COVID Passport thread

‘Cloak and dagger’ military-intelligence outfit at center of US digital vaccine passport push​

Described as “the most important organization you’ve never heard of,” MITRE rakes in massive security state contracts to pioneer invasive spy tech. Now it’s at the heart of a campaign to implement digital vaccine passports.​

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While vaccine passports have been marketed as a boon to public health, promising safety, privacy, and convenience for those who have been vaccinated against Covid-19, the pivotal role a shadowy military-intelligence organization is playing in the push to implement the system in digital form has raised serious civil liberties concerns.
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"Corona-passports" are back on the menu in Norway. They are sowing the seeds in mainstream media.

How would people on here react to an employer requiring this?

My line in the sand is using this to enter grocery shops and in private, but I am unsure if I would/should accept such a thing at work.
 
''2 week'' lockdown haha. Followed by ''2g'', testing won't be sufficient anymore. Good, bring it on Satan and show all your cards.

nltimes.nl

Outbreak team wants 2-week lockdown to stop Covid infections: report

The Outbreak Management Team advised the Cabinet to implement "lockdown-like" measures for two weeks to decrease coronavirus infections. Due to the severity of the situation, this cannot be avoided, sources around the OMT told NOS.
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Greece and Bulgaria are feuding over who is responsible for a passport scandal.

The Greeks say Bulgaria ran an operation where people could get a passport for 300 Euros.

https://www-tovima-gr.translate.goo...auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nui

According to the testimony of a "mediator" shown on the show "From Six", from the investigation of journalist Nia Avdelli, with just 300 euros and a short visit to Sofia, one can obtain a European Vaccination Certificate.

However, the officials from the Greek side emphasize that the vaccinations of Greeks (permanent residents of our country), who appear to have been done abroad, namely in Bulgaria and Romania, have come under the microscope. Under the recent amendment of the Ministry of Health, there is a provision for serious criminal and financial sanctions against illegal acts related to tests and vaccines.
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The Bulgarians say they had nothing to do with it as it was entirely a Greek operation.

https://novini-bg.translate.goog/sv...auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nui

According to media reports in our southern neighbor, between 100 and 200 medical centers in the country take bribes to inject sterile water into the bodies of those who do not want to be immunized against COVID-19, but want to receive a green certificate to can attend various entertainment and cultural events. But what many of those who do not want to get the real vaccine do not know is that once they give a bribe of about 400 euros, some of the doctors still actually inject them with a real drug against coronavirus, informs the media Keep Talking Greece. Otherwise, according to To Vima, between 200 and 300 doctors and nurses participated in the criminal scheme with fictitious immunizations. The publication estimates that at least 10,000 Greeks have obtained a green certificate in this way.
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Zagor said:
Yeah apparently after january 1st I won’t be allowed to go to the doctor, the police, any educational facility, any government office and most likely any entertainment venue.
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Damn, I thought the president there was pretty against vax passports from a clip I watched, what happened?
 
The following rather well balanced article in one of the UK mainstream papers (the link is from an Australian website).

The absurd theatre of vaccine passports​

Lionel Shriver

In August, Public Health England released data which shows that vaccination does not appreciably guard against Covid infection and transmission and protection worked out at around 17 per cent for the over-fifties. As I observed then, this would mean the vaxxed and unvaxxed pose a comparable danger to each other. All Covid apartheid schemes are therefore insensible.

Fresher information has fortified this conclusion of the summer. In every age group over 30 in the UK, the rates of Covid infection per 100,000 are now higher among the vaxxed than the unvaxxed. Indeed, in the cohorts aged between 40 and 79, infection rates among the vaccinated are more than twice as high as among the unvaccinated. PHE’s fruitlessly rechristened body, the UK Health Security Agency, frantically clarifies that the data ‘should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness’, a caveat which I include for the sake of accuracy. But the differences in the infection rates are drastic enough for you to draw your own conclusions.

As for the comparative contagiousness of each group, the data is mixed. A study published in Nature early last month confirmed PHE’s finding that the Covid-positive vaxxed and unvaxxed carry nearly identical viral loads; hence they should be similarly infectious. But viral load turns out to drop more quickly in the vaccinated, making them infectious for a shorter period. The study shows that ‘people who become infected with the Delta variant are less likely to pass the virus to their close contacts if they have already had a Covid-19 vaccine than if they haven’t’.

That’s the good news. Now for Nature’s bad news: ‘But that protective effect is relatively small, and dwindles alarmingly at three months after the receipt of the second shot… Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time.’ Three months after vaccination, your chances of passing on the Delta variant are ‘on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus’.

Mercifully, the vaccines’ protection from hospitalisation and death is slumping slowly and remains considerable. Stress on healthcare systems and excess deaths are the only reasons Covid is a concern of government.

All this information is in the public domain. Yet due to doublethink, idiocy, mulishness, duplicity, derangement or all of the above, policy-makers are refusing to act on its implications. The absurd theatre of vaccine passports in continental Europe is worse than pointless. Gatekeeping of pleasure palaces promotes the wrong impression — statistically, the lie — that the unvaccinated riff-raff exiled to the pavement pose a far graver threat of communicable disease than the diners in the nearby banquette who, like you, have righteously got the shot. In truth, the double-jabbed airline passenger in 24A can be just as risky a seat-mate as the great unwashed banished from the flight.

