Covid-19 is/was the common flu (Theory)

Aldebaran

Robin
Protestant
So, I’ve written before that I think that Convid was nothing but the flu all along. The official narrative is of course that the flu magically disappeared for two years and was replaced by an illness which is exactly like the flu (only a bit worse). This story is just plain ridiculous.

Of course, we were told there are many differences between Convid and the flu, and many still believe it even in this forum. I’ll address this and try to debunk the objections.

Why start the hoax?

Many interests align here. China needed an excuse to shut down the Hong Kong-protests without having another Tiananmen square massacre + vastly expand the security state.

The Pharma industry/Bill Gates wanted to make billions of dollars.

Big corporations wanted to destroy the small business sector (and make billions of dollars).

The tech industry wanted to make billions of dollars.

Media companies wanted to make billions of dollars.

Governments/politicians wanted more power and to censor dissidents (and make billions of dollars).

Was it planned and coordinated from the start between all of them? Very unlikely. But they all found each other in common interest as things progressed.

It begins:

In 2019 and 2020 there were major protests in Hong Kong, because China wanted to destroy the democracy movement there (ironically it was forbidden to wear a mask in Hong Kong during this time). This was bad PR for China, and they needed to crush the dissidents without a major loss of life.

Suddenly there started to come out videos of people dropping dead in the streets of China, images of overcrowded hospitals, and stories of desperate “doctors” trying to warn the world of a terrible tragedy unfolding. All this was of course fake and orchestrated by the CCP.

But because of this, China naturally had to take unprecedented action and shut down their country. For everyone’s “safety”. Even the protesters in Hong Kong had to respect that. And so they stayed at home, while they were arrested one by one without anyone noticing or caring.

How and if this ties together with Event 201, I naturally don’t know. We all know about the pandemic exercise hosted by Bill Gates and the WEF in 2019. Did China coordinate their “pandemic” with them, or were they operating independent of each other? Who knows. All we can tell for sure is that the China situation gave Bill Gates and the WHO/WEF a perfect opportunity to put their plans into practice.

Perhaps China also recognized an opportunity to seriously damage the West and the USA. If so, they surely succeeded far beyond their wildest expectations.

It spreads:

By January/February of 2020 all the world had learned about the “terrible” situation in China and of the new disease called “Covid-19”.

As the flu season started in Italy, like it does every year, Chinese officials managed to persuade Italian officials that they were in fact dealing with this novel disease, and not the regular flu that comes every single year. And they also managed to persuade Italian officials to adapt their treatment of the disease. This innovative treatment was to not to treat the illness as a flu under any circumstances. And also, aggressive use of sedatives and ventilators.

This is of course the most irrational, backwards and harmful way to treat the illness conceivable. And because of this treatment regime, lots of patients started dying. Which in turn persuaded people into believing that they were in fact dealing with a new and deadly disease. This again made Italy the first country to follow the Chinese example of lockdowns. And the people actually wanted it and begged for it.

The stupidity is astounding.

Thanks to the situation in Italy, the whole of Europe and the US shut down in turn – convinced about the deadliness of this new virus. The same incredibly harmful treatment regime as in Italy was adapted all over the western world. As the flu spread (as it does every year) people were denied regular treatment/medication and forced onto ventilators which harmed and killed thousands upon thousands of people.

We all know the rest of the story.

But I and/or people I know got very sick!

Yes, the flu is no joke. And factor in that we were told relentlessly that the disease is extremely deadly and harmful. And that we had to isolate and quarantine from other people for weeks on end. And that we were not allowed any treatment (except going to the hospital and being put on a ventilator). The psychological effect was devastating even for the most sceptic and resilient.

But I lost my sense of smell!

Yes, that is not uncommon with the flu. And with this particular flu it was probably more common than usual.

But it came from a lab!

No, it didn’t. That story was only pushed into the mainstream after the U.S. establishment decided that China is an enemy, and that the story it would fit into that narrative. Before this the very same establishment viciously mocked and censored anyone who made such a claim.

But the tests!

Please. Don’t get me started. Now they are even doing combined covid/flu-tests. Since it’s the same disease.


So yeah. Those are my personal thoughts and reflections. Not to be confused with actual and definite facts. Feel free to debate and point out things that I may have missed.
 

Aboulia

Kingfisher
Orthodox
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king bast

Woodpecker
Protestant
I disagree. While covid stats certainly absorbed all cases of the common cold/flu, the sicknesses I've suffered since are not like the colds I used to get. And no, Im not jabbed.
Another point I disagree on, is that the scheme was chinese in origin. Simply, it was far too central to the democrats presidential election strategy to be a coincidence. This is an american project.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
I think you are largely correct. New flu strains come out nearly every year, and some of them are coronaviruses, so this is just typical.

