Coronavirus vaccine thread

EvanWilson

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I can see why people are concerned about the VA and MA states announcements of mandatory vaccinations; but anyone advocating such a thing really does not know what they are talking about, or worse, are trying to make it look like they are doing something. The leader in the race for a vaccine, Moderna (MRNA stock symbol) is only what can really be describe as a failure of a company. Pre COVID they ran through over a billion in investors' money and had nothing to show for it. COVID comes along and they got another billion to 'make a vaccine' for a virus class that has never had a full vaccine made. ( SARS and MERS still have no vaccine even though it has been years.) Even if they somehow do 'make something' their current timeline is another 25 months from July 2020 for trials, which would put them at July 2022 before they have anything to even try to put out there. By then COVID will have run its course and the vaccine not needed anymore. Anyone that was talking about 'making' people take a vaccine will look like an idiot who did not know what they were talking about; which they don't.

What I am more concerned about is how many people are more than willing to go along with an effort to make a vaccine mandatory. When vaccines became available for smallpox or polio, no one had to force people to get them; the vast majority of the people knew they worked and wanted to get one. Now things are so problematic that they talk about forcing people to get the vaccine before they even know if they can make it.

Moderna up 7% on positive COVID-19 vaccine data
 
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Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
What I don't get is all the talk about a vaccine, BEFORE one is discovered. It's such a bizarre and suspicous line, and it should be proof to anyone paying attention that we are all being played here. I mean, consider smallpox, which is the big vaccine success story.

Prior to smallpox vaccinations being discovered, NO ONED was talking about "gosh, we will just wait for them to discover a vaccine". It's just such an odd and unscientific way to view the problem. There are plenty of dangerous viruses, from AIDS, to Ebola, to SARS to MERS. There are not vaccines for any of them, and they have been around for decades. Covid-19 has been around a few months.

We have understood vaccines and how they work for over a hundred years now. AIDS was discovered in 1983. Was anyone in 1983 or 1984 saying "Hang on guys, we will have a vaccine for this soon, and then things will return to normal?" No. That's not how scientific discoveries work. The fact that people are seriously talking about the prediction of a future scientific discovery (a coronavirus innoculation) as if it is inevitable fact is HIGHLY suspicous.

Anyway, if vaccines can be easily created if we dedicate enough resources to them, why in the world don't we have a vaccine yet for AIDS, which affects the holy classes of Africans and homosexuals? It's been almost 30 years! Maybe black lives really don't matter, huh?
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
RFK Jr. is currently in Berlin, Germany. Looks like there is going to be a huge protest tomorrow.


He gave a press conference in this video. I have to say I now have a lot more respect for RFK Jr. due to his tremendous insight and knowledge where he briefly talked about: CDC, vaccinations, lack of safety testing, lack of regulations, 1986 law (USA) gave pharmaceuticals complete immunity from liability, etc. Tip: Around the 8:03 mark, he talks about the history of compliance and fear. He also mentioned Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Davos, 5G being used for Surveillance State, etc. Everything's that's been discussed here in multiple threads & posts over the past 5+ months.


 
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Nice fraulein on the right of RFK there, wonder if she'd make a good mother.

The problem with all of this is that those who control the "medical" initiatives like the WHO and the CDC use their billions to push their agendas down on the masses through laws tailored to fit with their product, and the concoction of vaccination for public health is just another facet that the "medical" directives are in the hands of the enemy.
 

LeoniusD

Kingfisher

They won't make it mandatory - they already did with the flu vaccine for students up to college students. And you won't hear about the cases of students who had to take the vaxx and got damaged for life. That is their risk, they are forced to take a rather risky procedure with far higher side-effects than reported, but you are left alone when you are damaged by it. Vaccines will be mandatory.

