Coronavirus vaccine thread

r3d

Woodpecker
Protestant
Maybe the article isn't well researched, I didn't read it, but:
I don't share the distrust against Dr. Füllmich. I've watched a hundred hours worth of his interviews and discussions. Their organization is doing so much valuable work, if it were controlled opposition they'd be overdoing it by a lot. The very point of a controlled opposition is to look like you are working for a cause, but not actually doing anything of importance. Füllmich is almost doing the opposite.

For example, they could have easily come to the 'conclusion' that it's all about big pharma trying to make a buck. But they dug deep all the way to a possible depop agenda and world control.

I agree that it's unlikely they will be vindicated in a court of law anytime soon, but not trying at all seems defeatist. After all SOME verdicts have been overturned in the past (Portugal comes to mind, and here in Bavaria it was ruled that many restrictions of the past were illegal).

A judge in Weimar once made a landmark ruling in favor of critics and then was sacked by the system. It still had an impact because the regime actually had to show itself to get rid of the problem. (Search his property with armed police etc.)

If you never fight them, there will be no fight. And if there is no fight people will think noone is opposed to what is happening, so therefore it must be okay.

Maybe there are people on board trying to sabotage the organization, but I don't think it's all a front.

I could be wrong, I don't have a background in intelligence or law. But this is my impression.


edit: In an effort not to derail the thread I won't go any further into Füllmich. We could take that to the Lounge thread if you want.

Something about vaccines:

The myocarditis risk has even made it into the doctors offices of Germany! I asked my local MD and he said it's around 1:11000 on average. Meaning it's higher for young people and lower for the elderly.

Still he didn't have he balls to tell me I shouldn't take it. Instead he said I might be at risk because I used to smoke.

If 30-something year olds have to take a booster every 6 months for the rest of their lives, 1:11000 eventually turns into 1:120 in total. Roundabout. That's quite the gamble to avoid a flu-like disease with a 99,97% survival rate.
 
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There are prophecies of a catholic French mystic named Marie Julie Jahenny (1850-1941) that talks about times of great suffering coming soon with civil wars, world war, apostasy, pandemics, earthquakes, flood etc...
Those trying times according to her will be like none others in history of mankind. It will start in France with a civil war and will spread around the world.

Now that we're on prophecies, consider Our Lady of Akita. The Mother of God is reported to have said:

13 October 1973: "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres, churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the devil will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. The demon would be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer any pardon for them."

and

"As I told you, if people do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the Flood, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests."
 

M3B

Ostrich
Gold Member
As others have said, this is not true. I've followed Reiner Fuellmich on telegram for the best part of a year and watched a lot of his content.

He *is* working on something but not with those types of numbers, and he is proposing an international court.

I've no idea when or how or what, but he isn't "controlled opposition". A quick look into the previous high profile cases that he has worked on would show this.

He also gets censored a lot.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
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Note: VE = Vaccine Efficacy
 

Feyoder

Pelican

Oh man. I can’t even anymore. The goalposts are once again moving - embracing myocarditis now. All in an attempt to convince parents to vaccinate their kids.

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I think they rely on people to just read headlines / skim and see all the impressive looking graphs.

Vaccine related myocarditis causes no death? What a ridiculous lie.

The point of this graph is that for every 1 million children unnecessarily "vaxed" "just" 179 get myocarditis (that they're willing to admit). And those that got myocarditis didn't die but the unvaxed did die (from covid).

That one death caused by covid per 1 million children was of course due to obesity / some other obvious comorbidity or probably misattributed like we've seen. But still, even on its obviously lying face value: 1 death vs 179 cases of myocarditis and who knows what else in the future is a good thing? That's an obvious decision for a parent?
 

Alexander_English

Robin
Protestant
As others have said, this is not true. I've followed Reiner Fuellmich on telegram for the best part of a year and watched a lot of his content.

He *is* working on something but not with those types of numbers, and he is proposing an international court.

I've no idea when or how or what, but he isn't "controlled opposition". A quick look into the previous high profile cases that he has worked on would show this.

He also gets censored a lot.

Good to know. Part of why I posted was to get opinions on whether Fuellmich is real, and if this trial or anything like it is actually happening. I have a hard time believing anything I read from any source, anymore.

