COVID Passport thread

They look short term, we look long term, that's essentially the difference. For them ''just'' getting the jab and ''just'' scanning their QR code in 2 seconds is nothing for being able to go to a somewhat normal state of affairs. They don't see any danger. I believe this also has to do with the fact that in the West at least we've had 70 years of prosperity, no serious crises, no devastating wars, the idea of it's getting better all the time and nothing can happen to us now. We've become domesticated, weak, feeble and at the peak of unalertness to any danger.
There's something to be said for the "rabbits vs. wolves" analogy. The unprecedented "good times" in America since WWII have allowed for millions of weak people to be born who don't have a self-preservation instinct and are actively hostile towards their own civilization. I don't think any amount of deaths or disabilities will "wake up" people who aren't already alert to this madness. Apparent deaths from the vaccine are liberally being blamed on Covid and the unvaccinated, without much pushback. The only real opposition seems to be from corporations who don't want the hit to their bottom line by having to fire workers just before the "holiday" consumption season.

I'm glad that normies seem to be opening their eyes here and there, but unless it translates into civil disobedience by not following rules and mandates, it's hard to see what good it will do. Globo-Homo may have overplayed their hand by rolling out mandates, boosters and the idea of third/annual doses so quickly, but their tactic in cases like this is to pull back for a while and then ratchet things up two more notches while people are occupied with some other distraction. The destruction of the livelihoods of millions of people has already been normalized between lockdowns and mandates, if people don't resist en masse now it will be nearly impossible to roll back in the future absent a devastating war, economic collapse or other societal crisis. All things are possible with God however, so I will continue to pray for the strength to bear whatever may come.
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
There's something to be said for the "rabbits vs. wolves" analogy. The unprecedented "good times" in America since WWII have allowed for millions of weak people to be born who don't have a self-preservation instinct and are actively hostile towards their own civilization. I don't think any amount of deaths or disabilities will "wake up" people who aren't already alert to this madness. Apparent deaths from the vaccine are liberally being blamed on Covid and the unvaccinated, without much pushback. The only real opposition seems to be from corporations who don't want the hit to their bottom line by having to fire workers just before the "holiday" consumption season.
PC summarizes my position on the population boom, which isn't in itself bad (or too many people) but rather the quality produced and family disintegration together made for millions of normies or weaklings, mentally, physically, spiritually. My sole hope at this point is the greed of corporations in lobbying the gov't to not crush their companies and respective egos. And I honestly have no idea at this point if they'll care (the Feds) at all.
 

kingtufti

Sparrow
What in fact will happen is that they will run with open arms to the government and elite who has killed their peers, begging them to save them and offer the solution to the problem the government created.

Ab-so-lutely...

They'll enforce this BS on others for no reason at all... but when it's to prevent 'the next one' they'll do it with vigor.
 

Nordwand

Kingfisher
A newly retired friend of mine will be travelling to the Caribbean in the spring. He went into detail about what he will have to do by way of testing, documentation and isolating, both on the outward and return journeys. He went on to say that if he was still working, he wouldn't bother. Given what he told me, I can quite understand.
 
I don't care much about tourist travel anymore, but I do have good reasons to visit my homeland. From what I've read it will still be possible to travel un-jabbed for now, providing a negative covid test upon return (same thing for the jabbed), but I have no doubt they'll try to prevent the un-jabbed from departing or returning to the US before long, as apparently is happening in Canada. Does it make sense to have a lawyer on call in case they prevent me from re-entering the US? I'm not at that stage yet, but a one-way trip out of here may be in the cards before long.
 
I don't care much about tourist travel anymore, but I do have good reasons to visit my homeland. From what I've read it will still be possible to travel un-jabbed for now, providing a negative covid test upon return (same thing for the jabbed), but I have no doubt they'll try to prevent the un-jabbed from departing or returning to the US before long, as apparently is happening in Canada. Does it make sense to have a lawyer on call in case they prevent me from re-entering the US? I'm not at that stage yet, but a one-way trip out of here may be in the cards before long
I was just going to say that a friend of mine got vax passports sorted for herself and family in Poland so you might be able to organise one for yourself if you have a decent network of contacts on the ground there. I'm not personally in favour of playing into the "papers please" system but I do understand there are people in a particular bind who may need to visit family, etc.
 
