Coronavirus vaccine thread

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member

Make sure you include a link to show the entire thread. Otherwise, everybody is going to assume the screenshot is fake. Anyone can create a fake screenshot image and manipulate the text.

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doctorweedmd

Sparrow
Orthodox Catechumen
Thanks for sharing. It's a shame that his Twitter has been deleted and he can't easily be asked about these previous positions. It's possible he has changed tune which is one of the reasons he's been cancelled. Even if he still holds these positions, it doesn't take away from the interview or make it less valid.
It's not his previous position. It's still his current position. Here's his most recent OP-ed where he calls for vaccinating elderly.



Yes, it's great that he thinks the young and middle aged shouldnt be vaxxed. But why would anyone think if that's the case, then it would be ok to jab grandpa, who is even more at risk of suffering heart issues than the ones above? Clearly the at risk and elderly are just as much risk if not more at risk of getting injured by a vax than the rest of the population.

I understand the "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" outlook for Malone. Just be careful he is not pulling a bait and switch to make bucks on his own questionable vaccine.
 

jollycynic

Sparrow
Protestant
It's not his previous position. It's still his current position. Here's his most recent OP-ed where he calls for vaccinating elderly.



Yes, it's great that he thinks the young and middle aged shouldnt be vaxxed. But why would anyone think if that's the case, then it would be ok to jab grandpa, who is even more at risk of suffering heart issues than the ones above? Clearly the at risk and elderly are just as much risk if not more at risk of getting injured by a vax than the rest of the population.

I understand the "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" outlook for Malone. Just be careful he is not pulling a bait and switch to make bucks on his own questionable vaccine.

There is actually some logic behind vaxxing the elderly only. The risk to reward ratio makes more sense in that age bracket for one. Additionally, since the problems like heart disease after the shot are believed to be immune reactions, they wouldn't impact the elderly nearly as much, given their immune systems are less robust.

Assuming you weren't concerned about the use of fetal stem cells in the development, it would be a very sensible proposal.
 
Yes, it's great that he thinks the young and middle aged shouldnt be vaxxed. But why would anyone think if that's the case, then it would be ok to jab grandpa, who is even more at risk of suffering heart issues than the ones above? Clearly the at risk and elderly are just as much risk if not more at risk of getting injured by a vax than the rest of the population.
TO my knowledge the younger you are the greater your risk for heart vax sides.
 

droughtmeat

Kingfisher
Catholic
Yes, I think the idea is that the heart issues are linked to strenuous physical activity, but even that is merely an assumption, because no one has really investigated the topic. Soccer players have been dropping like flies, while basketball players haven't. So is the critical threshold the amount of km you run or long distance sprints you do?

To be fair, does anyone really know what effects the normal influenza virus has or would have on the younger, healthy population or any cohort for that matter, if taken every 3 to 6 months the way it is being done with this experimental gene therapy? There's no rationale for any of this.
 

ItalianStallion9

Woodpecker
Protestant
I'm not one to buy into the 2 party scam, but it's obvious which party affiliation is against freedom at this point:


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Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Make sure you include a link to show the entire thread. Otherwise, everybody is going to assume the screenshot is fake. Anyone can create a fake screenshot image and manipulate the text.

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Could it be that he's in the, what I call, in between camp? In between the normies and those who've broken out of the matrix. In other words, he sees what's going on is not right, but he still believes there is corona, therefore he comes up with some alternative to combat the perceived problem. Not all people who don't portray the bottom of the rabbit hole necessarily have to be fakers and grifters.
 

Elipe

Pelican
Protestant
Could it be that he's in the, what I call, in between camp? In between the normies and those who've broken out of the matrix. In other words, he sees what's going on is not right, but he still believes there is corona, therefore he comes up with some alternative to combat the perceived problem. Not all people who don't portray the bottom of the rabbit hole necessarily have to be fakers and grifters.
Keep in mind, he's still a doctor. He thinks like a doctor. He probably didn't think of it as anything nefarious or that could be interpreted as nefarious.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Keep in mind, he's still a doctor. He thinks like a doctor. He probably didn't think of it as anything nefarious or that could be interpreted as nefarious.
Exactly that's my point. Too often I see people say that someone's a shill or insider when they utter like 70% of the truth instead of 100%, but just not everybody has reached a depth of understanding like many of us here. So I think we should be a bit careful on that front.
 

doctorweedmd

Sparrow
Orthodox Catechumen
There is actually some logic behind vaxxing the elderly only.
I don't believe the logic holds any water.

There have been indeed a significant amount of elderly and at-risk people being injured from the vax. I don't think it's heard about as much because the amount of healthy people being injured as well is more out-of-the-ordinary.

