What country is better than the US right now? Sweden? Seems like pockets of the US is as good as it gets at the momentWhat country are you in? Are you going to stay there?
Los Angeles School District orwellian China-inspired mandatory health pass app (which is mentioned in one of the lawsuits I described in the Vaccine thread).
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COVID 19 / Safe Steps to Safe Schools - Daily Pass
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Highlights of the required "daily health check", one must certify that:
- "we avoid inviting people to the home, other than the ones that need to be there" - employer severely intruding into private life
- you do not have "shortness of breath of difficulty breathing" - ADA discrimination that automatically bans anyone with asthma or allergies. And Los Angeles County is the place where one is almost guaranteed to end up with these illnesses due to heavy air pollution.
- traveling outside of Southern California is not allowed - another severe invasion of privacy by employer, basically slavery
- "I had been as safe as possible" - that's a good one, literally anything can be used to ban one from employment or attending school
This is their dystopian promo video. They're readying the generation of ultimate slaves used to surveillance.
I have no idea what is better than the USA. I was looking at options but from what I read, these places are way worse (they have curfews, mandatory mask wearing outdoors, some have movement restrictions, etc.). If anyone knows of some paradise of freedom, please inform us. Roosh forum will have a mass migration in short notice.I've been thinking/looking into that a lot recently...
What you can safely predict is that airlines/borders will require digital proof that you meet the nation's entry requirements (QR code).
So PCR/Vax certificates will be impossible to fake. You'll have to bribe the source (i.e. doc/nurse) and that's gonna be tricky.
Airline's own green passes (like IATA) will be at the discretion of the airline.
So individual airlines may require full vax, but for the most part the statements they've made suggest they'll just make it 'easier' for you to check-in and upload the required docs.
There'll be exceptions (like Quantas), but they're inviting legal claims for discrimination down the road, and they can still make leisure travel impossible to destinations where you are not resident/citizen without vax/PCR just by upholding the country's own entry requirements (as now).
Other ways to escape, will depend on where you are. Of course borders will require PCR.
But I'd say plan for the worst (i.e.being unable to move again).
I can't see how they can leap from PCR to vax immediately... but I'd guess they will at some point.
The flip-side is if there's somewhere you'd rather be, to be sure you want to get there now.
I think what's saving us here in America is that politicians here still have to pay lip service to things like the constitution, liberty and freedom so this slows down the tyranny a tad.Rural farm country USA seems to be good. Wife had to go by a major US grocery chain today (we’re so far out of the way our region is almost never even mentioned in these discussions) and she reported that less than half of the people in there were even wearing masks anymore. Previously this was the only place in town besides the hospital that everyone was masked up.
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There's good places but two things:
-Nowhere will be perfect (and perfect is a bad standard, you didn't live in perfect before)
-Western Europe and US and the countries dependent on them are collapsing (Canada / Eastern Europe)
Best case scenario is you setup your life to be independent of the collapsing areas (2nd passport, residences, income, etc.) and then you can live where you please and quickly switch between places as needed.
99% will not be able to handle this but the strong can survive and thrive. I suspect my life will be much better in 10 years than now (and it's already pretty good).
This is last call to get out of the western collapsing countries, there's still time but likely not much
Don't despair! It's very achievable. Our ancestors had it much tougher, the hardest part about modern life is the addictions, not the actual activities required from you. You just need to work hard, think, plan and delay gratification, all things Yahweh encourages in us and will bring yourself and those around you happiness. If you fail, you can rest easy knowing you did your part.God help us.
Where are you going to escape the imminent collapse?
I have no idea what is better than the USA. I was looking at options but from what I read, these places are way worse (they have curfews, mandatory mask wearing outdoors, some have movement restrictions, etc.). If anyone knows of some paradise of freedom, please inform us. Roosh forum will have a mass migration in short notice.