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canuckj

Pigeon
Does anyone's line of work involve meeting clients? How do you handle this? Without divulging too much information, I would typically be meeting people for lunch or coffee occasionally and am dreading an invitation that I will have to turn down. I was part of a tour a few weeks ago where lunch at a restaurant was on the agenda. I politely declined saying I had some things I needed to do at the office and would join them later; however, I don't think anyone was fooled. One colleague even told me not to worry and eventually this will end. For now I am meeting people at the office and could cater in if need be. Otherwise, I think I could get a COVID test if I have some advance notice. For clarification, I haven't shared my status with my boss as it hasn't directly come up yet.
 

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Does anyone's line of work involve meeting clients? How do you handle this? Without divulging too much information, I would typically be meeting people for lunch or coffee occasionally and am dreading an invitation that I will have to turn down. I was part of a tour a few weeks ago where lunch at a restaurant was on the agenda. I politely declined saying I had some things I needed to do at the office and would join them later; however, I don't think anyone was fooled. One colleague even told me not to worry and eventually this will end. For now I am meeting people at the office and could cater in if need be. Otherwise, I think I could get a COVID test if I have some advance notice. For clarification, I haven't shared my status with my boss as it hasn't directly come up yet.
Man you really just have to act like none of this exists. Don’t cater to whatever these vaccinated want. It’s what you say. Not them. It’s all in your head at this point and that’s actually what they want.
Confidently keep doing your normal routine and don’t budge. This is key.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Does anyone's line of work involve meeting clients? How do you handle this? Without divulging too much information, I would typically be meeting people for lunch or coffee occasionally and am dreading an invitation that I will have to turn down. I was part of a tour a few weeks ago where lunch at a restaurant was on the agenda. I politely declined saying I had some things I needed to do at the office and would join them later; however, I don't think anyone was fooled. One colleague even told me not to worry and eventually this will end. For now I am meeting people at the office and could cater in if need be. Otherwise, I think I could get a COVID test if I have some advance notice. For clarification, I haven't shared my status with my boss as it hasn't directly come up yet.

Consider searching for restaurants which do not check for the pass. If you have a local place that is "friendly", go there in the meantime. Alot of small restaurants are fine, especially if you have an established relationship. You might need to actually go around and get rejected at a bunch of places til you find yours.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member

Tennessee Lawmakers Vote to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine Passports, Restrict Mask Mandates​

The Tennessee legislature has approved an omnibus bill that, in part, bans COVID-19 vaccine passports at large, and also restricts mask mandates by most entities, with some exceptions.

The measures were passed in the state’s third special session this year, which began on Oct. 27 and was adjourned in the early hours on Oct. 30.

In particular, the legislature voted to ban government entities, public schools, and many private businesses from requiring proof of COVID-19 vaccines or mandating vaccines among their staff. These same entities also can’t take adverse action against anyone who declines to comply with such requirements for any reason.

However, businesses that contract with the federal government and thereby receive federal funds, including public universities, may be able to mandate vaccines and masks after they apply for and obtain approval from the state’s comptroller’s office, if they are able to make the case that not doing so could result in them losing out on federal funding.

The legislation also allows for any people who would normally qualify for unemployment benefits—but left their job because they refused the COVID-19 vaccine amid workplace mandates—to qualify for such benefits.

If approved by the governor, the measures would further restrict vaccine mandates in the state. In Tennessee, the state or local governments are currently prohibited from requiring people to provide proof of vaccination to enter government properties or access government services, due to a measure signed into law in May.

The legislation was approved by the Senate in a 22–4 vote and passed in the House in a 64–14 vote, the Tennessean reported. There are also multiple non-COVID-19 measures in the omnibus bill.

Mask Mandates

Lawmakers in Tennessee also voted to restrict mask mandates by government entities, such that masks wouldn’t be mandated for accessing government facilities or services, and that residents could be granted exemptions on medical or religious grounds.

If signed, government employers, including public schools, would not be able to mandate masks for employees, unless the COVID-19 infection rate is high—a rolling 14-day average COVID-19 infection rate of at least 1,000 cases per 100,000 people—in a certain locale. No county in Tennessee has reached that figure since the start of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus pandemic. If a mask mandate is implemented in any county, it would expire after 14 days, according to the new measures.

Masks can still be mandated by other entities, including hospitals, private schools, correctional facilities, long-term care facilities, airports, and certain other businesses.

Other COVID-19 Items

The Tennessee legislature also approved several separate COVID-19 related items.

Lawmakers voted to ban the use of any public money or resources to implement or enforce any COVID-19 related mandate.