Even if it's just a few relatively unknown people staging a trial in front of a small audience somewhere, with no power to enforce a sentence, it's a good thing. Not that anything man can do alone will defeat this evil, but I'm happy to see real opposition of any kind. Sooner or later, when His purposes have been fulfilled, God will turn the tide and "the righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked. Mankind will say, 'Surely there is a reward for the righteous; surely there is a God who judges on earth.'"
 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Catholic

She does believe the passports are for a social credit system of sorts, and her background in finance gives a unique perspective as to the impetus.

In the interview she made reference to the fact that our civilization has operated on a “fiat” currency system for about 50 years. For the uninitiated, fiat currency is essentially currency not based in any hard or material resource — like gold — but is, according to Ciummei, “backed by nothing, it’s a currency because the government say it is.”

Fiat currencies historical last a matter of decades, and sometimes for less time than that. They have been tried numerous times all over the world and in different ages, and never seem to work in the long term. Governments tend to gravitate to them when they seek more control of the money supply, which allows them to manipulate purchasing power and cause various types of inflation, or hyperinflation.

While there are various reasons as to why someone would want to do this, it benefits the elites who control the money supply. During a time of hyperinflation — which we might be facing soon — the mega-billionaires are able to consolidate wealth by purchasing hard assets that survive financial collapse, such as the manufacturing of essential goods and farmland. When a fiat currency inevitably loses any real purchasing power, public confidence is irreparably eroded and usually some sort of unrest or revolution occurs.

Ciummei believes that the globalist elites are getting ahead of a potential collapse and using the virus as an excuse to coerce the masses into a passport system that prepares them for compliance with future social credit initiatives.

She views this period as a sort of practice period for further erosions on privacy and personal autonomy. “Everybody without exception has to buy into this. This is a new financial system,” she said.

This is because the new financial system could function with, according to Ciummei, “data as the new gold, energy as the new currency.”

It is for this reason that she believes they are coming after children with the experimental jabs, even though there is not a shred of evidence to suggest that children are at risk of COVID, and especially not to the degree that could warrant a new drug with major risks.
 

BillMcNeal

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Good news. The OSHA injunction on vaccine mandates has now been extended to fed government contractors:


EDIT: Apparently that was already the case for some of the country as of last week (see below), but now it applies to the entire country.
 
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Crazy88

Sparrow
Other Christian
Good news. The OSHA injunction on vaccine mandates has now been extended to fed government contractors:


EDIT: Apparently that was already the case for some of the country as of last week (see below), but now it applies to the entire country.
I have to admit I’ve been pleasantly surprised with some of the latest court decisions after some early defeats in which cases were either denied or rejected all together.

I’d lost hope that the courts are part of the same vaccine propaganda machine, but there might be a way out of these unlawful and unconstitutional mandates after all. If things drag out in courts long enough and more people wake up, these mandates may quietly go away. I feel bad for anyone who was forced to take the jab and/or lost their job, but if possible just keep delaying things as long as you can and see what happens.

Things may yet change in the coming months and the courts, including the SCOTUS may disappoint us, but for now I’m celebrating any victory we can get.
 

Ulysses K

Sparrow
Orthodox
Friends, I did some calculations. Sorry if this has already been addressed:

The European Union has a total population of about 447 million people.

Source:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/stati...e=Population_and_population_change_statistics

How many vaccine do you think the European Union has bought, all vaccines considered:

I'm basing these calculations on the completely transparent, two clicks away, official website of the EU, on the vaccination strategy that you can all read here:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work...esponse/public-health/eu-vaccines-strategy_en

"To date, 4 safe and effective vaccines against COVID-19 have been authorized by the Commission for use in the EU following positive scientific recommendations by the European Medicines Agency"

Namely:

PFIZER, MODERNA, JOHNSON & JOHNSON and ASTRAZENECA

Let's look at the numbers they give, for each vaccine, one by one.
How many doses have they actually bought so far, of each vaccine, up until now, according to them.

These are official numbers. Facts (assuming they aren't lying). Non debatable. Nobody can call this a conspiracy theory.

