COVID Passport thread

Meraki

Sparrow
If only the cOnsPirAcY ThEoRisTS weren’t proven right at every corner. Love the CNBC article that states:

“Once inside a business or venue after showing the Excelsior Pass, as well as another government ID, you & your party will be required to maintain social distance, masks, and hand hygiene.”

LOL

Techno-feudal-toddlerfication of the world. No wonder they push pedo stuff so much, there won’t be any able-minded adults left if this insanity keeps up for a few more decades.

The passes wouldn’t be such a bad idea if one had any faith that this would be temporary & all your private info wouldn’t be kept on your phone. But who buys that? On top of that - so... you’re telling me that even after getting vaxxed, passed & ID’d - in an environment where EVERYONE else has been tested/vax/passed - you STILL “are required to maintain distance protocol” ?

I skimmed a handful of articles and notice the comment section missing from all & not one sentence critical of anything. How stupid are people ?
 

Clemenza

Sparrow
Catholic
One of my fears is that the "vaccine passport" (slave brand) will be required to enter hospitals in the near future.

With two boomer parents its only a matter of time until one has something longer than an outpatient procedure.

This is probably my biggest concern - this stupid "passport" being a requirement to visit a hospital....

My wife is having a baby in October. If I get locked out of air travel and other recreational things due to my refusal to be shot up, so be it... I can live with that. I won't like it... but in the grand scheme of things, a lot of that stuff is just recreational nonsense. But, being banned from my wife's bedside during the birth of our child is a whole different ballgame. Will they have the power to do that to me????

This all has to be stopped, now. Never in my life have I felt that we are about to enter a war for our rights in this country, the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime.
 

fokm

Woodpecker
Protestant
Gold Member
This is probably my biggest concern - this stupid "passport" being a requirement to visit a hospital....

My wife is having a baby in October. If I get locked out of air travel and other recreational things due to my refusal to be shot up, so be it... I can live with that. I won't like it... but in the grand scheme of things, a lot of that stuff is just recreational nonsense. But, being banned from my wife's bedside during the birth of our child is a whole different ballgame. Will they have the power to do that to me????

This all has to be stopped, now. Never in my life have I felt that we are about to enter a war for our rights in this country, the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime.
Get a midwife.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member


Harmeet K. Dhillon @pnjaban's thread continue below:
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2/In the last year, I appeared before federal judges in several states from HI to CA to VA to NJ. One after the other they gaveled down challenges to the blocking of prayer, protect, small business, schools, outdoor sports — even beaches! — despite the dearth of science to back it.
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3/ At @Liberty_Ctr my year and that of many other attorneys was an extended triage to determine which of thousands of civil rights violations was the worst. Was it the violations of the constitutional requirements for how we make voting laws? Or ..
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4/ Was it governors telling hundreds of millions they could only pray by video conference, forget about getting married baptized or burying your loved ones? Was it telling poor and disabled children, “no school for you— the teacher’s union said it’s unsafe”?
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5/ Was it praising a 100,000-person BLM march in Los Angeles while telling 100 anti-shutdown protestors in Sacramento they would be arrested if they exercised their First Amendment rights peacefully and safely?
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6/ Was it telling mom and pop retail stores that keep our small towns and rural areas alive that they could not open to sell cooking supplies, lawn furniture, workout equipment, while Costco, Amazon, and Target were allowed to thrive and expand their market dominance?
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7/Was it telling parents of adult developmentally disabled persons they could not visit their isolated, sad children in any way? Was it locking our ill seniors in nursing homes to die while giving political donors immunity from suit? Was it forcing bereft children into suicide?
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8/ I could go on. I’m frankly exhausted with the sheer volume of legal challenges mounted in the last year by my team @Liberty_Ctr and our constitution law allies. We are still fighting a lonely battle. Many citizens have given in to the path of least resistance. They are numb.
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9/ But we can’t allow COVID or any government or judge to force us into an endgame where we allow the government to trace our every step and control our movements on the basis of a barely tested, experimental vaccine whose long-term side effects are unknown.../
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10/ A vaccine which millions don’t need because they have antibodies... which they can’t take for religious or moral or medical reasons ... which may not work anyway, which may not work on the next virus of whatever origin, and which forces us to give waivers to drug companies.
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11/ This American, from law school days on, has fought against the government having the ability to stop you and ask for your papers, to prove your right to walk in a suburban neighborhood, to be pulled over for being brown and driving a nice car, to be surveilled (Patriot Act).
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12/ And I won’t accept this new police state reality. I won’t accept China-style social credit scores and monitoring my movements on the basis of a novel medical product to fight a novel virus of suspect origin. Please join me in challenging these laws! Liberty needs us.
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13/ For those who asked, you can support these legal efforts on behalf of ordinary Americans (not corporations, not special interests, not pharma companies, not big tech) at http://libertycenter.org/donate/ -- we will fight for your constitutional rights with these nonprofit resources.
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EndlessGravity