The bill seeks to remove the authority from any health entity, mayor, local government entity, or school in the state to quarantine a person or private business over the CCP virus. Instead, it gives the health commissioner the sole authority to outline the criteria for COVID-19 quarantines.

One item in the bill stipulates that places of entertainment can require proof of COVID-19 antibodies or a negative COVID-19 test result to grant patrons admission.

Another item requires that, to vaccinate a child, a health care provider must obtain written consent from the child’s parent or legal guardian.

The bill would block the government from interfering with a health care provider’s decision whether to recommend, prescribe, or administer monoclonal antibodies as a COVID-19 treatment.

It also seeks to require licensing boards to develop a set of transparent rules if they wish to discipline health care providers for COVID-19 treatments, although the rules would be subject to the state’s Government Operations Committee for approval, the Tennessean reported.

The proposed legislation also would require hospitals to allow COVID-19 patients to have someone with them during care, as long as the visitor tests negative and has no COVID-19 symptoms.

Gov. Bill Lee, a Republican, said in a statement on Oct. 30 that his office is “evaluating each piece of legislation to ensure we push back on harmful federal policies & do right by Tennesseans.”

“I commend members of the General Assembly for working to address the Biden Administration’s overreach into our state, our workforce, & our schools,” he said.
 

Tactician

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Some shower thoughts about what the vaxx pass is, what it aims to do, & where it comes from :laugh:

There is truly nothing new under the sun. The Biblical precedent of the vaxx pass is Daniel not wanting to bow to the statue & getting thrown into the lion's den (& then God delivers him). Note that a prince or peasant might live very different lives, but they were all required to do this one thing. Note further that Daniel wasn't investigated by a police force, but was ratted out of the slimy ministers who wanted to get rid of him. This will be addressed below.


The vaxx pass (VP) is Western social credit score:

A lot of us are waiting for social credit scores to arrive. What we missed is that the VP is logically & spiritually equivalent to social credit scores already. Instead of a Chinese style rating from 0-1000, everyone on the VP either gets a 0 or a 1. Instead of a range of behaviours & opinions, it's just whether you'll submit your bodily autonomy, yes or no. Chinese style social credit may never come. Western style social credit is already here.

Under this system, a Portland junkie & a New York yuppie are viewed the same by Globohomo as long as they bow to the narrative. This way everybody gets to maintain their sense of uniqueness & identity (ego/pride). This illusion helps keep them in line. Globohomo only cares if you'll submit when it counts.

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(From the Christian Memes thread)


What the vaxx pass aims to accomplish:

Access economy which is a layer 2 control on top of fiat. The original layer was acquiring fiat, this second layer is being able to spend it.

Psychologically, this is done by playing both sides of desire(carrot) & fear(stick). Papaya always talks about this. Under our usual fiat system, people mainly provide service out of a desire for gain. This could be baking a cake for profit, or a politician selling out their country for a payday. In contrast, under the VP, people deny service out of a fear of loss. Business owners request the VP because they are scared of getting covid (true believers) or they don't want to catch a fine & lose their business.

Fiat was effective because it allowed Central Banks to raise & maintain an army of loyal followers. Through stuff like govt employment, NGOs, woke corporations, & grants, SJW views could be pushed & their staff could have their social value (measured in dollars) equated to the regular guys who make up the backbone of our economy. E.g. A "diversity officer" could receive equivalent or more pay than a tradie or small biz owner. This would never fly in a free market without a centralized money printer.

Now this is great for Globohomo, but the "problem" is that the tradie or biz owner could still take their dollars & spend em on whatever they like. This is clearly too much freedom & that's where the vaxx pass comes in. If you want to enjoy the fruits of your labour, you'll need to submit your body to us (i.e., we can kill you at any time).:alien:

It's kind of like robbery. They're essentially hijacking the economy & any dollars you saved up with it (dollars only matter if people accept them). Without a VP, you might avoid huge chunks of your town or city. Your patronage or tax dollars went to maintaining those areas & now you can't access them, even though you (general population) helped build them up. To avoid being robbed of their economy, normies allowed themselves to be robbed of their bodily autonomy.

If this control grid is normalized, slow-acting poisons can kill/sterilize the population over decades, likely in proportion to advances in tech & robotics (less people needed). Future generations can also be made increasingly stupid to ensure they can never revolt. Not saying this WILL happen, just that the option becomes feasible & likely. The elites also have 'consent' because they've been very clear about Pfizer n Co's lack of immunity, long term safety, covid 99.7% survival, etc. Consent is apparently important to them.