Officialdom’s stubborn refusal to register that vaccination does not rule out Covid infection or transmission has catastrophic consequences. As England’s adult social care sector has more than 100,000 vacancies already, the compulsory sacking of unvaxxed care-home staff could close up to 500 facilities that the nation can’t afford to lose. A vaccine mandate for NHS employees will likewise lead to significant staff attrition, when the service also suffers from about 100,000 unfilled jobs.

Stopped for now by the courts, Joe Biden has bullied on with his edict that all American businesses with 100 or more employees require their whole workforce to be vaccinated, or submit to onerous weekly testing, with a whopping $14,000 fine per unvaxxed hire. Austria has just implemented a lockdown for its entire unvaccinated population of two million. Already barred from restaurants, hair salons and cinemas, now these poor pariahs can barely leave the house.

The myth of ultra-contagious anti-vaxxers dispersing plague like rats in the Middle Ages has fostered gratuitous rancour and division. A friend in New York declared recently that she hoped all the unvaccinated would simply die.

By spearheading the vaccine drives, governments have attached themselves to a product. They’re implicitly in league with the pharmaceutical industry, not by means of a conspiracy, but because of perceived common interest. Successful vaccine? Successful government. The mainstream media and swaths of the medical establishment have also attached themselves to the product. All these parties are in cahoots to maintain a Manichean social partition: you must be all in, or you’re all against. Any appreciation for the risks or limits of vaccines casts you as a dreaded anti-vaxxer. So any feel for nuance makes you stupid. Any short-of-fanatical devotion to the perfect benevolence of vaccines makes you crazy.

Yet the product is a bit of a disappointment. It reduces death and hospitalisation, but can’t stop Covid from spreading. The virus continues merrily to sweep through heavily vaccinated populations. What we have here, then, is an advertising problem. The purveyors of products are inclined to overpromise. Adverts for a hair-loss treatment tend to boast not ‘Stimulates some minor follicular growth’, but rather ‘Cures balding!’ Having oversold their adopted elixir, governments won’t retreat from the cures-balding pitch. ‘Won’t keep you from getting sick or even from making other people sick, but prevents dying a lot of the time!’ makes for a lukewarm slogan.

I’m double-vaccinated — gladly so, on balance. But I’ve no fear of vaccine virgins. As the medical case for shunning the unvaccinated is unconvincing, vax passports and employment mandates function purely as blackmail. As a judge decreed when staying Biden’s edict: ‘The mandate’s true purpose is not to enhance workplace safety, but instead to ramp up vaccine uptake by any means necessary.’

Much western public health policy is now irrational. Governments need to detach from the product. Instead, they’ve detached from the facts.
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I've got a hunch that businesses that subscribe to this kind of thing (in the USA) are aiming for it to be a socially acceptable way to gentrify their clientele. The cities most enthusiastic about this also happen to be global capitols for brazen retail theft, and are now terrorized by blacks.

They're hoping filter out the riff-raff that's the most likely menace the place in some way by hiding behind local health statutes so they don't end up getting sued or threatened afterwards.

Judging by that silly luxury brand department store getting emptied by an eighty man strong black flash mob in SF just recently, I don't think the strategy is going to work...
 
Viktor Zeegelaar said:
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I can't believe that poll. Only 50-60% of the country got inoculated under their own free will without coercion, the 10-20% who have since been inoculated did so under duress, as their jobs were threatened. So how do more people support mandating it for children than the percentage of people who voluntarily got it themselves? There would even be a certain amount of people who voluntarily got it themselves who would be against mandating it for children. It does not add up.

Edit: I see it is Canada now. That explains it.
 
DenizenJane said:
I've got a hunch that businesses that subscribe to this kind of thing (in the USA) are aiming for it to be a socially acceptable way to gentrify their clientele. The cities most enthusiastic about this also happen to be global capitols for brazen retail theft, and are now terrorized by blacks.

They're hoping filter out the riff-raff that's the most likely menace the place in some way by hiding behind local health statutes so they don't end up getting sued or threatened afterwards.

Judging by that silly luxury brand department store getting emptied by an eighty man strong black flash mob in SF just recently, I don't think the strategy is going to work...
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Exactly, these gangs have become extremely well organized. It’s a carefully coordinated smash and grab operation involving dozens of people and by the time police show up (if they show up), they’re long gone. Best case, the police make a few symbolic arrests, and the Soros DAs let the criminals off the hook with little or no charges.

The brazen nature of the lootings of the past few days is a direct consequence of soft crime laws and the refusal to prosecute the offenders. The criminals know they can do whatever they want in these blue districts. I have zero sympathy for the stores being looted or the people who are living in these increasingly crime infested hellholes. They deserve it because they voted for it. They’re the same leftist scum complaining about the Rittenhouse verdict on their Twitter feeds.
 
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