Coronavirus vaccine thread

SeaEagle

Robin
Catholic
"Killshots in Canada"



Via Alex Berenson, "Covid infections and deaths SOAR after the first vaccine dose"

Playing devil's advocate here:

Due to no visible data before the first injection, couldn't one assume the spike was there before the injection and only falls after immunity is built?
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
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C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
People who fall for any leftist ideology, whether it's feminism, socialism, communism, multiculturalism, have left any sense of reality. Leftism as an ideology is anti-truth. The further you're on the leftist spectrum, factually the further you are from basic realities such as gender roles and big truth claims such as Christ and God. So with that being the case, obviously they fall for every tiny aspect of the scam that's happening now.
Leftist ideology is attractive to people with authoritarian impulses. They want to force people to behave a certain way, or make certain choices. They have various reasons for being authoritarian, but the main reason is because of their yawning insecurity because of their hatred for their fathers. Hating your father seems to make many susceptible to being subject to the whims of their emotions, constantly trying to fill their gaping emotional insecurities by bringing the rest of humanity down to their level of misery. One of the reasons that socialists, leftists, and communists denigrate the family unit is to try to make people hate their fathers, so that they can be manipulated into accepting authoritarian political ideologies and orthodoxies. The father is a holy position, both earthly and heavenly, and that's why demons hate the fathers.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
I don't believe the logic holds any water.

There have been indeed a significant amount of elderly and at-risk people being injured from the vax. I don't think it's heard about as much because the amount of healthy people being injured as well is more out-of-the-ordinary.

Norway warns frail patients over 80 of vaccine risks after deaths​




46 Nursing Home Residents in Spain Die Within 1 Month of Getting Pfizer COVID Vaccine​



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The inherent risk is real and evident, but what exactly are the rewards for the elderly being vaxxed? Apparently the vaccines are 95% or whatever effective (relative risk reduction not absolute risk reduction) at merely reducing up to ONE symptom. That's it.

How much more effective would something like Vitamin D or Nyquil be at reducing symptoms? That's something the vax industry would rather not answer.

In fact the so-called efficacy for the elderly may be far less than the headline numbers: https://physiciansforinformedconsen...5/Moderna-COVID-19-Vaccine-Risk-Statement.pdf
My 82 year old Dad started having strokes right after taking the clot shot, and died of a massive stroke recently. Who can say if his strokes were caused by the clot shot? Nobody can prove it either way. All I know is that his strokes started right after the first clot shot.

My mother had the same shots, and is alive so far. Would she be at greater risk if she actually got Covid? What about my dad? If he didn't take the clot shot, and got Covid, would he be better off? Only God can say.

I haven't been vaxxed but all my extended family has. However, I can't say that it would be better for my 80 something year old parents to get the coof than to suffer the side effects of the vax. I suspect the coof could have been hard on my Dad as well, and could be hard on my Mom if she gets it anyway.

All I'm saying is that it may be justified for older people to take the risk of taking the clot shot. However, it's a real risk, and it's not an easy or obvious decision. I can't say in any given case which is right or wrong. For anyone younger, or even older but in vigorous health, I'd say don't take it. For someone older, it's more of a question, but it's still a real risk to take it. It would suck to turn it down and then die from Covid, but it would suck to take it, then start having mini-strokes right away, followed by the big one like my Dad had.
 

doctorweedmd

Sparrow
Orthodox Catechumen
My 82 year old Dad started having strokes right after taking the clot shot, and died of a massive stroke recently. Who can say if his strokes were caused by the clot shot? Nobody can prove it either way. All I know is that his strokes started right after the first clot shot.

My mother had the same shots, and is alive so far. Would she be at greater risk if she actually got Covid? What about my dad? If he didn't take the clot shot, and got Covid, would he be better off? Only God can say.

I haven't been vaxxed but all my extended family has. However, I can't say that it would be better for my 80 something year old parents to get the coof than to suffer the side effects of the vax. I suspect the coof could have been hard on my Dad as well, and could be hard on my Mom if she gets it anyway.

All I'm saying is that it may be justified for older people to take the risk of taking the clot shot. However, it's a real risk, and it's not an easy or obvious decision. I can't say in any given case which is right or wrong. For anyone younger, or even older but in vigorous health, I'd say don't take it. For someone older, it's more of a question, but it's still a real risk to take it. It would suck to turn it down and then die from Covid, but it would suck to take it, then start having mini-strokes right away, followed by the big one like my Dad had.
Everyone needs to realize that the shot has NOT been proven to prevent death, hospitalization, or even infection. The constant media gaslighting is taking its toll...