 
Banned
Protestant
But, being banned from my wife's bedside during the birth of our child is a whole different ballgame. Will they have the power to do that to me????

We're having our next at home.

Not speaking of you but men who let their elders die alone and their children be taken away from a mother right after birth aren't men, let alone good, God-fearing men.
 

budoslavic

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Orthodox
Gold Member


“There was never under discussion any mandates to take vaccines. We will not have COVID vaccines mandated in Florida,” DeSantis said. “The flip side of that though with these vaccine passports is it’s completely unacceptable for either the government or the private sector to impose upon you the requirement that you show proof of vaccine to just simply be able to participate in normal society.”

The governor announced he would sign an emergency order temporarily barring the use of vaccine passports in the state by either governments or private businesses. He also said he would be working leadership in the legislature to find a more permanent solution to restrict the use of vaccine passports.

“So we’re taking action,” he said. “We’ll also have something to say that, ‘That’s just simply not going to be permitted in the state of Florida.’”

The governor added that he would also oppose any move requiring children to get a COVID-19 shot in order to attend school.

 

Biscuits_Gravy

Woodpecker
Catholic
This is probably my biggest concern - this stupid "passport" being a requirement to visit a hospital....

My wife is having a baby in October. If I get locked out of air travel and other recreational things due to my refusal to be shot up, so be it... I can live with that. I won't like it... but in the grand scheme of things, a lot of that stuff is just recreational nonsense. But, being banned from my wife's bedside during the birth of our child is a whole different ballgame. Will they have the power to do that to me????

This all has to be stopped, now. Never in my life have I felt that we are about to enter a war for our rights in this country, the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime.
It's all about where people will draw their line. If people simply refuse to do something, then it falls on the government to enforce it. If they do that, they either fail or succeed depending on the wills of both parties. The mask, as Roosh has pointed out, was to gain soft consent, to warm up the pot of frog water, so to speak then Vax > Vax Passport (Digital ID) > ??? etc. At some point, I believe this House of Cards will fall. At some point, they will bite off more than they can chew (I believe they are very close if not already there). It's basically like they are just trying to make it hard to be a person. More and more it feels like some sort of club, you keep paying dues, yet the rules keep increasing and the benefits keep decreasing. Maybe you aren't allowed to quit the club, but you can walk away with your soul intact. If they don't like that, then it's on them. I echo your sentiment, and I feel like the stage is set. I don't know what it will take, but once the hat drops, they won't be able to control the outcome like they think they can.
 

