COVID Passport thread

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
LOL with the Sinophobia. The Chinese couldn't give two flips about the health maladies of fat Americans half a world away. What are they going to do, blackmail me about my hemerrhoids? The China-mongering is endless distraction from our true problems. The worst things the Chinese do are eat dogs and spit in public.

If the Chinese are getting private data on Americans for any reason it is just to immediately sell it to truly dangerous parties like Faceberg and Google.
Wait once Big pharma will start selling genetic therapy. Free genetic testing for everyone! The catch? You might find yourself on the donor side of an organ transplant surgery. There are loads of billionaires with failing organs.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
If the Chinese are getting private data on Americans for any reason it is just to immediately sell it to truly dangerous parties like Faceberg and Google.
Collecting private data is simply about using the information as part of a "Social Credit System" experiment, which is what most countries will follow in the future.

China's an a**hoe for that.

The COVID Passport such as the New York State's "Excelsior Pass" is just a start. As someone who works 20+ years in an IT field, the privacy policy is one of the worst I have ever seen. We don't know how the information is being used, what the technical specs/details are, and how it is actually being set up. Gov Nipplerings (Cuomo) & IBM were not being transparent about the "Excelsior Pass" app because they were using buzzwords.

For those who are wondering about the China's "Social Credit System", see below diagram/chart.

Social-Scoring-in-China-Social-Credit-System.png
 
They already have one. It’s called a smartphone. Did you write that message from a smartphone?
You can still switch carriers, hardware, stop service or use a dumb phone. Which would duplicate your identity or create discontinuity in your records. Seems like the vaccine passport would be more permanently attached to your existence but I don't know
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Two factors:

1) It prevents you from being able to opt out by leaving your phone at home.

2) Indoors Bluetooth “contact tracing” has some important functionality that cell phone location tracking does not. For example, let’s say you’re a terrorist of some kind agree to meet some people in the back car of the G train leaving the subway station at 5:15 PM every week. They’re commuting along your route, and you will use the ten minute ride before people start getting off to report and receive instructions. As the cellphone tracking only works up to the point that you enter the subway station it can only identify who has what commuting patterns. If you enable Bluetooth contact tracing then suddenly the government is able to identify that a social group exists there because it’s pinging the same group of contacts multiple times. Multiple members of the group have foreign contacts to the same country and the AI now flags this group as a possible terrorist cell which enables offline “assets” (glowies) to be dispatched and perform surveillance.

If not for “contact tracing” this would just look like people who get off work at the same time taking the same train home.
 

Watchman72

Sparrow
It's not too difficult to mess up their contact tracing BS.
Just buy an extra smartphone just for your vax passport app.

Don't do anything else with it than scanning QR codes, and when your done scanning, put it in a Faraday cage (metal container, alluminium foil, anti RFID sleeve).
When the phone is in it's cage all wireless communication will be blocked. It won't be able to get location data, communicate via bluetooth, wifi or the cellular network.
You can even swap your vax ID phone with friends once in a while to mess up things even more.
 
Two factors:

1) It prevents you from being able to opt out by leaving your phone at home.

2) Indoors Bluetooth “contact tracing” has some important functionality that cell phone location tracking does not. For example, let’s say you’re a terrorist of some kind agree to meet some people in the back car of the G train leaving the subway station at 5:15 PM every week. They’re commuting along your route, and you will use the ten minute ride before people start getting off to report and receive instructions. As the cellphone tracking only works up to the point that you enter the subway station it can only identify who has what commuting patterns. If you enable Bluetooth contact tracing then suddenly the government is able to identify that a social group exists there because it’s pinging the same group of contacts multiple times. Multiple members of the group have foreign contacts to the same country and the AI now flags this group as a possible terrorist cell which enables offline “assets” (glowies) to be dispatched and perform surveillance.