Some flu strains are worse than others. Swine flu was very deadly. This seems to have been about three times more deadly than a typical bad flu. It's no Ebola, but it does kill more people with multiple existing co-morbidities. Ordinary flu does the same thing, but I think Covid did it at a higher rate. Even if it doesn't kill, it can also make people very sick. I know quite a few that were in the hospital with it.

I do think it was man made. I think that US funded gain-of-function research created the strain that got loose, or was released. In some ways, this doesn't matter, because it was only moderately bad, and there have been far worse natural flu strains.

I think the vaccine is completely ineffective and fraudulent, and I think the lockdowns were completely unjustified. Not only unjustified, I don't think they had any impact on the spread anyway, and the same with mask mandates. That was all just a totalitarian wet dream, and completely unjustified and immoral.

TL; DR Yes, it's really just the common flu.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
While much of the positive tests were the flu and much of what we saw around COVID and the jabs was about communism, control, and profits, and probably worse with the vaccines themselves, there was something floating around which was not the flu.

My wife and I both had it. It felt bioengineered. It felt synthetic. It felt different. The way it hit us, same exact symptoms, it attacked parts of our body like no other illness we ever had. Again, it just felt entirely different. The headaches. The way it hit the musculoskeletal system.
 

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
While much of the positive tests were the flu and much of what we saw around COVID and the jabs was about communism, control, and profits, and probably worse with the vaccines themselves, there was something floating around which was not the flu.

My wife and I both had it. It felt bioengineered. It felt synthetic. It felt different. The way it hit us, same exact symptoms, it attacked parts of our body like no other illness we ever had. Again, it just felt entirely different. The headaches. The way it hit the musculoskeletal system.
"It felt bioengineered. It felt synthetic."

I apologize for questioning a fellow RVF'er but I can't for the life of me comprehend how any illness can cause those types of feelings.

And I had the bloody thing in Feb 2020 and it was a weird cold but "Bioengineered" and "Synthetic"? Hmmmmmm.......
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
"It felt bioengineered. It felt synthetic."

I apologize for questioning a fellow RVF'er but I can't for the life of me comprehend how any illness can cause those types of feelings.

And I had the bloody thing in Feb 2020 and it was a weird cold but "Bioengineered" and "Synthetic"? Hmmmmmm.......
I thought the same thing when I had it. It had a different feeling from being sick as I was used to. I mean, I felt icky, that nasty sick feeling, but the sensation was different, like a different flavor of being sick, to stretch a metaphor.

It's like the difference between taking LSD and mushrooms, not that I recommend either. Mushrooms feel natural, and LSD feels synthetic. On a more mundane level, I think you can see some of that in the difference between distilled liquor and fermented beer or wine.

I still think that in spite of being synthetic, it was just a coronavirus that had genetic modifications designed to make it target humans better. That's still the flu in my book.
 

RedLagoon

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
All I know is that I was in contact with thousands of people during covid lockdown due to my occupation and had a flu-ish tipe of infection for 2 days. Not worthy of any "lockdown" or crashing of economy/ society imo. Vit C and zinc were not advised instead I lost my career for not shooting myself up with experimental gene therapy.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
"It felt bioengineered. It felt synthetic."

I apologize for questioning a fellow RVF'er but I can't for the life of me comprehend how any illness can cause those types of feelings.

And I had the bloody thing in Feb 2020 and it was a weird cold but "Bioengineered" and "Synthetic"? Hmmmmmm.......
We’re not a cult here.

I gave more detail on it here when I had it. Not really my concern if you agree or not.

Btw, I also got sick Jan 2020 after traveling and Spring 2021. That I’d say was the flu. I’m not the type to just lump being sick with COVID.

And you’re not gonna comprehend it if you haven’t had it.
 

FrancisK

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
Had it 3 times, it was a different kind of flu something I've never had before. But I do agree in premise that it was nothing but a very contagious strain of flu which was most likely engineered in a lab.
 

paternos

Pelican
Catholic
@Aldebaran, I think you are mostly spot on.

I think Covid was just a normal flu. As a kid, I lost my sense of smell several times while having the flu.

I think you are right that the Chinese convinced their "partners" in the WHO that this was something else. Anyway, I remember traveling across Asia 15 years ago, and many people were wearing mouth masks. I was surprised as I had never seen it in my country. I didn't understand it. This policy method has been in use for much longer.