PFIZER

[...]
The Advance Purchase Agreement with BioNTech-Pfizer provided for the initial purchase of 200 million doses on behalf of all EU Member States, plus an option to purchase up to a further 100 million doses. On 15 December 2020, the Commission decided to purchase these 100 million additional doses.
[...]
On 20 May 2021, the European Commission signed a third contract with BioNTech-Pfizer. It reserves an additional 1.8 billion doses on behalf of all EU Member States, between end 2021 and 2023 (!!!!). It will allow for the purchase of 900 million doses of the current vaccine and of a vaccine adapted to variants (if necessary and if approved), with the option to purchase an additional 900 million doses.
[...]

TOTAL so far (if you agree with me)
200+100+1800= 3100 MILLION DOSES.

MODERNA

The Advance Purchase Agreement with Moderna provides for the initial purchase of 80 million doses on behalf of all EU Member States, plus an option to request up to a further 80 million doses. On 15 December 2020, the Commission decided to purchase these 80 million additional doses.

On 17 February 2021, the European Commission approved a second contract with Moderna, which provided for an additional purchase of 300 million doses (150 million in 2021 and an option to purchase an additional 150 million in 2022). On 22 June 2021, the Commission approved an amendment to the second contract for the activation of the 150 million optional additional doses in 2022.

TOTAL :
80+80+300 = 460 million doses (+150 million optional, not included)

ASTRAZENECA

No data available from this source. We know however they have bought many. If you guys want to add something here let me know.

JOHNSON & JOHNSON

With the conditional market authorization, Janssen will be able to deliver 200 million of their single dose COVID-19 vaccine to the EU starting in the second quarter of 2021. The contract, that was closed on 7 October 2020, allows Member States to purchase an additional 200 million doses.


200 + 200 = 400 million doses.

TOTAL all vaccines combined (without Astrazeneca)

3100 + 460 + 400 = 3960 million doses, total, for 447 million people in the EU. Counting all ages.

How many doses is that per person:

3960/447 = 8.85 doses per person, not counting in Astrazeneca and the optional 150 million Moderna doses.

Do you agree with these calculations? Please let me know if you've found a mistake.

One wonders why the EU has ordered 8+ doses per person. I wonder why.

I heard a greek monk say after an exorcism satan was forced by God to admit they wanted to shoot 7 darts into peoples bodies. 7 is a very very significant number. 7 days of the week, 7 sins, 777,77 (became 777.68 before closing)wall street crash on the holiday of the angels, in 2008...777 is also the jackpot in casinos...

These are just my thoughts. The numbers don't lie. Do you think they will waste all these doses? I don't think that is their intention.
 

Elipe

Pelican
Protestant
Good news. The OSHA injunction on vaccine mandates has now been extended to fed government contractors:


EDIT: Apparently that was already the case for some of the country as of last week (see below), but now it applies to the entire country.
I have to admit I’ve been pleasantly surprised with some of the latest court decisions after some early defeats in which cases were either denied or rejected all together.

I’d lost hope that the courts are part of the same vaccine propaganda machine, but there might be a way out of these unlawful and unconstitutional mandates after all. If things drag out in courts long enough and more people wake up, these mandates may quietly go away. I feel bad for anyone who was forced to take the jab and/or lost their job, but if possible just keep delaying things as long as you can and see what happens.

Things may yet change in the coming months and the courts, including the SCOTUS may disappoint us, but for now I’m celebrating any victory we can get.
This is a good reminder that even in the dark, high hallways of power, God continues to fight for the hearts and minds of men. Consider the example of Paul, who as Saul pursued and persecuted Christians with a ferocity and furor known by very, very few men in history. If even someone like Saul could be made into such a major, fruitful witness for Christ, how much more are the hearts of weak, effeminate judges and lawmakers of modern society pliant to God's work?
 

Belgrano

Ostrich
Gold Member

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States


Vaccines currently are the primary mitigation strategy to combat COVID-19 around the world. For instance, the narrative related to the ongoing surge of new cases in the United States (US) is argued to be driven by areas with low vaccination rates. A similar narrative also has been observed in countries, such as Germany and the United Kingdom. At the same time, Israel that was hailed for its swift and high rates of vaccination has also seen a substantial resurgence in COVID-19 cases. We investigate the relationship between the percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases across 68 countries and across 2947 counties in the US.

At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days. In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.