If not for “contact tracing” this would just look like people who get off work at the same time taking the same train home.
That's assuming every "terrorist" has a cell phone or some other kind of device on their person for this specific meeting on the subway. The faraday cage thing works but even incomplete trails are like leaving bread crumbs, if you don't want the glowies to be sticking their nostrils up your ass, don't even use a cell phone for the things you want to keep private. Learn routes in the city where all the cameras are, learn the microphone capabilities of cell phone models that may be in proximity to said conversation, etc.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
I just got off the phone with a normie relative in the UK...

There's not going to be much resistance there, it seems.

He tells me they're already at 40% vaxxed, 2nd only to Israel...

Taking his attitude of 'quite right' to the inevitable intro of vax proof required for private businesses, travel, employment... the 25% who don't sign up for the poison are gonna have a tough time.

It really is staggering. All logic is gone.

How hard is it to get a fake vax passport in the uk? Get out of here with the doom and gloom and let’s focus on ways to beat the system
 
Has anyone here discussed banking yet?

Which banks would be most likely to require a passport to enter? Chase comes to mind with their recent outcry against the Georgia voting policy. What happens if you can’t move money out or have a problem without an in person visit?
I get it that bitcoin is the future but let’s talk USD only.
 
Has anyone here discussed banking yet?

Which banks would be most likely to require a passport to enter? Chase comes to mind with their recent outcry against the Georgia voting policy. What happens if you can’t move money out or have a problem without an in person visit?
I get it that bitcoin is the future but let’s talk USD only.
Get a good stack of usd bills cash. And get some online bank which does not have physical stores.
 

Laus Deo

Pigeon
I take a somewhat more optimistic view that the same lack of intelligence normies have shown in the last year is also afflicting governments. Global IQ has been in decline since the 1700s and governments (and corporations) will not be immune.

For example, here in Australia the government developed an app last year to assist in contact tracing. Despite 1/4 of the population downloading it, it was so farcically developed that it has helped uncover a grand total of 17 corona cases in 12 months.

The EU can’t even rollout their vaccine programme properly, and they have utterly botched every attempt in the last 30 years at creating their commie-utopia (see Euro crisis, migrant crisis etc.). Yet they think they can unveil a green/corona passport to 500m people in +27 languages in time for summer? It’s comical.

Short of Microsoft (conveniently) or another globohomo platform stepping in and providing the overarching software/logistics directly to governments, I sincerely doubt we’ll see anything resembling a globally coherent corona passport for at least 3-4 years.

In the meantime however, the best strategy to counter this entire shift towards a global passport is to use a tactic those of you from this forum’s old PUA days would well recall: agree and amplify. Some ideas to do this include:
- Encourage as many regional/state/national governments as possible to develop their own passports and systems which won’t of course talk to one another. Likewise encourage start-ups and smaller tech firms to work on their own ones. The more splintered the system, the better as it will annoy normies and lead to abandonment of corona passports.
- Start a ranking system where passports are compared to one another for quality thus make normies question the validity of certain types of passports. This doubt could eventually lead to doubts about the whole system.

Hopefully in using the same divide-and-conquer tactics the elites have used on us since WW2 the entire system will start collapse in on itself.
 

DanielH

Pelican
How hard is it to get a fake vax passport in the uk? Get out of here with the doom and gloom and let’s focus on ways to beat the system
A fake vax passport should only be used to flee whatever state you live in if it comes to that. It's not actually fighting the system. It's compliance by other means. If they don't let you participate in their system without the vaccine then find others who operate outside of the system.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Has anyone here discussed banking yet?

Which banks would be most likely to require a passport to enter? Chase comes to mind with their recent outcry against the Georgia voting policy. What happens if you can’t move money out or have a problem without an in person visit?
I get it that bitcoin is the future but let’s talk USD only.
Another problem is banks getting rid of expats/closing their accounts, it's been going on for few years.
Bank will allow to move the money out but the question would be where to move them, if you flee to a 3rd world country the money most certainly won't be safe there if you move them to a local bank.
This is part of the same total control plan as covid hoax - they want to control where a person can live, move to, etc.
 
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