The ideology the vaxx pass is based on:

All forms of social credit are based on Communitarianism – The ideology that individual rights must be sacrificed for the "greater good of society." This is why you are hearing that unvaxxed people are 'selfish' & putting others at risk. It's about orchestrating a cultural shift to prioritize the 'group' at the expense of the individual. This will be the 'justification' to exclude you from society.

Now, you may have heard one of our types say, "My rights don't end where your feelings begin." Communitarianism is the complete opposite of this, which is why libtards instinctively love it so much, even if they've never heard the name.


Communitarianism's enforcement:

An internal method to augment the current external method of police departments & agencies. Basically ratting each other out. :laugh: This adds thousands of "undercover officers" (Karens) to existing police departments.

The elites have weaponized libtard neurosis & extreme desire for acceptance/conformity by giving power to fearful & self-righteous Karens. Maybe 49 out of 50 people have no intention to report any violations, but just one to snitch can cause a financial explosion. That tiny percent is enough to scare small businesses into towing the line. Karens & soyboys are often filled with vengence & feel good about doing this.

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Quick history:

Social credit wasn't thought up yesterday. China was testing 'sesame credit' as early as ~2009. The 'Rofschild' guy was hinting at this in 2011-2012 (RVF thread), & the Canada150 Capital & Debt webpage openly talked about social credit in 2017 (Link). Communitarianism is way before my time. Forum members Grow Bag & NoMoreTO have posts on it in the Great Reset thread & YouTube has educational vids that will give a good rundown.


Post getting long:

Communitarianism itself isn't bad. It's about harmony & is great on a voluntary & small scale. E.g. common goals in a sports club or this forum. Where it goes wrong is when it is no longer voluntary (society wide) & when the 'club rules' are set by maniacs that hate you.

I think the people that make it out of this are the ones that can understand their desires, develop healthy friendships, & thoroughly seek God. You need to understand very thoroughly what the world is offering & what you can do to replace it. Superficially, the world may offer a restaurant dinner, but a closer look can break this into different motivations. Did you want the meal? Try take out. The time with friends? Don't need a restaurant for that. We may have to change things up, but we don't have to suffer. I can tell you that adaptability will be the most important trait going forward.

For friendships, having people you can rely on is more crucial than ever. The "economy" isn't it's own thing. It's just a bunch of people providing value to each other. "Three people working together can do more than twenty marching to their own beat" - Anthony Sutton. Maybe you're a mean cook. That's like an exclusive restaurant right there (for your friends). Lastly, if things get hairy you'll want cats that have your back. Near all my friends got vaxxed, so this is an area I need to work on. Likely the toughest area, but this forum has good suggestions about this.

Post getting long, need sleep. Psalms 91 (Link) keeps me chilled out. "Ten thousand may fall at your right hand, but it will not come near to you."
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird

A friend of mine last year booked a cottage/chalet up near some little ski hill to relax with his family, get some time out of the city, get some exercise and of course - avoid the lockdowns. He couldn't ski, lockdowns. I remember listening to him and some buddies in the chat group trying to figure out why or how this could be, the law seemed so insane.

But the law makes perfect sense looking at this. To enforce vax pass, you need lockdown and mask mandates first, to set the table.
 

Garuda

Kingfisher
The Netherlands just announced a passport.


The government will announce that COVID passports will be mandatory for sports venues and so-called "high-flow" spaces, such as amusement parks and museums, from Friday onwards. Face coverings will also become mandatory for public spaces and contact professions, and the government will urge people to work from home at least part-time.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
The Netherlands just announced a passport.

This was phase 1, next week friday they'll anounce vaccine passport for the workplace and presumably not long after only the vaccine will be enough to get a QR, testing won't be valid anymore. These are the things they're working on in law now and have introduced over the last days in the media and their press conference, so it's coming. Still 15% standing though, I hope 10% will stand with gritty teeth, from that point on it's illegal for you to go to any public space outside the supermarket, as this will also count for all non essential stores, which is everything besides food/drink places. I think it is because the group that knows what's up and resists is bigger than they want. And listen to this punchline: they said they ''hope to CONVINCE half of the 15% to take the vaccine by these measures''. CONVINCE, by making it impossible to go to any shop besides the supermarket. Pretty convincing convincing strategy isn't it.
 
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