M "refugees" from latin America and parts yonder. The idea is to break the back of the white, primarily WASPy, population, particularly now in Texas, which is only slightly Red. We have abandoned any substantial opportunity for immigration from white countries, though I'm sure many more would gladly come, and be welcomed by us. See 1964/5 Immigration Reform Act.

Most other western hemisphere countries have abandoned the right to bear arms. Several decades ago, I remember being shocked when a Canadian judge ruled that "freedom of speech was a US idea" or something like that. The point was that the Canadian Gov was going to restrict freedom of speech against right-wing guys as they saw fit. Meanwhile, lefties had free reign.

I always saw the ANZAC, Canada, UK guys as our most natural brothers. The history and people just made sense to be most natural allies. Their advancement, through my lifetime, into lefty euro-style governments has always bothered me. It is like watching your closest friends getting pozzed and being able to do little about it.

The American government has abandoned any sense of meaningful legal enforcement at the southern border. No reason to not abandon it at the northern border as well, as far as I am concerned. Hell, if this foolishness knocks me out of business, maybe I'll be forced into black market and set up shop as a northland coyote!

Imagine thousands of plaid-clad Canadian Caravanners coming to the border, seeking refuge and opportunity free of socialistic abuse! :D "Tell Biden we're coming!" Well, a guy can dream still.
 

canuckj

Robin
Other Christian
With respect to my western, New World brothers, I am coming to see America as the last hope for western civilization, if it is to exist at all. This is by no means to brag or be over-confident in America's future, as there is much cause for doubt. We simply do have some semblance of individual autonomy and we do have some pockets, if not whole states, of resistance.

It is no innocent mistake that our southern borders was flooded last 12 months with 1.7M "refugees" from latin America and parts yonder. The idea is to break the back of the white, primarily WASPy, population, particularly now in Texas, which is only slightly Red. We have abandoned any substantial opportunity for immigration from white countries, though I'm sure many more would gladly come, and be welcomed by us. See 1964/5 Immigration Reform Act.

Most other western hemisphere countries have abandoned the right to bear arms. Several decades ago, I remember being shocked when a Canadian judge ruled that "freedom of speech was a US idea" or something like that. The point was that the Canadian Gov was going to restrict freedom of speech against right-wing guys as they saw fit. Meanwhile, lefties had free reign.

I always saw the ANZAC, Canada, UK guys as our most natural brothers. The history and people just made sense to be most natural allies. Their advancement, through my lifetime, into lefty euro-style governments has always bothered me. It is like watching your closest friends getting pozzed and being able to do little about it.

The American government has abandoned any sense of meaningful legal enforcement at the southern border. No reason to not abandon it at the northern border as well, as far as I am concerned. Hell, if this foolishness knocks me out of business, maybe I'll be forced into black market and set up shop as a northland coyote!

Imagine thousands of plaid-clad Canadian Caravanners coming to the border, seeking refuge and opportunity free of socialistic abuse! :D "Tell Biden we're coming!" Well, a guy can dream still.
You got so many things right in your post. We do not have any real freedom of speech in Canada anymore. The problem in Canada is that we are governed by a far left woke government and their voters love them. It is truly frustrating. I can assure you that many of us would love to move south and enjoy your freedoms. I will bring my large extended family and we all promise to become patriots .
 

Paleblood Knight

Sparrow
Protestant
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, however testimonies of those affected by the Pfizer jag in Israel are here in an hour video:

 

oldfaith

 
Banned
Orthodox
Have to be careful with this too afaik rail/cruise ships you will need the passport , no mention of driving or buses or cargo ships.

And still can't get confirmation if its possible to fly till nov 30 with a PCR test only...

There might be provincial restrictions placed on buses, if not now then later.
Yes, federal rule doesn't mention buses.
Seems like test is ok during transition period until Nov 30:
 

West_001

Robin
Protestant
Los Angeles county recently passed a mandate requiring people to show proof of vaccination for bars & nightclubs.

Very recently - I have attended multiple birthday parties for a few friends where the bars never asked nor did they even ask people to wear a mask.
I believe this starts November 7?

I’ve also seen several documents stating a start date of October 20.

Much of the information is cloudy.
 

MeaningfulMan

Woodpecker
Catholic
Don't grow your own food. Might get stung by bees.

Don't get cows goats or chickens. They might hurt you.

Don't learn how to build stuff. You might get injured.
Yes I understand your equivalencies, I’m just saying… Assuming mountain biking has a high rate of injury… Wouldn’t you want to try and avoid the hospitals these days? Given you could be forced into taking a vaccination, just so you could have a broken leg fixed?
 

Elipe

Pelican
Protestant
Yes I understand your equivalencies, I’m just saying… Assuming mountain biking has a high rate of injury… Wouldn’t you want to try and avoid the hospitals these days? Given you could be forced into taking a vaccination, just so you could have a broken leg fixed?
Your ancestors conquered the world before hospitals ever really existed. They also conquered the world before sanitation was a thing. Fighting indigenous populations also has a high rate of injury.
 
Presumably there is an order of magnitude higher risk with dangerous vs "safe" mountain biking. Not that he necessarily would, but if he always bikes 2 levels lower than his capability, I imagine his risk is negligibly higher than not doing it.
 
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