Coronavirus vaccine thread

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Catholic
Wow that was good. That is UK Sky News too. That politician was not ready for that, no prepared script to go by and so he insults the intelligence of a good hard working, knowledgeable Doctor in the last sentence.
I agree with the Doctor. Here where I work in Australia staff are now getting positive tests (after developing symptoms) and sent home, I have not experienced this so close yet, I assume it is Omicron and hope to get it soon myself. I am not afraid, in fact I am a little excited and I know that sounds crazy and reckless but bring it, I want the antibodies now. I will never get the mRNA tech vaccines.

Natural immunity still isn’t being recognized by most governments or employers.

So you want the antibodies to protect yourself from future scariants?
Historically, these viruses have become weaker over time so who cares about having natural immunity if each season produces a weaker virus.
I know people that are getting infected more than once now. So this is starting to become more like a seasonal common cold in which past immunity really doesn’t mean much.
And if you are already a low risk of death in the first place then who cares. This isn’t like chicken pox with a one and done situation.
 

SpyofMoses

Robin
Protestant
For what it's worth to the flu vs. cold debate, I will quote my old Pathology teacher:

"There are a number of viruses that cause the flu and the cold beyond the Influenza and the Rhinovirus respectively, but they've all got such similar symptoms we've just lumped them together as 'the flu and 'the cold'."

This is what I think back to whenever people bring up the Coronavirus and it's variants. Natural immunity is not even a guarantee in and of itself because these types of viruses mutate too fast. They also mutate too fast for any vaccine to keep up with. Thus there is a far greater risk with the vaccine than with catching a case of the virus itself, since the vaccine has side effects a natural case of the 'rona won't have.
 

Nomadiccat

 
Banned
Oriental Orthodox
For what it's worth to the flu vs. cold debate, I will quote my old Pathology teacher:

"There are a number of viruses that cause the flu and the cold beyond the Influenza and the Rhinovirus respectively, but they've all got such similar symptoms we've just lumped them together as 'the flu and 'the cold'."
There're about 200 viruses that cause common cold alone.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member

BBC News “forgot” to tell you that official data shows the Triple/Double Vaccinated accounted for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 Deaths in December​


The ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – 2022 – Week 1’ was published by the UK Health Security Agency (formerly Public Health England) on Thursday 6th January 2022, and it shows that the vast majority of Covid-19 cases between 6th Dec 21 and 2nd Jan 22 were among the fully vaccinated population.

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hkhathaj

Kingfisher
Other Christian

BBC News “forgot” to tell you that official data shows the Triple/Double Vaccinated accounted for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 Deaths in December​

I can easily believe that the vax effectiveness is negative.

But this data presented in this article is totally useless. It measures Covid "cases" which are data by PCR test which is fake. It also does not control for age and existing illnesses. When you measure noise only then there will be no substance in the results.

We have to count hospitalization and death and also control for age and existing illness (before taking the vax) to have some useful data. Everything else can be misleading. We have to have standards against articles that seemingly support our points.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member
I can easily believe that the vax effectiveness is negative.

But this data presented in this article is totally useless. It measures Covid "cases" which are data by PCR test which is fake. It also does not control for age and existing illnesses. When you measure noise only then there will be no substance in the results.

We have to count hospitalization and death and also control for age and existing illness (before taking the vax) to have some useful data. Everything else can be misleading. We have to have standards against articles that seemingly support our points.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1045329/Vaccine_surveillance_report_week_1_2022.pdf

Unless someone can detail specifically otherwise.
The article refers to "official" data.
As such.
If the "official" data points to a negative outcome. That is rather telling...
 

Floriduhman

Pigeon
Protestant
I never expected the vax to kill many, not right away.

It'd be too obvious for them to kill many quick.
Even going by the official numbers, it'd killed more in 2021 than all vaxxes in all other years of vaccinations in US history combined. And that's by the official numbers which are doctored (around 20K), the real death toll is a lot higher.

Anyway, I think they don't want to off people right away,

There's no accountability over what's inside mRNA, these sequences are not disclosed.
I do think they're after depopulation, at the end, and getting the population down to 500M-1B but I think they're going to be either more subtle about or just very quick, when they get to that point. Big hoopla with vaxx doesn't make sense for quick depopulation, too much noise.
You said you don't believe that they'd do that, but you also admit it's apparently happening. Two possibilities:

A. They made some mistakes (I mean, seriously, how much experience do even the most evil mad scientist medical personnel have at engineering a predictable, slow killing off of the population via vaccines?) Most eventually successful processes/innovations previously involved mistakes, failures, and refinements.

B. They actually did intend to create the health issues/deaths quickly to, at least in part, prompt the dismay and uprising of the betrayed hoi polloi so they could justify escalating martial responses which could hasten the implementation of their ultimate totalitarian wet dreams.
 

Floriduhman

Pigeon
Protestant

BBC News “forgot” to tell you that official data shows the Triple/Double Vaccinated accounted for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 Deaths in December​


The ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – 2022 – Week 1’ was published by the UK Health Security Agency (formerly Public Health England) on Thursday 6th January 2022, and it shows that the vast majority of Covid-19 cases between 6th Dec 21 and 2nd Jan 22 were among the fully vaccinated population.

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This graph paints an even worse picture than they are letting on. Last I heard, roughly a third of the UK population was unvaccinated. That means the effectiveness parity would be merely double the death rate of natural herd immunity. At TRIPLE the death rate, vaccination/booster actually SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES the risk of death FROM THE VIRUS.

There should be hardcopies of this printed out and graffitied everywhere.
 

hkhathaj

Kingfisher
Other Christian
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1045329/Vaccine_surveillance_report_week_1_2022.pdf

Unless someone can detail specifically otherwise.
The article refers to "official" data.
As such.
If the "official" data points to a negative outcome. That is rather telling...
Without controlling for age and existing illness the conclusion is not valid in itself. This is a valid concern of our enemies. My issue is that there are these sensational articles that suggest to prove that he vax is bad but when you dig into the details they don't prove anything because of these errors in the method of analysing data.

Don't take me wrong, I also think that the vax is bad for people but I want to see proof that is valid in itself.

Old people and people with chronic illness tend to be vaccinated in higher numbers and that skews the data. That should be taken into account when making these statistics. We don't need to convince ourselves but we have to convince normies. We need proper statistics.
 

Nomadiccat

 
Banned
Oriental Orthodox
Does anyone know of the study she is referring to? -- Yes from the experts.

That's how you know its truth. Science!
All that, constant regurgitating of bogus "studies" on boosters, spike proteins, speed of spreading, data-schmata, common cold "virus" dangers...it's called "schizophrenia" and "smoke screens". Whole completely non-sensical microcosm created around something that is fake.
 

GuitarVH

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
My company is now acquiring enough tests for TWICE WEEKLY TESTING for every employee.

Meaningless, inaccurate tests that prove literally nothing in regards to diagnosing illness of any kind.

Human beings will arbitrarily be deemed guilty for possessing normal biological processes and have rights arbitrarily removed, suspended and violated.

Medical tyranny with no end in sight.
 
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