Across the US counties too, the median new COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people in the last 7 days is largely similar across the categories of percent population fully vaccinated. Notably there is also substantial county variation in new COVID-19 cases within categories of percentage population fully vaccinated. There also appears to be no significant signaling of COVID-19 cases decreasing with higher percentages of population fully vaccinated.

Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4 of them as “High” Transmission counties. Chattahoochee (Georgia), McKinley (New Mexico), and Arecibo (Puerto Rico) counties have above 90% of their population fully vaccinated with all three being classified as “High” transmission.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39%, substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96%. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus.

Who wrote this paper?

A certain S. V. Subramanian - Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies, Cambridge, MA USA, as well as Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Boston, MA USA.

Seems credible.
 
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Zep

Pelican
Other Christian

doodydota

Sparrow
Catholic
Friends, I did some calculations. Sorry if this has already been addressed:

The European Union has a total population of about 447 million people.

Source:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/stati...e=Population_and_population_change_statistics

How many vaccine do you think the European Union has bought, all vaccines considered:

I'm basing these calculations on the completely transparent, two clicks away, official website of the EU, on the vaccination strategy that you can all read here:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work...esponse/public-health/eu-vaccines-strategy_en

"To date, 4 safe and effective vaccines against COVID-19 have been authorized by the Commission for use in the EU following positive scientific recommendations by the European Medicines Agency"

Namely:

PFIZER, MODERNA, JOHNSON & JOHNSON and ASTRAZENECA

Let's look at the numbers they give, for each vaccine, one by one.
How many doses have they actually bought so far, of each vaccine, up until now, according to them.

These are official numbers. Facts (assuming they aren't lying). Non debatable. Nobody can call this a conspiracy theory.

PFIZER

[...]
The Advance Purchase Agreement with BioNTech-Pfizer provided for the initial purchase of 200 million doses on behalf of all EU Member States, plus an option to purchase up to a further 100 million doses. On 15 December 2020, the Commission decided to purchase these 100 million additional doses.
[...]
On 20 May 2021, the European Commission signed a third contract with BioNTech-Pfizer. It reserves an additional 1.8 billion doses on behalf of all EU Member States, between end 2021 and 2023 (!!!!). It will allow for the purchase of 900 million doses of the current vaccine and of a vaccine adapted to variants (if necessary and if approved), with the option to purchase an additional 900 million doses.
[...]

TOTAL so far (if you agree with me)
200+100+1800= 3100 MILLION DOSES.

MODERNA

The Advance Purchase Agreement with Moderna provides for the initial purchase of 80 million doses on behalf of all EU Member States, plus an option to request up to a further 80 million doses. On 15 December 2020, the Commission decided to purchase these 80 million additional doses.

On 17 February 2021, the European Commission approved a second contract with Moderna, which provided for an additional purchase of 300 million doses (150 million in 2021 and an option to purchase an additional 150 million in 2022). On 22 June 2021, the Commission approved an amendment to the second contract for the activation of the 150 million optional additional doses in 2022.

TOTAL :
80+80+300 = 460 million doses (+150 million optional, not included)

ASTRAZENECA

No data available from this source. We know however they have bought many. If you guys want to add something here let me know.

JOHNSON & JOHNSON

With the conditional market authorization, Janssen will be able to deliver 200 million of their single dose COVID-19 vaccine to the EU starting in the second quarter of 2021. The contract, that was closed on 7 October 2020, allows Member States to purchase an additional 200 million doses.


200 + 200 = 400 million doses.

TOTAL all vaccines combined (without Astrazeneca)

3100 + 460 + 400 = 3960 million doses, total, for 447 million people in the EU. Counting all ages.

How many doses is that per person:

3960/447 = 8.85 doses per person, not counting in Astrazeneca and the optional 150 million Moderna doses.

Do you agree with these calculations? Please let me know if you've found a mistake.

One wonders why the EU has ordered 8+ doses per person. I wonder why.

I heard a greek monk say after an exorcism satan was forced by God to admit they wanted to shoot 7 darts into peoples bodies. 7 is a very very significant number. 7 days of the week, 7 sins, 777,77 (became 777.68 before closing)wall street crash on the holiday of the angels, in 2008...777 is also the jackpot in casinos...

These are just my thoughts. The numbers don't lie. Do you think they will waste all these doses? I don't think that is their intention.

Fantastic job! Didn't run the math, but the numbers are there in plain sight for everyone to see.
 
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