Biscuits_Gravy

Woodpecker
Catholic
I also wanted to ask, has anyone had any success contacting their state representatives, senators, governors etc?? I live in a so-called "Republican" state and wrote several emails regarding the election fraud and received zero responses. I am not surprised, but at this point I even wonder if it's something worth doing. People always say write your elected officials, but I'm wondering if it's even worth wasting the time writing something that's well-crafted and respectable. This vaccine passport cannot happen, even though I fear it will.
 

jonNorth

Robin
Catholic
Does anybody know in what country these vaccines are claimed to be manufactured? I know those getting the vaccine certainly don't know
 

budoslavic

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Orthodox
Gold Member
Psaki's a terrible liar.



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The Biden-Harris Administration is going to be working with "private companies" anyway. Keep in mind the Big Tech companies were involved in the election fraud to help put Biden-Harris into the White House so we shouldn't be surprised when they get involved with the COVID passport sham to collect and share private data with the ((()))s.
 
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budoslavic

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Does anybody know in what country these vaccines are claimed to be manufactured? I know those getting the vaccine certainly don't know

Go to this page on where the COVID vaccinations are being made.

 

Sisyphus

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I think it would be worthwhile to have a thread devoted to avenues for legal challenges to this and other mandates. One option is to rename or repurpose this thread or I wouldn't mind starting a new one as long as it's not considered to be cluttering up this part of the forum.

I make this suggestion because I think it would be beneficial if all of the legal information were collected in one place instead of spread out in multiple threads. This would allow for easy reference and updating. Let's face it - we're going to need this information sooner or later and with each passing day it's looking more like sooner.
 

budoslavic

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Former Clinton Adviser: Mandatory Vaccine Passport Could Lead to ‘End of Human Liberty in the West’​

Former Clinton adviser Naomi Wolf said that mandatory COVID-19 vaccine passports that have been proposed in recent days would be the “end of human liberty in the West if this plan unfolds as planned.”

“‘Vaccine passport’ sounds like a fine thing if you don’t understand what those platforms can do. I’m [the] CEO of a tech company, I understand what this platform does,” Wolf, who’s also an author, told Fox News on March 28. “It is not about the vaccine, it’s not about the virus, it’s about your data. Once this rolls out, you don’t have a choice about being part of the system.

“What people have to understand is that any other functionality can be loaded onto that platform with no problem at all.”

Wolf said such data can be “merged with your Paypal account, with your digital currency,” adding that “Microsoft is already talking about merging it with payment plans.”

Wolf noted that it happened in Israel, “and six months later, we’re hearing from activists that it’s a two-tiered society and that basically, activists are ostracized and surveilled continually. It is the end of civil society, and they are trying to roll it out around the world.”

“It is absolutely so much more than a vaccine pass, it is—I can not stress enough that it has the power to turn off your life, or to turn on your life, to let you engage in society or be marginalized.”

Going a step further, Wolf likened such plans to the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) surveillance of its population and promotion of a “social credit score.”

“How does [the CCP] keep a billion people under the thumb of a totalitarian regime?” she asked. “The CCP can find any dissident within five minutes, and that can happen here literally within months.”

Wolf referred to reports about Biden administration officials proposing the idea. The Washington Post and CNN—citing anonymous, unconfirmed sources— have suggested that the administration is working toward developing a national vaccine passport standard. New York state has proposed its own “Excelsior Pass” that would be used in large-scale venues such as Madison Square Garden. The plan has been lambasted by civil liberties groups and proponents.

On March 29, White House press secretary Jen Psaki addressed the claims, saying the administration doesn’t see a federal mandate for vaccine passports.

“We believe it will be driven by the private sector,” she told reporters.

In other countries, such passports have already been created. Israel set one up in February to grant people access to gyms and hotels, Iceland now uses a passport to allow foreign travel, and Saudi Arabia has an app-based passport for people who are inoculated.

“The thing underpinning all of this is, what are you going to use it for?” said Melinda Mills, director of the Leverhulme Centre for Demographic Science at the University of Oxford, according to the Wall Street Journal. “Is it for international travel? Is it for getting a job? Is it for buying milk?”


 

budoslavic

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EU's COVID passport = Digital Green Certificate





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