Norway warns frail patients over 80 of vaccine risks after deaths​




46 Nursing Home Residents in Spain Die Within 1 Month of Getting Pfizer COVID Vaccine​



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source: https://www.unite4truth.com/post/ma...reat-next-phase-covid-plan-under-hero-s-guise


The inherent risk is real and evident, but what exactly are the rewards for the elderly being vaxxed? Apparently the vaccines are 95% or whatever effective (relative risk reduction not absolute risk reduction) at merely reducing up to ONE symptom. That's it.

How much more effective would something like Vitamin D or Nyquil be at reducing symptoms? That's something the vax industry would rather not answer.

In fact the so-called efficacy for the elderly may be far less than the headline numbers: https://physiciansforinformedconsen...5/Moderna-COVID-19-Vaccine-Risk-Statement.pdf
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
I'm not one to buy into the 2 party scam, but it's obvious which party affiliation is against freedom at this point:


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At this point no one can convince me the left isn't made up a bunch of people with mental illness.
 

GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
I'm not one to buy into the 2 party scam, but it's obvious which party affiliation is against freedom at this point:


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These questions would not be asked if they weren't planning to do this.

Very disturbing.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
I'm not one to buy into the 2 party scam, but it's obvious which party affiliation is against freedom at this point:


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People who fall for any leftist ideology, whether it's feminism, socialism, communism, multiculturalism, have left any sense of reality. Leftism as an ideology is anti-truth. The further you're on the leftist spectrum, factually the further you are from basic realities such as gender roles and big truth claims such as Christ and God. So with that being the case, obviously they fall for every tiny aspect of the scam that's happening now.
 

Nomadiccat

Robin
Oriental Orthodox
I'm not one to buy into the 2 party scam, but it's obvious which party affiliation is against freedom at this point:


True. Though even this "survey" is most likely faked, this reminds me of survey by WEF finding that
"most employees support vax requirement to work" - this was announced early in their vax campaign when most weren't even vaxed.
It's like saying that survey had found that most prisoners support harsher prison rules, or "most criminals support longer prison sentences" :laughter:
 

Gerrardo115

Chicken
Non-Christian
My country is mandating the poison for entry. Since I already had covid and recovered what use is that vaxx? Any idea which country in Europe where you can get a legit Vax certificate signed by a doctor? money under table! disgraceful that they don't accept natural antibodies only synthetic fake vaccine ones.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
"Killshots in Canada"
The devil, as always, can be detected in the details:

The Covid vaccines look worse and worse.

A reader has pointed out an amazing dataset from the province of Alberta, Canada which reports Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths by day after the first and second vaccine doses.

Infections, hospitalizations, and deaths from Covid all soar in the days and weeks after people receive their first vaccine dose.


The charts make it completely obvious why the definition of “unvaccinated” was stretched to include “those who have been vaccinated in the last 14 days”. Most of the “unvaccinated” who are now infected with Covid were actually vaccinated, they’ve just been redefined as not having received the vaxxes with which they have, in fact, been injected.


Via Alex Berenson, "Covid infections and deaths SOAR after the first vaccine dose"
Stunning figures from Canada show a huge spike in cases after vaccinations; to the Centers for Disease Control and the media, all these deaths are occurring in the "unvaccinated."

The Covid vaccines look worse and worse.

A reader has pointed out an amazing dataset from the province of Alberta, Canada which reports Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths by day after the first and second vaccine doses.

Infections, hospitalizations, and deaths from Covid all soar in the days and weeks after people receive their first vaccine dose.

Hospitalizations:
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Deaths:
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Alberta has about 4.4 million people, so this sample is not small. The vast majority of vaccines given in the province are the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, though about 10 percent are the DNA/AAV vaccines, mostly from AstraZeneca, which is not used in the United States.

The figures further support the national-level data from Israel and Britain, which last year saw Covid deaths hit all-time highs just after they began mass vaccination campaigns.

The chart below tracks Covid deaths in the United Kingdom, which peaked in January 2021, just after Britain began vaccinating elderly people. At the time, the United Kingdom suffered about 1,200 Covid deaths per day, the highest per-capita total any big country has ever seen, the equivalent of about 6,000 daily deaths in the United States.

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Vaccine advocates tried to dismiss those deaths as the result of a preexisting winter Covid wave in Britain (though other European countries such as France and Spain did not faces similarly large surges).

That excuse cannot be used for Alberta. Canada’s vaccination campaign began relatively late, and nearly all of it took place after the winter 2020-2021 Covid spike. Through mid-February 2021, barely 2 percent of Alberta residents had received their first dose.

The most likely explanation for the spike was and remains that the first dose of the vaccines transiently suppresses the immune system, as Pfizer’s own clinical trial data reveal.

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FULL PAPER:

But no need to worry, vaccine companies.

Under the counting rules used by American public health authorities and media outlets, all these deaths and infections are counted and reported as having occurred in unvaccinated people.
 
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