You need to get residency in the EU to give yourself future travel and living options. I am resident in Portugal and will always be able to travel between the continent and the UK.I have thought about leaving the UK, but where to? All civilised countries will eventually push the vaccine. I think you have more chance of avoiding the vaccine by staying put, rather than leaving. They will probably eventually demand a vaccine in order to return to the uk. Currently they are allowing PCR tests.
If it was made mandatory there will likely be more resistance than many are predicting. The opposition among under 40s is high. The stats on the number vaccinated here are likely fake, and those vaccinated are nearly all over 60.
Why would you be afraid? You can always get back to the UK, even throughout 2020 it was possible.I'm in the UK now. I don't have a valid reason to travel. No idea how much they check this at the airport. I guess I'm afraid of being isolated in a foreign country during these times as well. Though most of my family are pro the vaccine.
I agree. A big part of the great reset and covid response hoax is the green agenda - this is why so many countries have signed up for a dystopian future for their citizens.My friend tells me that's Serbia. Apparently a lot of girls there won't even date Americans because of negative associations.
(I have a similar bias by the way, but it's because they're fat entitled bishes, for the most part).
Bouncing around... no. My plan is to either stay where I am, or get under the wire in the next week(s) and get residency somewhere I want to stay long term.
Pretty soon you'll only be able to travel between countries where you're resident/citizen (if that).
Why would you be afraid? You can always get back to the UK, even throughout 2020 it was possible.
Contact a volunteer organisation and get a gig with them. Book a dentist in Mexico, hair transplant in Turkey? Millions of ways to be creative and beat the restrictions.
You should also question the morality of locking down 66m people for months on end and also how the Gov lied about the introduction of vaccine passports.I am honestly looking into that. The thing is, I want to continue doing my online work as I will make more money from that. So I am sort of planning to get a gig lined up 'on paper' and then cancel it when I have arrived. However, I am questioning the morality of this. Plus, actually setting that up is easier said than done.
I am honestly looking into that. The thing is, I want to continue doing my online work as I will make more money from that. So I am sort of planning to get a gig lined up 'on paper' and then cancel it when I have arrived. However, I am questioning the morality of this. Plus, actually setting that up is easier said than done.
In countries like UAE their business model and governance situation are very different (focused around being an international business hub and a monarchy, respectively) so their incentives are very different.
So 'as soon as vaccines are available' what happens if the kid isn't vaxxed?
They're excluded?
I like that some parts of Eastern Europe are projected to further lose population. This means less competition - no need to constantly compete for houses, land, parking, access to nature, like what is seen in the US, constant and increasing competition for all resources.
Countries like Serbia, Bulgaria, Macedonia etc are all depopulating. They top some lists for quickest depopulating countries. Additionally with brain drain and guest workers many are leaving for Germany, Austria, Switzerland, etc. The brightest are leaving and not coming back. No one has kids, and economic situation is rough. The rural situation is especially dire in places like Bulgaria where whole villages are disappearing and not coming back (kinda like Italy). Planning permission is a double edged sword and in many of these countries there are corrupt bureaucracies where buildings get condemned or torn down without approval. No recourse in the court system for such situations. The mafia operates all sorts of rackets so the people really wielding the power are not the courts or the pols but the mafia. Not a situation you want to be in... There was a notable project in Serbia funded by Qataris where a whole neighborhood was torn down without permission to expedite the project for the Arab investors. No one was ever held accountable and dozens of families lost their homes with no available recourse. It happened in the dead of night with masked men who refused to identify themselves. Keep in mind that was a project done in the capitol.Rurally. From what I heard prices in the cities are still going up, at least in Serbia, so I assume elsewhere. I think a big part of this is also that there is little to no planning permission. In Northern Europe house prices are kept high by the fact you can't build houses anywhere. Virtually all new constructions are earmarked by local political slugs and built by large contractors. Gone are the days of the independent builder. In The UK the price of an agricultural acre is about £10,000, while an acre with residential planning/zoning is £1,000,000. Together the affect of mass immigration, zealous planning and juicing people into cities is causing house prices to rise.