How it came to be:

Event 201 is crucial for understanding what happened. In October 2019, a test was conducted with many global partners to evaluate a response to a pandemic.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/exercises/event201/about

https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/...ic-and-private-leaders-for-pandemic-response/

We saw George Gao, Director-General of the Chinese Center for Disease Control, join this event. Then, five months after this tabletop event in China, they saw a severe flu outbreak.

A whole international health bureaucracy has been built in the last 20 years by the WHO, which is even more crucial.

https://who.int/westernpacific/activities/preparing-for-pandemics

A global pandemic response bureaucracy with rules and triggers was created. The flu triggered the pandemic plans that had been designed by bureaucrats all over the world in the 20 years before the Covid flu. Maybe in the beginning, a certain percentage of people died, which triggered a response like a computer.

If "death rate" > 1% and R (spread rate) > 3, then "roll out function pandemic plan."

The moment the WHO decided it was a pandemic based on rules, a whole waterfall of policies created by bureaucrats years in advance was set in motion; pandemic response.

None of the local national health ministers dared to oppose the WHO or their colleagues. They just went ahead with the rules given by the WHO.

For this reason, we saw the same policies, dashboards, and narratives across the West.

What we should conclude:

The international bureaucracy is entirely dysfunctional. We are stuck with national "leadership" that has no ability to think for themselves. They don't have the courage to oppose any of their international masters in the EU, WHO, or UN. Most of the health ministers don't even have a background as health professionals; they are politicians or bureaucrats.

Two years later, we see the next failure of the international bureaucracy supporting Ukraine. Without any doubt, all national defense ministers in Europe supported Ukraine. There was no consultation of the people, no discernment. They felt the need to act immediately, claiming it was a crisis.

What we see now:

The international and national bureaucracies are not reflecting on their actions. They only congratulate themselves: "We did the right thing with the information we had at the time," and most of the populace parrots this narrative.

The international bureaucracy (WHO, UN, NATO, WEF) is a completely failing form of governance, and there are no checks and balances. Who is going to tell them this is and was a total disaster? That many lives were destroyed? That people died? These people sit in their ivory towers "trying to do the right thing." Some demonstrations should have signaled that governance was far off. These demonstrations were mowed down with brute force by state troops.

About good and bad in a rule based society

I think most of them feel they are doing the right thing, fulfilling their small role in the international bureaucratic system.

I believe the war is deeply spiritual. They have scripts, systems, and rules, and that's all they can hold on to. In their understanding, there is no God and no Christ. They believe that all that keeps us from chaos are their rules. I know quite a few of these people in these positions personally to say this with confidence.

They think they are good people because their "intentions are good" and they are "really trying to do the right thing." What is the right thing in their mind? "Follow the rules," be a good employee, and adhere to their personal understanding of good and bad.

This mindset is so nihilistic and devilish that it makes me sad and angry. I have been part of this. It's soul-crushing. Without Christ, we have absolutely no clue about good and bad. We are constantly mistaken. When our boss asks us something, when do we resist? On what basis? Who do we consult?

Covid is a logical outcome of the rule-based society. And we will see many more of these consequences as long as the empire stands and people keep denying Christ.
 

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
We’re not a cult here.

I gave more detail on it here when I had it. Not really my concern if you agree or not.

Btw, I also got sick Jan 2020 after traveling and Spring 2021. That I’d say was the flu. I’m not the type to just lump being sick with COVID.

And you’re not gonna comprehend it if you haven’t had it.
I had it....just a bad cold with a long lasting cough. Different and lighter than the standard flu.

I'm curious do you get flu shots? There are many who suspect the annual flu shot might actually weaken the immune system and be a vector for disease.
 

An0dyne

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I’m no scientist but isn’t influenza a different virus? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say it is a strain of the common cold, which is a coronavirus? Hence why we say “cold and flu” rather than that the flu is a bad cold.

Anyway, semantics aside, I agree mostly with the premise. But as someone who has had it, I also agree with those saying that it is not literally just the flu we had previously. Just because some here had a more mild iteration of COVID does not negate the symptoms many of us here and around the globe experienced. Even if it was a more severe strain of something already extant, the symptoms were demonstrably exacerbated compared to what was heretofore “common.” Also I have never gotten a flu or COVID jab. I haven’t had any jab since a tetanus shot at around age 13.
 

Batman_

Kingfisher
Having permanently lost my sense of taste and smell makes makes me incredibly skeptical of this by itself. I've never heard of this happening to anyone with the flu before.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
It's not a theory.


Of course it was the flu rebranded.


Case closed.
 

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
It's not a theory.


Of course it was the flu rebranded.


Case closed.
Preach it.

When you read some trash like this you realize that they could diagnose anything as 'covid'.

 
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