There are tons of alternative remedies any elderly person can take that are just as effective at reducing symptoms without all the insane side effects.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Other Christian
Gold Member
Leftist ideology is attractive to people with authoritarian impulses. They want to force people to behave a certain way, or make certain choices. They have various reasons for being authoritarian, but the main reason is because of their yawning insecurity because of their hatred for their fathers. Hating your father seems to make many susceptible to being subject to the whims of their emotions, constantly trying to fill their gaping emotional insecurities by bringing the rest of humanity down to their level of misery. One of the reasons that socialists, leftists, and communists denigrate the family unit is to try to make people hate their fathers, so that they can be manipulated into accepting authoritarian political ideologies and orthodoxies. The father is a holy position, both earthly and heavenly, and that's why demons hate the fathers.

While many if not most Soycialists are the way they are due to weak fathers.

It's also their inherent self-loathing & internal misery.
Whereby they want to drag everyone else down to their sorry, miserable level.

Another reason for the Soycialist inclination to denigrate & destroy everything.
 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Catholic
Everyone needs to realize that the shot has NOT been proven to prevent death, hospitalization, or even infection. The constant media gaslighting is taking its toll...

There are tons of alternative remedies any elderly person can take that are just as effective at reducing symptoms without all the insane side effects.
It’s quite opposite in that the ONLY thing it was “proven” to do was decrease hospitalizations and severe infections, so he’s not wrong.
 

William Faulkner

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I'm just thinking out loud here but what if the experimental injections (aka 'vaccinations') are created in such a way as to spread to the unjabbed? The rates of myocarditis, pericarditis, and heart attacks seem to appear to be through the roof although it is quite difficult to discern who's numbers to trust when you are living in psychological, information (warfare) "live exercise." Within the decade they could easily cull the herd. I think that I have actually read about the studies on self spreading "vaccinations"...
 

William Faulkner

Woodpecker
Orthodox
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One would assume that the media and entertainment industry would understand the true nature of what is actually happening regarding the experimental mRNA injections. From what I can tell the multi millionaire media/entertainment types aren't exactly in the know. This is a top down billionaire revolution. Multi millionaires are apparently cannon fodder just like the guy working 12 hour shifts delivering packages. They don't discriminate! Imagine what they think of the useless eaters that struggle to reach even a six figure salary in their lifetime and attempt to live what used to be the so called American Dream? Home ownership, children, job security, unwavering faith in long ago founded societal institutions, liberty, and freedom do not appear to be part of this so called "fourth industrial revolution."
 

newboie

 
Banned
Non-Christian
Which vaccines are available near you/what do you think is safer?
We have a choice between a vaccine developed from a mutated chimpanzee virus or the old fashioned one wherein there's a dead or weakened virus that builds up the same antibodies as the deadlier live virus.
Teenagers getting vaccinated are only allowed to take the old fashioned one. Go figure.
As for safety, I personally would go for the old fashioned one as vaccine mandates are becoming necessary even for basic tasks, so this thing is better than any of that mRNA/chimpanzee stuff
 

Carter Brink

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
We have a choice between a vaccine developed from a mutated chimpanzee virus or the old fashioned one wherein there's a dead or weakened virus that builds up the same antibodies as the deadlier live virus.
Teenagers getting vaccinated are only allowed to take the old fashioned one. Go figure.
As for safety, I personally would go for the old fashioned one as vaccine mandates are becoming necessary even for basic tasks, so this thing is better than any of that mRNA/chimpanzee stuff
Do you believe that there is a pandemic?
 

ViatoremColognia

Sparrow
Jewish
We have a choice between a vaccine developed from a mutated chimpanzee virus or the old fashioned one wherein there's a dead or weakened virus that builds up the same antibodies as the deadlier live virus.
Teenagers getting vaccinated are only allowed to take the old fashioned one. Go figure.
As for safety, I personally would go for the old fashioned one as vaccine mandates are becoming necessary even for basic tasks, so this thing is better than any of that mRNA/chimpanzee stuff
Dude, you are glowing so bad, I had to put on my sunglasses.
 

Nomadiccat

 
Banned
Oriental Orthodox

"Fatique and muscle soreness" before dying from the vax, huh? These are the main symptoms of "omicron" hoax, according to them, so no wonder they picked those. There're articles being thrown into the media that the coof causes "strokes" in young people now.
I guess the main symptom of the next "variant" will be: myocarditis.

They openly admit of their plans to inject people every 4 months, but worried about killing people off too fast and fueling resistance

 
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