And protests - large protests like in Berlin - they won't stop the lockdowns or machines, but they will make any further progression of the agenda way more difficult. Millions came out in Berlin - amazing that the marxist indoctrinated Germans had the biggest resistance. It's still a scientific logic-focused country after all despite decades of alien marxist brainwashing. They were mainly taught to hate themselves, but not hate too much their own mental skills with regard to anything else.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
FDA is clearing the way for hasty, untested COVID vaccines by skipping phase 3 trials.

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FDA skipping phase 3 trials on COVID vaccines, turning the American people into guinea pigs for Big Pharma’s high-profit medical experiments

The arrogance of those who worship vaccine science is on full display now. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) just made a commitment to authorize millions of new covid-19 vaccines before the already corrupted phase three trials are complete. The arrogance is so brazen, President Donald Trump is putting the military in charge of rolling the vaccine program out. The Department of Defense has already awarded a $138 million contract for prefilled syringes, as if safety and efficacy studies do not matter at all.

A senior Trump administration official said that they are “very confident that by year end we will have tens of millions of vaccines put into American arms.” The official told CNN that under Operation Warp Speed, vaccine manufacturing will begin by the end of summer. “In many cases it’s already underway,” the official said. “We’re acquiring the equipment, we’re setting up the space, we’re acquiring, in some cases, the raw materials to do it. We have project teams that are assigned to go out to each manufacturing site.”

FDA clearing the way for hasty, untested vaccine that will constitute WAR CRIMES
FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn is under intense political pressure to get millions of vaccine doses out before the 2020 election and has said the agency will authorize a new covid-19 vaccine for emergency use before the Phase Three clinical trials are complete. The emergency use authorization will not be a full approval, said Hahn, who will approve the vaccines as long as the drug company representatives overseeing the process are convinced that the postulated benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks of a hypothetical infection.

This is not going to be a political decision,” Hahn said, in a pathetic display of doublespeak. “This is going to be a science, medicine, data decision.” The Phase Three trials typically involve thousands of patients and take multiple years to conduct. The emergency use authorization will push millions of vaccinations into healthcare workers and into other demographics of people who are determined to be “at greatest risk.” Ironically, vaccine injury is statistically more prevalent in people with weakened immune systems – the same group of people determined to be “at greatest risk.”

There will be no recourse or compensation for these vaccine injuries, nor will there be a system to detect and differentiate symptoms caused by the vaccines from real time infections. This is why new covid-19 outbreaks will be blamed on the “un-vaccinated” – pushing lawmakers and private companies to come up with new ways to coerce the un-vaccinated population to submit.

Drug companies and governments imposing their will over the people
As American freedom still hangs in the balance, government regulators and drug companies continue to impose their will over the people. Forced vaccination has been the goal all along. A senior Trump administration official said distribution of the emergency vaccine will be “nationwide” and will be a “joint venture” between the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Defense. The official also said that distribution of the vaccines will be “a collaborative process” between the private sector and the military. The Department of Defense “is handling all the logistics of getting the vaccines to the right place, at the right time, in the right condition.”

According to a fact sheet on the US Department of Health and Human Services website, the federal government wants to use the military to help deliver “300 million doses of a safe, effective vaccine for COVID-19 by January 2021.” This will be done by skipping over ten years of necessary safety studies and clinical trials that determine the vaccine’s one-sided (antibody augmentation) measurement of effectiveness.

To stay up-to-date on the looming emergency use vaccine WAR CRIMES against American citizens, read Vaccines.News.

Sources
SHTFPlan.com
Defense.gov
CNN.com
Politico.com
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The FDA has always been a gatekeeping farce. I understand the need for safety and efficacy studies, but if disease can be prevented or eradicated via non-pharmaceutical interventions, why have the FDA at all?

These days I think if Jesus performed His ministry of healing the sick and raising the dead, it would be Big Pharma demanding His crucifixion, not the Jews.
 

andy dufresne

Woodpecker

You see the trick here? They say that we don't want to rush things by releasing the vaccine until it's 'safe and effective.'? Meaning next year. They're trying to play the good guys when really they're just total slime.

Most vaccines take 10 years to develop and even then they're not that safe.

 
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